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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
Unless it's some crazy move I hope the Pens are done. I've warmed up to the move more and more, and while it's not what I was expecting I'm content. Don't (frank) it up with some last minute awful trade.
- Rinosaur

I doubt Hextall makes an 11th hour (frank) it trade. I think we’re done
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
I doubt Hextall makes an 11th hour (frank) it trade. I think we’re done
- Victoro311


Which again, I'm happy with. I would have maybe liked an extra middle-six LW so we could have a Zucker-McCann-Carter line, but I think the Pens made it ok.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:12 PM ET
I doubt Hextall makes an 11th hour (frank) it trade. I think we’re done
- Victoro311

I hope we are. I'm just worried about Glendening for some damn reason.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:15 PM ET
Which again, I'm happy with. I would have maybe liked an extra middle-six LW so we could have a Zucker-McCann-Carter line, but I think the Pens made it ok.
- Rinosaur

Yeah I like the Carter trade way more after everything settled. No top 6 guys really moved besides Hall, who was obviously undervalued, but there were some pretty bad overpays today. We ended up getting an offensive third liner for pretty fair. Not sexy, doesn’t really move the needle, but will make us better when healthy. Optimized lines probably look like this:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rust
McCann-Malkin-Kapanen
Zucker-Blueger-Carter
ZAR-Gaudreau-Tanev

Not overly impressive, but I think that is “anything can happen” territory.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 3:15 PM ET
I hope we are. I'm just worried about Glendening for some damn reason.
- burgh4life87

Me too
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Apr 12 @ 3:16 PM ET
Sam Bennett gets traded for about the same amount as Taylor Hall !!!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 3:16 PM ET
Yeah I like the Carter trade way more after everything settled. No top 6 guys really moved besides Hall, who was obviously undervalued, but there were some pretty bad overpays today. We ended up getting an offensive third liner for pretty fair. Not sexy, doesn’t really move the needle, but will make us better when healthy. Optimized lines probably look like this:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rust
McCann-Malkin-Kapanen
Zucker-Blueger-Carter
ZAR-Gaudreau-Tanev

Not overly impressive, but I think that is “anything can happen” territory.

- Victoro311

You got the wrong G at 4C
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 3:17 PM ET
Yeah I like the Carter trade way more after everything settled. No top 6 guys really moved besides Hall, who was obviously undervalued, but there were some pretty bad overpays today. We ended up getting an offensive third liner for pretty fair. Not sexy, doesn’t really move the needle, but will make us better when healthy. Optimized lines probably look like this:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rust
McCann-Malkin-Kapanen
Zucker-Blueger-Carter
ZAR-Gaudreau-Tanev

Not overly impressive, but I think that is “anything can happen” territory.

- Victoro311


The Pens have very well-rounded depth and I don't think you can underestimate that.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:18 PM ET
You got the wrong G at 4C
- Feds91Stammer

(frank) of you’re not getting or 2nd for Glendening.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 3:18 PM ET
(frank) of you’re not getting or 2nd for Glendening.
- Victoro311

I just want anything for him at this point
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 3:18 PM ET
A bunch sifting through right now.

Hayden Fleury to ANA
Raffl to WSH
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:19 PM ET
The Pens have very well-rounded depth and I don't think you can underestimate that.
- Rinosaur

Lol not really. Anyone in the top 9 gets hurt and a 4th liner goes into his place. Good depth is when you can replace a top 9 guy with another top 9 guy. We are hyper reliant on perfect health going into the playoffs, and we’re the penguins so...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 3:20 PM ET
Lol not really. Anyone in the top 9 gets hurt and a 4th liner goes into his place. Good depth is when you can replace a top 9 guy with another top 9 guy. We are hyper reliant on perfect health going into the playoffs, and we’re the penguins so...
- Victoro311

At least you have the best goalie duo in the league.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 3:24 PM ET
Lol not really. Anyone in the top 9 gets hurt and a 4th liner goes into his place. Good depth is when you can replace a top 9 guy with another top 9 guy. We are hyper reliant on perfect health going into the playoffs, and we’re the penguins so...
- Victoro311


The Pens "fourth line" of Z/B/T are all players who are a third line on more than a few teams. I think that's pretty solid.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:27 PM ET
The Pens "fourth line" of Z/B/T are all players who are a third line on more than a few teams. I think that's pretty solid.
- Rinosaur

If Blueger isn’t the 3C then you have a 4th liner in Gaudreau playing 3C. Unless you have Carter playing 3C in which case you get a 4th liner in Evan Rodrigues playing 3RW. I think you can argue that Tanev is top 9 if you want, but ZAR definitely isn’t.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:30 PM ET
Frankin Caps got Mantha???
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 3:30 PM ET
If Blueger isn’t the 3C then you have a 4th liner in Gaudreau playing 3C. Unless you have Carter playing 3C in which case you get a 4th liner in Evan Rodrigues playing 3RW. I think you can argue that Tanev is top 9 if you want, but ZAR definitely isn’t.
- Victoro311


I think it's very difficult, even for very good teams to have that kind of depth where you can basically swap everyone up and down the lineup in case of emergency. I'm not saying the Pens have the best depth, but I think it's well-rounded. The fact the have a couple of fourth-liners who can come up right up and make for a solid fourth line while other guys get moved up says a lot.

We sometimes take for granted having quality fourth line players. It's not as easy as it seems to find them.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 3:31 PM ET
Frankin Caps got Mantha???
- burgh4life87


Well (frank)
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:34 PM ET
Well (frank)
- Rinosaur

They are saying a 1st and Vrana. I really like Vrana.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 3:36 PM ET
They are saying a 1st and Vrana. I really like Vrana.
- burgh4life87


Yeah. I'm actually kind of surprised by that move.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 12 @ 3:36 PM ET
Frankin Caps got Mantha???
- burgh4life87

Wow can't wait to see that whole deal
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 3:37 PM ET
Wow can't wait to see that whole deal
- 668710

Yeah I think caps might have gotten fleeced
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 12 @ 3:38 PM ET
Yeah. I'm actually kind of surprised by that move.
- Rinosaur

I heard a 1sr, 2nd, Vrana and Panik
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 12 @ 3:38 PM ET
Wow can't wait to see that whole deal
- 668710


Didn’t know Washington could get bigger and more skilled at the same time. Glad he’s pretty soft though. (frank)ing Washington. I was just thinking how quiet they were until I saw that.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 3:38 PM ET
I heard a 1sr, 2nd, Vrana and Panik
- 668710

Now that is a trade to make a trade.
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