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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 13 @ 9:15 AM ET
I think Washington did great
- Feds91Stammer

I bet lol

Crazy business.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 13 @ 9:24 AM ET
I bet lol

Crazy business.

- Barnaby36

Trump would have never allowed that trade deal to go down.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 13 @ 9:28 AM ET
Since we didn’t get a left wing, if Zucker-McCann-Carter ends up looking good, I might be on the Grinder train of looking at Zohorna on Malkin’s left when Geno and Kapanen get back. I know Rodrigues did ok there for a while, but may as well see if Zohorna has any actual upside or if he’s just pulling a Marc Donk and scoring a couple goals during injury call up and then riding off into the sunset.
- Victoro311

That's what I'm thinking. Once Kap is back get him with Zohorna then get Geno centering them. Worst case scenario is Tanev might play with Geno-Kap if the other three lines are good to go. Which isn't too bad. We've seen worse.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
Trump would have never allowed that trade deal to go down.
- Feds91Stammer

I'd understand Vrana + 2nd RP for Mantha.....maybe the 1st RP instead. Big plus for Yzerman.
Btw, I read some of the exchange you had with the Wings blogger lol
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 13 @ 9:38 AM ET
That's what I'm thinking. Once Kap is back get him with Zohorna then get Geno centering them. Worst case scenario is Tanev might play with Geno-Kap if the other three lines are good to go. Which isn't too bad. We've seen worse.
- 668710


Tanev and Kap are both right wingers. I don’t know if either of them have ever played their off wing.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 13 @ 9:43 AM ET
Never gets old. Ideal world:

Rust-Crosby-Guentzel
McCann-Malkin-Kapanen
Zucker-Blueger-Carter
Tanev-Gaudreau-AstonReese

Angello-Rodrigues-Sceviour
Lafferty-Jankowski-Zohorna

I thought Gaudreau played so well with Tanev and AstonReese that we didn't need Blueger there. I'd put either to play with Zucker and Carter. It will be a good line regardless.

HEALTH is all we need.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 13 @ 9:44 AM ET
Since we didn’t get a left wing, if Zucker-McCann-Carter ends up looking good, I might be on the Grinder train of looking at Zohorna on Malkin’s left when Geno and Kapanen get back. I know Rodrigues did ok there for a while, but may as well see if Zohorna has any actual upside or if he’s just pulling a Marc Donk and scoring a couple goals during injury call up and then riding off into the sunset.
- Victoro311


Z seemed to float around a little more the last two games, but I'm sure part of that is still adjusting. I'm curious to see him next to Geno though as he could elevate his game and energy. He quietly makes good decisions with the puck, reacts quickly and keeps his game simple which I think is something that works when playing with Geno.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 13 @ 9:45 AM ET
Tanev and Kap are both right wingers. I don’t know if either of them have ever played their off wing.
- j.boyd919

Tanev is listed as a LW on Google/Wikipedia and EA Sports NHL 20 lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 13 @ 9:46 AM ET
Tanev and Kap are both right wingers. I don’t know if either of them have ever played their off wing.
- j.boyd919

Yea but Tanev is a lefty I figure he could play over on the LW and Lap stays on the RW. Just a thought.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
Tanev is listed as a LW on Google/Wikipedia and EA Sports NHL 20 lol
- Barnaby36


I stand corrected then. I guess I don’t remember him ever playing LW in Pittsburgh haha
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
Tanev is listed as a LW on Google/Wikipedia and EA Sports NHL 20 lol
- Barnaby36

He plays right wing here mostly. But being a left shot he obviously can play left wing.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 13 @ 10:01 AM ET
Yea but Tanev is a lefty I figure he could play over on the LW and Lap stays on the RW. Just a thought.
- 668710

Tanev doesn’t have enough skill for it to matter what side he plays on
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 13 @ 10:02 AM ET
I stand corrected then. I guess I don’t remember him ever playing LW in Pittsburgh haha
- j.boyd919

haha fine.

After seeing Iginla being forced to play his off wing I don't like to get into this kind of discussion anymore lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 13 @ 10:04 AM ET
Tanev doesn’t have enough skill for it to matter what side he plays on
- Feds91Stammer

I was gonna say that haha. But being a lefty it should be easy for him regardless haha.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 13 @ 10:04 AM ET
haha fine.

