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SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Apr 13 @ 2:41 PM ET
i have to say i am quite pleased with Stan's work yesterday. Can't wait to see the Leafs blow the wad again and not make it to the dance!
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 13 @ 2:41 PM ET
Thanks good read. I was browsing some of their fan base comments and it sounds like he has offense, but not good defensively or on face offs. If his health issues are resolved and he can put on about 11 KG’s (for our north of the border friends), maybe he will be more willing to engage defensively. I like this trade, heck I would have taken a bag of pucks for Highmore. This is a no risk maybe good reward trade, time will tell. Feed that boy some midwestern steaks and have him hit the weight room.
- Angotti


Uh oh he sounds like another forward on this team
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
i have to say i am quite pleased with Stan's work yesterday. Can't wait to see the Leafs blow the wad again and not make it to the dance!
- SaskHawkFan

(frank)ing stupid leaves have needed defensemen for four years and as usual go shopping for forwards.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Apr 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
Same reason as the Oilers moving Drasiatl to wing from center, I think he is way better being a north/south power player than east/west more edge work type of player
- LAHawk


Drasiatl had one of his best years playing center with McDavid out. Don't think that holds a lot of water.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Apr 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
I see your point, Dach isn’t as finished at his position as say Toews was at 20. However where the Hawks at that time needed Toews to be a center man right away this team can wait to see if Dach can grow into the position. There’s plenty of time to move him to wing but when that happens it’s likely he’ll never get the opportunity to go back to center.

This is a big reason why I really dislike moving an 18 or 19 year old straight to the NHL. Yes, Dach had a decent rookie season but I believe he should have stayed in junior another year to fully learn his game and position. Also in junior he becomes and learns leadership skills and has an opportunity to learn to win on his junior team and possibly as a member of the WJC team. And while there are players who can make the jump as an 18 year old, some players need additional time in junior/college/minors before they are ready to play in the NHL.

- paulr


That's part of the goofy junior AHL NHL rules where he would have to play in the NHL or go back to bossing children.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Apr 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
I'm apparently only able to make comparisons to Hoss as per instruction from the resident troll from GP, AB.
- HawkintheD

I never said you're only able to make that comparison, only that you do it all the time. Then complain about when it gets commented on. You're such a baby.
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Apr 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
Well he's not a know it all bumhole like you, so there's that
- GPHawksfan

You certainly don't do well with sarcasm
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Apr 13 @ 2:50 PM ET
I never said you're only able to make that comparison, only that you do it all the time. Then complain about when it gets commented on. You're such a baby.
- GPHawksfan


give it a rest...go back under the bridge
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Apr 13 @ 3:03 PM ET
I never said you're only able to make that comparison, only that you do it all the time. Then complain about when it gets commented on. You're such a baby.
- GPHawksfan

You’re funny.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 13 @ 3:05 PM ET
You certainly don't do well with sarcasm
- NamedSources

I think GP puts to rest the fallacy that all Canadians are nice and polite.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Apr 13 @ 3:11 PM ET
Listed again, the assets that arrived and the assets that deprated. Not too shabby overall.

IN

2021 4th VAN

2021 2nd VGK
2022 3rd VGK

D*ckinson
Rolston

Gaudette

Connolly
Borgstrom
Stillman
2021 7th FLA

Hinostroza

OUT

Bowey
2021 5th CHI

Janmark
2022 5th CHI

Soderberg

Highmore

Wallmark
Carlsson

Morrison
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 13 @ 3:12 PM ET
(frank)ing stupid leaves have needed defensemen for four years and as usual go shopping for forwards.
- paulr


Hmmmm would you say that's a gm who doesn't know what he's doing?
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 13 @ 3:14 PM ET
Listed again, the assets that arrived and the assets that deprated. Not too shabby overall.

IN

2021 4th VAN

2021 2nd VGK we
2022 3rd VGK

D*ckinson
Rolston

Gaudette

Connolly
Borgstrom
Stillman
2021 7th FLA

Hinostroza

OUT

Bowey
2021 5th CHI

Janmark
2022 5th CHI

Soderberg

Highmore

Wallmark
Carlsson

Morrison

- 333inthe3rd

Morrison was not going to set the world on 🔥.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 13 @ 3:19 PM ET
Roslovic was 20% at the dot last night, ouch

Dach might of not played his best game last night but he competed. Kid goes to the boards, to the front of the net, hustles back on defense.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 13 @ 3:20 PM ET
Hmmmm would you say that's a gm who doesn't know what he's doing?
- BetweenTheDots


No I’d say it’s a GM who’s trying to mimic the 80s Oilers. As much as it pains me to say he’s done some very good things. Now I hope he’s made a mistake. Unlike you, I I know all I’m capable of is flipping burgers and that every NHL GM has forgotten more about hockey than I know.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 13 @ 3:21 PM ET
When Laine scored coast to coast Dach was right there and it seemed like he handed him off to deHaan, well we know the rest.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 13 @ 3:29 PM ET
I think GP puts to rest the fallacy that all Canadians are nice and polite.
- paulr


#boyfriendposse
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 13 @ 3:30 PM ET
When Laine scored coast to coast Dach was right there and it seemed like he handed him off to deHaan, well we know the rest.
- BetweenTheDots

Why was DeHaan beaten so easily? As usual you focus on one small part of the play and not the whole play. First of all sometimes you have to give credit for a great play. However there is almost always a mistake even when a great play occurred.

