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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
VGK send a 2nd and 3rd for Janmark and a 5th? So much for the buyers market lol. I would not pay a second for him.
- burgh4life87

They are gonna crash and burn hard. Been pissing assets away ever since they came into the league.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
Gonna be Rust and a 3rd for Bennett and a 1st. That way ERod gets his top line spot back.
- Feds91Stammer

(frank) off lol
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 1:19 PM ET
Unlikely now with the Janmark deal
- Feds91Stammer


Don’t think have a poop ton of LTIR banked from Pietrangelo?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 12 @ 1:19 PM ET
They are gonna crash and burn hard. Been pissing assets away ever since they came into the league.
- Feds91Stammer

Yea they collected a good bunch of pics at their draft and haven't retained much.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:20 PM ET
(frank) off lol
- 668710

Don’t shoot the messenger
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:21 PM ET
Don’t think have a poop ton of LTIR banked from Pietrangelo?
- Rinosaur

You don’t bank LTIR. Pietrangelo is on the active roster. CF has them at 148k in cap space before the deal.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
You don’t bank LTIR. Pietrangelo is on the active roster. CF has them at 148k in cap space before the deal.
- Feds91Stammer


Ah ok. I thought you could accrue and use later.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
Yea they collected a good bunch of pics at their draft and haven't retained much.
- 668710

Gave away a 1st 2nd and 3rd for 20 games of Tatar. Turned around and gave away Suzuki to get rid of him. Stonks.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
You don’t bank LTIR. Pietrangelo is on the active roster. CF has them at 148k in cap space before the deal.
- Feds91Stammer

Yah, apparently SJ is being used again to retain cap and get a pick.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
Ah ok. I thought you could accrue and use later.
- Rinosaur

Nope. Either you have LTIR relief or you don’t.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
Don’t shoot the messenger
- Feds91Stammer

That's my favorite thing to do lol
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Apr 12 @ 1:24 PM ET
I just wonder where someone like him plays. Bennett-McCann-Carter with Zucker back on Geno's line? Bennett with Geno? None of these ideas give me the warm and fuzzies.
- Rinosaur


I wonder if Zucker wouldn't also be a possibility going the other way...

How about:

CGY- Zucker, Patrick
PIT - Bennett, Laughton
PHI - Gaudreau
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:24 PM ET
Yah, apparently SJ is being used again to retain cap and get a pick.
- burgh4life87

Super smart way to buy picks. The retention, proration, and escrow and you’re barely on the hook for real money.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:24 PM ET
I wonder if Zucker wouldn't also be a possibility going the other way...

How about:

CGY- Zucker, Patrick
PIT - Bennett, Laughton
PHI - Gaudreau

- MacPatty

How about no.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 1:25 PM ET
I wonder if Zucker wouldn't also be a possibility going the other way...

How about:

CGY- Zucker, Patrick
PIT - Bennett, Laughton
PHI - Gaudreau

- MacPatty


I doubt it, but I do believe this is Zucker’s last season with the Pens.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 12 @ 1:26 PM ET
Super smart way to buy picks. The retention, proration, and escrow and you’re barely on the hook for real money.
- Feds91Stammer

Yah, especially for a team that isn't going to be a player in the UFA market for a long time with their cap issues. Drafting and developing talent for the future is basically all they can do.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Apr 12 @ 1:33 PM ET
Yah, especially for a team that isn't going to be a player in the UFA market for a long time with their cap issues. Drafting and developing talent for the future is basically all they can do.
- burgh4life87


I always wanted to see a team fully embrace this. FULL Rebuild, just be a hub for dead money, bad contracts, facilitating trades, or overpaying FA's on 1 year deals with the sole intent of flipping them at the deadline with retention

Aside from getting top picks for a putrid on ice performance, I wonder what could be stockpiled in future picks and assets. really put the focus on developing your high picks too rather then rushing them to the big club

When the time is right, go all in on big name FA's, your young players on their ELC's/bridge deals and a steady stream of talent in the pipeline
pghbirdman
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 12 @ 1:36 PM ET
I doubt it, but I do believe this is Zucker’s last season with the Pens.
- Rinosaur


Perhaps Zucker is our expansion victim. Decent player but GMJR became infatuated with him. Glad nothing crazy has been done at the deadline yet

Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Apr 12 @ 1:37 PM ET
I feel like the last few years the week leading up to the deadline was more active than this year. Maybe I just have selective memory.
- Rinosaur

Too many teams still technically in it with the shortened season.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
Perhaps Zucker is our expansion victim. Decent player but GMJR became infatuated with him. Glad nothing crazy has been done at the deadline yet
- pghbirdman


I hate to lose a player with value to the expansion, but it would help for sure. At this point I'd rather lose Zucker than Blueger.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Apr 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
Ah ok. I thought you could accrue and use later.
- Rinosaur

What I think you're thinking of is how extra cap space accrues. You actually don't get to bank cap space while using LTIR.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:39 PM ET
Lmao Brandon Sutter in play per Ek
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:40 PM ET
Too many teams still technically in it with the shortened season.
- Tojo.

Detroit is technically still in it lol
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 12 @ 1:40 PM ET
EK now tying us to Sutter. I just threw up in my mouth.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Apr 12 @ 1:41 PM ET
We're getting Brandon Sutter!!! RW will be on 4Chan with a firearm very soon!
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