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Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Apr 13 @ 7:12 PM ET
hellloo you loveable bastards!
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Apr 13 @ 7:15 PM ET
https://youtu.be/atXxUdqayS8


https://youtu.be/ntmglWLYhaY


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Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Apr 13 @ 7:15 PM ET
They're not paying Danault 6.8 million dollars my good friend, that's straight up insanity, 3 million dollar raise my ass!

Tatar will go from 4.8 to 5.5
Danault from 3.8 to 5.5

That's 2.4 million in raises.. Lehkonen's salary!

- obie


You also have to plan ahead for KK and Suzuki’s raises...Romanov... you can’t be up against the cap at all times...
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Apr 13 @ 7:17 PM ET
I really hope Buffalo beats Hall and Boston tonight lol
1-0 so far they scored on their first shot and Bjork got an assist...you can’t make this stuff up lol
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Apr 13 @ 7:17 PM ET
Danault is making 3.8M? I thought he was making 3M.
so yes, let say 2..4M in raise for both, that's even easier to find.
replace Lek and Armia by Poehling and Caufield and there you go.

- fidopro


Also 3 million raise to Gallagher, half a million more to Petry and a new Kotkaniemi deal... but 2 million extra in savings on the Alzner buyout, 1.5 less to Allen and Seattle will pick money off the roster
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Apr 13 @ 7:18 PM ET
Also 3 million raise to Gallagher, half and million more to Petry and a new Kotkaniemi deal... but 2 million extra in savings on the Alzner buyout, 1.5 less to Allen and Seattle will pick money off the roster
- obie


I don’t think they want to bring Primeau up to be Price’s back-up yet...
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Apr 13 @ 7:18 PM ET
You also have to plan ahead for KK and Suzuki’s raises...Romanov... you can’t be up against the cap at all times...
- Karine Hains

you can. you just have be willing to take a ball bat to someone's knees. or push em down the stairs.

when khabby was in his last year with the hawks and playing terrible. he "fell" down a flight of stairs and was never seen or heard from again. its like he got caught in a star trek time continumum.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Apr 13 @ 7:19 PM ET
I really hope Buffalo beats Hall and Boston tonight lol
1-0 so far they scored on their first shot and Bjork got an assist...you can’t make this stuff up lol

- Karine Hains

i kinda hope hall gets injured. nothing serious. just enough to miss the rest of the season.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Apr 13 @ 7:20 PM ET
you can. you just have be willing to take a ball bat to someone's knees. or push em down the stairs.

when khabby was in his last year with the hawks and playing terrible. he "fell" down a flight of stairs and was never seen or heard from again. its like he got caught in a star trek time continumum.

- Gramps28

Or they can become allergic to their equipment after playing 10+ years in the NHL alone.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Apr 13 @ 7:20 PM ET
You also have to plan ahead for KK and Suzuki’s raises...Romanov... you can’t be up against the cap at all times...
- Karine Hains


By that time the Drouin and Byron deals will have expired along with Chiarot or Edmundson, whichever Seattle doesn't pick... also Allen will expire around that time too... as long as he doesn't hand out 8 million + deals, he'll be able to keep his depth
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Apr 13 @ 7:21 PM ET
I don’t think they want to bring Primeau up to be Price’s back-up yet...
- Karine Hains


They won't but Allen re-signed for 1.5 less than he's making this year
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Apr 13 @ 7:22 PM ET
Or they can become allergic to their equipment after playing 10+ years in the NHL alone.
- apex123

nah. that poop was real. he was given days off for a few seasons because of the pain. not that anyone cares but he hung them up because of the meds and their long term effects on his health after having 2 small kids at home.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Apr 13 @ 7:24 PM ET
nah. that poop was real. he was given days off for a few seasons because of the pain. not that anyone cares but he hung them up because of the meds and their long term effects on his health after having 2 small kids at home.
- Gramps28


Guy was a beauty... thought Ottawa got robbed from day 1 when they traded him, sure Heatley scored 50 a couple times for them but Hossa was the complete package
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Apr 13 @ 7:30 PM ET
nah. that poop was real. he was given days off for a few seasons because of the pain. not that anyone cares but he hung them up because of the meds and their long term effects on his health after having 2 small kids at home.
- Gramps28