After seeing Iginla being forced to play his off wing I don't like to get into this kind of discussion anymore lol

- Barnaby36

This isn't Jagr, 2 completely different situations.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 13 @ 10:11 AM ET
I was gonna say that haha. But being a lefty it should be easy for him regardless haha.
- 668710

Yeah and I don’t mean that as a knock on Tanev. Dump and chase/forechecking hockey can be done from either side.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 13 @ 10:17 AM ET
Yeah and I don’t mean that as a knock on Tanev. Dump and chase/forechecking hockey can be done from either side.
- Feds91Stammer

I definitely get it for sure. And it's also not ideal for Tanev to play with Geno and Kap, but it was just a thought since all three of them are out. IF the other three lines are all playing well, don't break them up right before the playoffs.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:22 AM ET
I'd understand Vrana + 2nd RP for Mantha.....maybe the 1st RP instead. Big plus for Yzerman.
Btw, I read some of the exchange you had with the Wings blogger lol

- Barnaby36


So, not trying to spin the steep price, but Vrana + Panik cover's Mantha's contract, and then some, like 400K. The thinking is that the 1st was the very stupid price to pay to "upgrade" to Mantha over Vrana, and the 2nd was so they took Panik's contract. Cost certainty for the next 4-5 years I think weighed into it, giving the Caps more room for Ovi's next stupid ass contract.

Essentially, all in for the twilight of Ovi/Backstrom's career, into irrelevant basement dwellers again soon.

I would have a thought a package of a 1st+ Vrana would have netted a better player.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
So, not trying to spin the steep price, but Vrana + Panik cover's Mantha's contract, and then some, like 400K. The thinking is that the 1st was the very stupid price to pay to "upgrade" to Mantha over Vrana, and the 2nd was so they took Panik's contract. Cost certainty for the next 4-5 years I think weighed into it, giving the Caps more room for Ovi's next stupid ass contract.

Essentially, all in for the twilight of Ovi/Backstrom's career, into irrelevant basement dwellers again soon.

- Blackstrom2


I dunno. You guys probably could have bribed Seattle with a 2nd to take Panik off your hands, kept your 1st and Vrana. I doubt Vrana makes more than Mantha's current contract when he extends.


Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
I definitely get it for sure. And it's also not ideal for Tanev to play with Geno and Kap, but it was just a thought since all three of them are out. IF the other three lines are all playing well, don't break them up right before the playoffs.
- 668710

Ultimately I think Sully will misuse Blueger as a shut down center instead of scoring 3c.

Playoff wise I’d have ZAR - Gaudreau - Tanev stapled to the bench.

Mix in ZAR for pk and defensive situations.

Mix in Tanev for an energy spark.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 13 @ 10:29 AM ET
So, not trying to spin the steep price, but Vrana + Panik cover's Mantha's contract, and then some, like 400K. The thinking is that the 1st was the very stupid price to pay to "upgrade" to Mantha over Vrana, and the 2nd was so they took Panik's contract. Cost certainty for the next 4-5 years I think weighed into it, giving the Caps more room for Ovi's next stupid ass contract.

Essentially, all in for the twilight of Ovi/Backstrom's career, into irrelevant basement dwellers again soon.

I would have a thought a package of a 1st+ Vrana would have netted a better player.

- Blackstrom2

Don't get me wrong I'd love to see Mantha on the Pens and hate to see him going to Wash but you lost too much in Vrana/1st RP and 2nd RP. The word amongst Wings fans is that Mantha looks lazy at times and isn't exactly earning his paycheck of almost $6M per.

Ovi and Backs should take a paycut if they are serious about winning the cup again.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 13 @ 10:30 AM ET
So, not trying to spin the steep price, but Vrana + Panik cover's Mantha's contract, and then some, like 400K. The thinking is that the 1st was the very stupid price to pay to "upgrade" to Mantha over Vrana, and the 2nd was so they took Panik's contract. Cost certainty for the next 4-5 years I think weighed into it, giving the Caps more room for Ovi's next stupid ass contract.

Essentially, all in for the twilight of Ovi/Backstrom's career, into irrelevant basement dwellers again soon.

I would have a thought a package of a 1st+ Vrana would have netted a better player.

- Blackstrom2

From what I gathered. Lavi is an idiot that didn’t like Vrana and the pro for the caps is basically cost certainty.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:30 AM ET
I dunno. You guys probably could have bribed Seattle with a 2nd to take Panik off your hands, kept your 1st and Vrana. I doubt Vrana makes more than Mantha's current contract when he extends.
- Rinosaur


Lavy hated Vrana. Wasn't going to work.

Also, kind of need Seattle to take Oshie's contract.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 13 @ 10:30 AM ET
Don't get me wrong I'd love to see Mantha on the Pens and hate to see him going to Wash but you lost too much in Vrana/1st RP and 2nd RP. The word amongst Wings fans is that Mantha looks lazy at times and isn't exactly earning his paycheck of almost $6M per.

Ovi and Backs should take a paycut if they are serious about winning the cup again.

- Barnaby36

Backstrom has one of the worst contracts in the league already imo.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:31 AM ET
From what I gathered. Lavi is an idiot that didn’t like Vrana and the pro for the caps is basically cost certainty.
- Feds91Stammer


Yep.
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