who wrote this? Simmonds?

I think we are being rather picky and stubborn if we care which 6-7 D man the Leafs got. They all look relatively the same.

Benn played 14 mins a night on a horrible Nucks team...I wont knock him for it. Hes probably better than that. But they are all the same and deliver similar results. Who cares.
- Santo_44

Oh yes totally, every single guy in the league who's outside the top 6 is exactly the same. GMs basically flip coins when finding them, scouts throw darts at the draft if they're not going to be guaranteed top 6.

Teams with quality dependable options go deeper than teams who don't. That's been a point that's been reiterated in so many places I can't believe I'm taking the time to say it to you.

Its like you've never watched hockey at all and haven't seen the difference between what happens to the leafs come playoff time when they have to suit Marincin up, and the teams like Tampa and the options they had to throw in.

No, I think he starts tonight doesn’t he?
- Garnie

No...no, he isn’t. News just out. Can you pick a new goaler?

Because you have determined its a useless stat, does not make it a useless stat.

From what I've watched of Hutton, he can be sloppy at both ends of the ice. Benn is more rugged and dependable in his own end and will beat your face in if you're out of line. I prefer that game in a depth option come playoff time.
- joel878

I get the feeling that Hutton has consistently been deployed out of his depth. He's a 3rd pair guy playing too many minutes and should be protected.

I'm thinking he'll be just fine playing Dermott style minutes if and when he gets the chance.

Contractor came to the front door with a quote. Dog was going crazy, so I opened the garage door to speak to him. A Scottish guy by the way with a heavy accent. He tells me he’s late with the quote because he had a Covid test and he had to isolate for ten days... even though he tested negative. I asked if he had symptoms which urged him to get tested. “No, I came in contact with someone who has Covid”. And he’s pissy about isolating...WTF!
- Woderwick

I would be incredibly pissy if I had to isolate due to Covid.

I would do it. But I would 100% be pissy about it.

I get the feeling that Hutton has consistently been deployed out of his depth. He's a 3rd pair guy playing too many minutes and should be protected.

I'm thinking he'll be just fine playing Dermott style minutes if and when he gets the chance.
- mjones242

So he's better than Marty

No...no, he isn’t. News just out. Can you pick a new goaler?
- Woderwick

you bastard

I’m keeping him and losing proudly

I think Yzerman wins this trade based on getting a 1st and a 2nd round pick. I don't know enough about Vrana to say he's better or worse than Mantha is. Mantha has an incredible shot and a big body. When he's on his game he can't really be stopped.

Problem is that most of the time he's a floating perimeter player who doesn't work hard enough. I knew Yzerman was angry with Mantha's underwhelming game this season. He expected a big year out of Mantha after he signed him to that big contract extension.

I figured Yzerman would trade him this summer. But he obviously was given an offer he couldn't refuse. It's always if, if, if with Mantha. But the inconsistency and injuries added up to Mantha being traded.
- gergeswillems

Vrana is better than Mantha.
It's forsberg for erat bad Type of deal for washington with the 1st and 2nd rounder thrown in, and panik is a serviceable 3rd liner as well.
Fleece of the year for sure

I get the feeling that Hutton has consistently been deployed out of his depth. He's a 3rd pair guy playing too many minutes and should be protected.

I'm thinking he'll be just fine playing Dermott style minutes if and when he gets the chance.
- mjones242

Full disclosure, I'm just needling at this point. In a perfect world and we couldn't upgrade Dermott, next best thing for me would have been Benn as a #7, Merrill or Hutton as #8. I don't hate Hutton, I just have a different preference.

Happy to see some insulation before guys like Marincin and the rookies either way.

I would be incredibly pissy if I had to isolate due to Covid.

I would do it. But I would 100% be pissy about it.
- Leafs43

Pissy because I shouldn’t have to isolate, pissy?

you bastard

I’m keeping him and losing proudly
- Garnie

Lol

Contractor came to the front door with a quote. Dog was going crazy, so I opened the garage door to speak to him. A Scottish guy by the way with a heavy accent. He tells me he’s late with the quote because he had a Covid test and he had to isolate for ten days... even though he tested negative. I asked if he had symptoms which urged him to get tested. “No, I came in contact with someone who has Covid”. And he’s pissy about isolating...WTF!
- Woderwick

I just had to isolate and I was pissy about it. Not in a isolations are stupid (frank) lockdowns kind of way, but in a I'm stuck at home for 10 days and there's only so much Netflix kind of way. It happens. 🤷🏻‍♂️

So he's better than Marty
- Canada Cup

God, I hope so.

