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PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Apr 13 @ 5:33 PM ET
Are your eyes open?
- MJL

Eyes wide shut. So you think he’s as good as gone?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 13 @ 5:34 PM ET
Whom am I trading it to? The people who will do the trade are likely a top 10 club. That means I am getting 3 players outside top 20 odd for Couts?

No. We can do better I think.

- PT21

ha. to be fair you are the one i would think who would have been most likely to jump on that, but yes you're reading the hypo as i meant it. it avoids signing him to a deal which you dont want to do, and it gives you more draft ammo. (while likely increasing the odds that the flyers own pick is high).

I do think pretty highly of coots, but it might be tough to get much much more with the next contract on the horizon.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 5:35 PM ET
Eyes wide shut. So you think he’s as good as gone?
- PhillaBully


Giroux will be protected. If he wasn't, Seattle would take him in a heartbeat.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 13 @ 5:36 PM ET
Bill if giroux wasn’t protected do you think the kraken would swoop him up? I see no risk due too contract

Huge giroux fan btw

- PhillaBully


He has a NMC so he is required to be protected. But the Flyers currently have space for everyone they want to protect.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 13 @ 5:37 PM ET
Farabee is still exempt. Second year pro.

Forwards: Giroux, Hayes, Couturier, TK, Laughton, Lindblom, Patrick.

Defensemen: Provorov, Sanheim (QO), Myers.

Goalie: Hart.

Exposed: Voracek, JVR, Aube-Kubel, Gostisbehere, Braun, Sandström (QO).

UFA: Elliott.

- bmeltzer


Approved.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 13 @ 5:37 PM ET
Anyone else at least excited to see a fight?
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 13 @ 5:41 PM ET
Are your eyes open? If flyers win this they are back in the race 100%
- MJL

🧐
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:43 PM ET
What do you know. Myers healthy scratch again.

Tough d core to crack.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:44 PM ET
Anyone else at least excited to see a fight?
- Peter Richards


Have to think Morin knocks Wilson out with one punch tonight. That would be my prediction.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:46 PM ET
ha. to be fair you are the one i would think who would have been most likely to jump on that, but yes you're reading the hypo as i meant it. it avoids signing him to a deal which you dont want to do, and it gives you more draft ammo. (while likely increasing the odds that the flyers own pick is high).

I do think pretty highly of coots, but it might be tough to get much much more with the next contract on the horizon.

- stayinthefnnet


Yeah, I know. But I would try to be a bit more targeted.

Lets say Tampa loses to Avs. Stamkos injured again. TB sees window starting to close.

Can we pry Cirelli from them, and they trade Stamkos in the off season with money withheld?

Something akin to that.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Apr 13 @ 5:50 PM ET
Have to think Morin knocks Wilson out with one punch tonight. That would be my prediction.
- PLindbergh31

Wilson will be laughing as Morin chases him around all night. LAvy will drool over that match up.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Apr 13 @ 5:53 PM ET
If you think he is dense just for that bit of confusion, you must pay scant attention to this board.
- PT21

You would know Sheldon.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 13 @ 5:56 PM ET
Yeah, I know. But I would try to be a bit more targeted.

Lets say Tampa loses to Avs. Stamkos injured again. TB sees window starting to close.

Can we pry Cirelli from them, and they trade Stamkos in the off season with money withheld?

Something akin to that.

- PT21

true, but then that creates a potential cap problem for them to resign him. i can see coots fitting on ice with any team, but you would think a team willing to fork over some assets wants to resign him.

of course its harder to name players/teams so i always am interested to see who people throw out. that being said, i think the 90 percent odds on likelihood is the flyers resign him for something like 7 years 8 mil a pop.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:56 PM ET
You are under my skin? Love to hear that explanation. Not a huge point; it is rather simple. Figure it out.