I don't know. The cited reason was the allergy, I didn't see anything said about adverse reactions to medications. If he went his whole career with that allergy that's pretty damn impressive he put up elite numbers despite it. He certainly didn't develop an allergy in his 30s to something he was exposed to his whole life before that, the timing seemed very suspicious at best.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Apr 13 @ 7:30 PM ET
Guy was a beauty... thought Ottawa got robbed from day 1 when they traded him, sure Heatley scored 50 a couple times for them but Hossa was the complete package
- obie

He definitely was. Used to love when someone made him mad. guys would just bounce off him all over the ice. he backchecked like someone stole his mom's purse and called her a dirty, rotten whore at the same time.

so glad the bowmans stepped in and stopped tallon from re-signing havlat in favor of hoss.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Apr 13 @ 7:31 PM ET
I don't know. The cited reason was the allergy, I didn't see anything said about adverse reactions to medications. If he went his whole career with that allergy that's pretty damn impressive he put up elite numbers despite it. He certainly didn't develop an allergy in his 30s to something he was exposed to his whole life before that, the timing seemed very suspicious at best.
- apex123

they've also advanced the liner in equipment too. Could be the chemicals they put in them to not absorb sweat
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Apr 13 @ 7:33 PM ET
I don't know. The cited reason was the allergy, I didn't see anything said about adverse reactions to medications. If he went his whole career with that allergy that's pretty damn impressive he put up elite numbers despite it. He certainly didn't develop an allergy in his 30s to something he was exposed to his whole life before that, the timing seemed very suspicious at best.
- apex123

nope. it was the meds. there were a quite a few stories locally when he retired. i think it started in his last 4 seasons or so when his equipment changed.

he wasn't the player he was when he was younger but he still 20-50 guy. yeah, the timing was always gonna be wonky.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Apr 13 @ 7:35 PM ET
He definitely was. Used to love when someone made him mad. guys would just bounce off him all over the ice. he backchecked like someone stole his mom's purse and called her a dirty, rotten whore at the same time.

so glad the bowmans stepped in and stopped tallon from re-signing havlat in favor of hoss.

- Gramps28



Real glad he finally got those cups in the end... and yeah, I'd take Hossa over 2 Havlats
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Apr 13 @ 7:35 PM ET
nope. it was the meds. there were a quite a few stories locally when he retired. i think it started in his last 4 seasons or so when his equipment changed.

he wasn't the player he was when he was younger but he still 20-50 guy. yeah, the timing was always gonna be wonky.

- Gramps28

Fair enough, I just wonder why they couldn't revert the equipment material or alter it slightly if they knew the cause.
Though I guess it was med related anyway it wouldn't have stopped him from leaving.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Apr 13 @ 7:36 PM ET
they've also advanced the liner in equipment too. Could be the chemicals they put in them to not absorb sweat
- mr.peanut

it was something along those line. he used to get quite a few maintenance days off his last 2-3 years. it was always a mystery. also would miss a game occasionally.

fwiw, the stories from his teammates that came out after would tell of him having welts on parts of his body. whether its true or not, who knows.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Apr 13 @ 7:37 PM ET
Real glad he finally got those cups in the end... and yeah, I'd take Hossa over 2 Havlats
- obie

havlat did play well for the hawks but no way he brings everything hoss did on the ice.
he was fun to watch just when he backchecking.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Apr 13 @ 7:41 PM ET
By that time the Drouin and Byron deals will have expired along with Chiarot or Edmundson, whichever Seattle doesn't pick... also Allen will expire around that time too... as long as he doesn't hand out 8 million + deals, he'll be able to keep his depth
- obie


Drouin contract expires in two years, Suzuki needs contract this off season and KK needs one the year after if I read it right , so timing doesn’t align
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Apr 13 @ 7:44 PM ET
I don’t think they want to bring Primeau up to be Price’s back-up yet...
- Karine Hains


I think he has had enough time in Laval time to bring him up I think especially if we lose Allen to Seattle
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Apr 13 @ 7:47 PM ET
Drouin contract expires in two years, Suzuki needs contract this off season and KK needs one the year after if I read it right , so timing doesn’t align
- habs88888


Other way around with Suzuki and Kotkaniemi deals, KK is up after this season


And they're gonna get bridge deals
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Apr 13 @ 7:50 PM ET
Other way around with Suzuki and Kotkaniemi deals, KK is up after this season


And they're gonna get bridge deals

- obie

rightfully so
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