Ontario school from home again after the break.

Means my wife and kid are here with me all day again. FML.
- Aetherial

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My wife has to return to teach special needs - i still have to work but my 2 boys have to stay home and home school

They’ll kill each other 🤣

I just had to isolate and I was pissy about it. Not in a isolations are stupid (frank) lockdowns kind of way, but in a I'm stuck at home for 10 days and there's only so much Netflix kind of way. It happens. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

A year ago, I couldn't imagine quarantining at home for 14 days.

Now I know I could do it easily if I had to.

So he's better than Marty
- Canada Cup

That's a low bar. I'd actually prefer Calle Rosen have to step in before Marincin.

A year ago, I couldn't imagine quarantining at home for 14 days.

Now I know I could do it easily if I had to.
- Atomic Wedgie

I could do it, give me 6 months - wouldn’t bother me too much.

*heads to Amazon.ca to look for new toys*

Oh yes totally, every single guy in the league who's outside the top 6 is exactly the same. GMs basically flip coins when finding them, scouts throw darts at the draft if they're not going to be guaranteed top 6.

Teams with quality dependable options go deeper than teams who don't. That's been a point that's been reiterated in so many places I can't believe I'm taking the time to say it to you.

Its like you've never watched hockey at all and haven't seen the difference between what happens to the leafs come playoff time when they have to suit Marincin up, and the teams like Tampa and the options they had to throw in.
- joel878

Dude.

They are all 6-7 d men that can kill penalties.

Quit being all pissy.

I think Yzerman wins this trade based on getting a 1st and a 2nd round pick. I don't know enough about Vrana to say he's better or worse than Mantha is. Mantha has an incredible shot and a big body. When he's on his game he can't really be stopped.

Problem is that most of the time he's a floating perimeter player who doesn't work hard enough. I knew Yzerman was angry with Mantha's underwhelming game this season. He expected a big year out of Mantha after he signed him to that big contract extension.

I figured Yzerman would trade him this summer. But he obviously was given an offer he couldn't refuse. It's always if, if, if with Mantha. But the inconsistency and injuries added up to Mantha being traded.
- gergeswillems

Yzerman is annoyingly good with trades.

I can't remember a clear loss. This one appears to be a massive win.

I just had to isolate and I was pissy about it. Not in a isolations are stupid (frank) lockdowns kind of way, but in a I'm stuck at home for 10 days and there's only so much Netflix kind of way. It happens. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

This I get. This guy wanted to go back to work, stepping into other people’s homes...and he tries to shake hands every time I see him. Shook hands with our kitchen guys when he was here measuring. When he left they were staring at their hands like WTF!? “Got any hand sanitizer?”

No, I think he starts tonight doesn’t he?
- Garnie

Kristen Shilton says Campbell is starting.

A year ago, I couldn't imagine quarantining at home for 14 days.

Now I know I could do it easily if I had to.
- Atomic Wedgie

My first quarantine last April, I quit smoking cigarettes after 21 years. Longest I've ever been quit by a landslide.

I've probably been through at least 5 quarantines now, with that and unable to spend money like before I'm sure wife and I are going to Europe for a month when this is done. There's nothing to do but put money away.

That and my cooking game has gotten insanely good. There's been a lot of pros. Still makes me grumpy though, can only do so much in the house before its Xbox and naps.

Full disclosure, I'm just needling at this point. In a perfect world and we couldn't upgrade Dermott, next best thing for me would have been Benn as a #7, Merrill or Hutton as #8. I don't hate Hutton, I just have a different preference.

Happy to see some insulation before guys like Marincin and the rookies either way.
- joel878

Pretty much, this.

I would like to see him with some Dermott minutes to see what he can do in a sheltered role though.

This I get, this guy wanted to go back to work, stepping into other people’s homes...and he tries to shake hands every time I see him. Shook hands with our kitchen guys when he was here measuring. When he left they were staring at their hands like WTF!? “Got any hand sanitizer?”
- Woderwick

Yeah he's clueless then, I treat everyone in the outside world like they have leprosy. 😆

Wow Yzerman pulled of one of the biggest fleeces in NHL trades in last 10 years..
- MaximusAurelius

Totally agree with ya. Vrana= Mantua IMO.

Vrana is better than Mantha.
It's forsberg for erat bad Type of deal for washington with the 1st and 2nd rounder thrown in, and panik is a serviceable 3rd liner as well.
Fleece of the year for sure
- MaximusAurelius

Yes I agree

Although I do like Mantha.....
Vrana is really good + 1st and 2nd 🙄