I’ll again challenge you, though you seldom respond to challenges.

Why was DeHaan caught flat footed?

Why was DeHaan not closing the gap on Laine?

Answer those questions and you find the mistake.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 13 @ 3:32 PM ET
#boyfriendposse
- mohel

#hero
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 13 @ 3:32 PM ET
Listed again, the assets that arrived and the assets that deprated. Not too shabby overall.

IN

2021 4th VAN

2021 2nd VGK
2022 3rd VGK

D*ckinson
Rolston

Gaudette

Connolly
Borgstrom
Stillman
2021 7th FLA

Hinostroza

OUT

Bowey
2021 5th CHI

Janmark
2022 5th CHI

Soderberg

Highmore

Wallmark
Carlsson

Morrison

- 333inthe3rd


None of the outgoing players would have been on the team next year except maybe Carlsson. If he survived the expansion draft he would have been the 7-8-9 defenseman, more or less an injury call-up.

Those extra draft choices are 3 to 5 years away if they contribute at all. Could also use them to sweeten a future deal, or package them to move up in the draft.

Connolly (if Seattle doesn't select him), Gaudette, Stillman, maybe Borgstrom can contribute next year. Who knows about the Rolston kid. He probably at least 3 years away. Can always re-flip the 1st three the next year or two for other assets.

Good overall TDL returns.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 13 @ 3:35 PM ET
Thanks good read. I was browsing some of their fan base comments and it sounds like he has offense, but not good defensively or on face offs. If his health issues are resolved and he can put on about 11 KG’s (for our north of the border friends), maybe he will be more willing to engage defensively. I like this trade, heck I would have taken a bag of pucks for Highmore. This is a no risk maybe good reward trade, time will tell. Feed that boy some midwestern steaks and have him hit the weight room.
- Angotti

Or 1 stone, 10 lb and 4.0136 oz for our UK friends.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Apr 13 @ 3:42 PM ET
None of the outgoing players would have been on the team next year except maybe Carlsson. If he survived the expansion draft he would have been the 7-8-9 defenseman, more or less an injury call-up.

Those extra draft choices are 3 to 5 years away if they contribute at all. Could also use them to sweeten a future deal, or package them to move up in the draft.

Connolly (if Seattle doesn't select him), Gaudette, Stillman, maybe Borgstrom can contribute next year. Who knows about the Rolston kid. He probably at least 3 years away. Can always re-flip the 1st three the next year or two for other assets.

Good overall TDL returns.

- boilermaker100


I liked that the Hawks were able to add some decent picks and viable prospects without giving away a chance at a playoff spot this year. I have seen some characterize the Hawks as sellers at this deadline, and that wasn't really the case.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 13 @ 3:59 PM ET
Why was DeHaan beaten so easily? As usual you focus on one small part of the play and not the whole play. First of all sometimes you have to give credit for a great play. However there is almost always a mistake even when a great play occurred.

I’ll again challenge you, though you seldom respond to challenges.

Why was DeHaan caught flat footed?

Why was DeHaan not closing the gap on Laine?

Answer those questions and you find the mistake.

- paulr


In no way am I defending deHaan, because he has been generally brutal this season, but....... He wasn't expected to play because of the hip pointer and he "gutted it out" according to JC and others. Because of the injury he was less mobile (which is saying something given the baseline) and got beat.

Excuse or not, even at 100% deHaan probably gets walked by Laine 7 out of 10 times, this just made it even more likely.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Apr 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
I never said you're only able to make that comparison, only that you do it all the time. Then complain about when it gets commented on. You're such a baby.
- GPHawksfan


You okay today champ? Seem a little out of sorts. Mommy forget to leave you a juicebox and cookie when she ran out the door to work? Poor little guy.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
In no way am I defending deHaan, because he has been generally brutal this season, but....... He wasn't expected to play because of the hip pointer and he "gutted it out" according to JC and others. Because of the injury he was less mobile (which is saying something given the baseline) and got beat.

Excuse or not, even at 100% deHaan probably gets walked by Laine 7 out of 10 times, this just made it even more likely.

- TheTrob

Like you I think DeHaan has been very average this season and I’m certainly no DeHaan apologist. I didn’t realize he was injured. But very few defensemen, even healthy would have had a chance in that situation. ADB gave up pursuit at the opposition blueline. Dach didn’t have a good angle because he came from the far boards plus he gave up pursuit at center. The lack of forward support from center didn’t allow the defensemen to stand up at the blueline to close the gap to Laine and instead had to backpedal furiously. While DeHaan isn’t a good defenseman he can’t be fully blamed for Laine’s incredible goal.
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