Any thoughts on another black man getting snuffed out by the po po?
- login

You are the biggest piece of poop (frank)ing coward ive come across in a long time. I hope somebody smashes your face in
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 13 @ 5:57 PM ET
Have to think Morin knocks Wilson out with one punch tonight. That would be my prediction.
- PLindbergh31

he does that and the flyers can have a discount on having carts back
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:57 PM ET
true, but then that creates a potential cap problem for them to resign him. i can see coots fitting on ice with any team, but you would think a team willing to fork over some assets wants to resign him.

of course its harder to name players/teams so i always am interested to see who people throw out. that being said, i think the 90 percent odds on likelihood is the flyers resign him for something like 7 years 8 mil a pop.

- stayinthefnnet


No, no.

Cirelli + Stamkos would more than clear space. That is why I mentioned that. Cirelli is signed for 4-5 mil odd, iirc. Bridge deal.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 13 @ 5:58 PM ET
No, no.

Cirelli + Stamkos would more than clear space. That is why I mentioned that. Cirelli is signed for 4-5 mil odd, iirc. Bridge deal.

- PT21

oh gotcha, you were assuming stamkos is full on gone. makes sense now.

you value cirelli a good deal?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:59 PM ET
You are under my skin? Love to hear that explanation. Not a huge point; it is rather simple. Figure it out.

Any thoughts on another black man getting snuffed out by the po po?
- login

You are the biggest piece of poop (frank)ing coward ive come across in a long time. I hope somebody smashes your face in

- KINGKENZO


EEEK!!!

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 5:59 PM ET
Yeah, I know. But I would try to be a bit more targeted.

Lets say Tampa loses to Avs. Stamkos injured again. TB sees window starting to close.

Can we pry Cirelli from them, and they trade Stamkos in the off season with money withheld?

Something akin to that.

- PT21


Would have to get a much better player back than Cirelli as the center piece to trade Couturier if that is what you're implying.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Apr 13 @ 5:59 PM ET
He has a NMC so he is required to be protected. But the Flyers currently have space for everyone they want to protect.
- bmeltzer

Any chance fletcher has the cajones and cap room to go after Jones? You think York makes the team next year? I don’t know where I read this, or if remember it accurately but doesn’t Jones have ties to Philly? I think the thing slowing this team down is not being able to move the puck out of the zone. Jones and York might help out in that department
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Apr 13 @ 6:00 PM ET
You are under my skin? Love to hear that explanation. Not a huge point; it is rather simple. Figure it out.

Any thoughts on another black man getting snuffed out by the po po?
- login

You are the biggest piece of poop (frank)ing coward ive come across in a long time. I hope somebody smashes your face in

- KINGKENZO

be a leader.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:00 PM ET
oh gotcha, you were assuming stamkos is full on gone. makes sense now.

you value cirelli a good deal?

- stayinthefnnet


Yeah, for sure, for what my assessment is worth (which is not that much ).

But imo, he may never get to Couts level but he should be worth a couple of Selke finalist short lists.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 13 @ 6:01 PM ET
You are the biggest piece of poop (frank)ing coward ive come across in a long time. I hope somebody smashes your face in
- KINGKENZO


Not a lot of normal people left here it seems.

The trouble makers have taken over.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:03 PM ET
be a leader.
- login


Reported

This was addressed to black member of our board. This piece of poop constantly harasses a selected target and makes personal attacks and suggestive posts against other posters family members. He is a habitual line crosser and repeat offender on his 4-5th account. I cant believe you havent banned him by his IP....get it the (frank) together
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 13 @ 6:04 PM ET
Would have to get a much better player back than Cirelli as the center piece to trade Couturier if that is what you're implying.
- MJL

well i would assume your preference would be to resign him and have part of the solution moving forward. you dont strike me as the complete tear down model so that would require obviously the sort of deal you cant refuse to move.

if youre of the mindset of completely dropping the etch a sketch, i dont think thats a horrible starting point for negotiations from the other side when you consider the type of team that would be interested in the that kind of deal and then have to resign him.
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