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Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Apr 13 @ 8:17 AM ET
I think Jimmy is saying he won't be eligible to be taken without a contract.
- JRR1285


really? that's a significant loophole
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Apr 13 @ 8:21 AM ET
really? that's a significant loophole

- Greschnergy#4

Seems like a trend this year. All of these teams finding loopholes but the only rule change is to make sure the Rangers can’t get their greasy hands on a lotto pick again. smh.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 13 @ 8:21 AM ET
really? that's a significant loophole

- Greschnergy#4



Why? It's also a gamble that would allow a player to potentially get to free agency.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 13 @ 8:35 AM ET
really? that's a significant loophole

- Greschnergy#4


yeah, it's 100% certain that Caps have already worked out an extension with Ovechkin and won't sign it until after the expansion draft, so they can protect 7 other forwards instead

I guess Seattle could waste their expansion pick on him if they wanted to but that would seem silly
ELew11
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 07.22.2016

Apr 13 @ 8:38 AM ET
Seems like a trend this year. All of these teams finding loopholes but the only rule change is to make sure the Rangers can’t get their greasy hands on a lotto pick again. smh.
- Bean_Dip



As I understand it, those changes don't take effect until next year, and previous wins don't count. So we would need to win it twice more in the future before we would be impacted.

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The 2021 NHL Draft Lottery will be reduced from three drawings to two as part of changes announced Tuesday.

The changes, approved by the NHL Board of Governors, will determine the order of the NHL Draft for the teams that do not qualify for the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Two other changes will begin with the 2022 NHL Draft Lottery:

-- Teams will be restricted from moving up more than 10 spots if it wins one of the lottery draws.

-- Teams cannot win the lottery more than twice in a five-year period. Wins in the lottery prior to 2022 will not be counted toward this total.

ELew11
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 07.22.2016

Apr 13 @ 8:43 AM ET
yeah, it's 100% certain that Caps have already worked out an extension with Ovechkin and won't sign it until after the expansion draft, so they can protect 7 other forwards instead

I guess Seattle could waste their expansion pick on him if they wanted to but that would seem silly

- jimbro83



That's an interesting question...
Do players become FAs July 1st this year? or is it still delayed like last year?
The expansion draft is July 21st, so if a player is a FA, I'm not sure Seattle could select him because technically, he isn't attached to any team.
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Apr 13 @ 8:44 AM ET
As I understand it, those changes don't take effect until next year, and previous wins don't count. So we would need to win it twice more in the future before we would be impacted.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

The 2021 NHL Draft Lottery will be reduced from three drawings to two as part of changes announced Tuesday.

The changes, approved by the NHL Board of Governors, will determine the order of the NHL Draft for the teams that do not qualify for the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Two other changes will begin with the 2022 NHL Draft Lottery:

-- Teams will be restricted from moving up more than 10 spots if it wins one of the lottery draws.

-- Teams cannot win the lottery more than twice in a five-year period. Wins in the lottery prior to 2022 will not be counted toward this total.

- ELew11

Ah, did not know that. Thanks!
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 13 @ 8:45 AM ET
That's an interesting question...
Do players become FAs July 1st this year? or is it still delayed like last year?
The expansion draft is July 21st, so if a player is a FA, I'm not sure Seattle could select him because technically, he isn't attached to any team.

- ELew11


entry draft is July 23rd and 24th

free agency starts July 28th
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 13 @ 8:47 AM ET
As I understand it, those changes don't take effect until next year, and previous wins don't count. So we would need to win it twice more in the future before we would be impacted.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

The 2021 NHL Draft Lottery will be reduced from three drawings to two as part of changes announced Tuesday.

The changes, approved by the NHL Board of Governors, will determine the order of the NHL Draft for the teams that do not qualify for the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Two other changes will begin with the 2022 NHL Draft Lottery:

-- Teams will be restricted from moving up more than 10 spots if it wins one of the lottery draws.

-- Teams cannot win the lottery more than twice in a five-year period. Wins in the lottery prior to 2022 will not be counted toward this total.

- ELew11


Thanks for the info. That answers all of my questions. These rules won't impact the Rangers since they'll be competing for a Cup for the next 10+ years.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 13 @ 8:47 AM ET
entry draft is July 23rd and 24th

free agency starts July 28th

- jimbro83



I saw when it said raft.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 13 @ 8:48 AM ET
Kravtsov first goal tonight

bank on it

- jimbro83

Let’s go!! First hat trick. If we are going to do this, let’s do it right
ELew11
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 07.22.2016

Apr 13 @ 8:50 AM ET
entry draft is July 23rd and 24th

free agency starts July 28th

- jimbro83


Thanks
Then it would be a wasted pick because he would just walk away on the 28th.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Apr 13 @ 8:50 AM ET
I think Jimmy is saying he won't be eligible to be taken without a contract.
- JRR1285

Oh, I misread that as they were going to expose him. That makes more sense.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Apr 13 @ 8:50 AM ET
As I understand it, those changes don't take effect until next year, and previous wins don't count. So we would need to win it twice more in the future before we would be impacted.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

The 2021 NHL Draft Lottery will be reduced from three drawings to two as part of changes announced Tuesday.

The changes, approved by the NHL Board of Governors, will determine the order of the NHL Draft for the teams that do not qualify for the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Two other changes will begin with the 2022 NHL Draft Lottery:

-- Teams will be restricted from moving up more than 10 spots if it wins one of the lottery draws.

-- Teams cannot win the lottery more than twice in a five-year period. Wins in the lottery prior to 2022 will not be counted toward this total.

- ELew11


This is going to open up a whole new can of worms. Considering the same teams tend to be bad year in and out, it's gonna open up a Pandora's box where a team like the Pens have a bad year due to injury or whatever and are guaranteed to win the loterry because so many other teams can't. At least the slate starts fresh when the rules start.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 13 @ 9:03 AM ET
I saw when it said raft.
- JRR1285


hahaha
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 13 @ 9:05 AM ET
Thanks
Then it would be a wasted pick because he would just walk away on the 28th.

- ELew11


there's only one incentive that exists for Seattle to take Ovechkin, and that would be it would give them the option to give him an 8 year contract

but, no chance he is leaving Washington

I also think it's probably the reason the Oilers haven't signed RNH yet, just waiting for expansion draft to pass to sign an already worked out extension
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 13 @ 9:09 AM ET
there's only one incentive that exists for Seattle to take Ovechkin, and that would be it would give them the option to give him an 8 year contract

but, no chance he is leaving Washington

I also think it's probably the reason the Oilers haven't signed RNH yet, just waiting for expansion draft to pass to sign an already worked out extension

- jimbro83

Rangers doing the same thing with Jack Johnson, can't risk Seattle taking him. Wait till after to give him that new 3 year deal
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 13 @ 9:17 AM ET
Rangers doing the same thing with Jack Johnson, can't risk Seattle taking him. Wait till after to give him that new 3 year deal
- TPC


absolutely
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Apr 13 @ 9:18 AM ET
Rangers doing the same thing with Jack Johnson, can't risk Seattle taking him. Wait till after to give him that new 3 year deal
- TPC

Hovering over the flag button...
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Apr 13 @ 9:27 AM ET
Rangers doing the same thing with Jack Johnson, can't risk Seattle taking him. Wait till after to give him that new 3 year deal
- TPC

Until yesterday when someone brought him up, I had completely forgotten about JJ. As soon as he's healthy, you bet your ass he'll be back in the lineup
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Apr 13 @ 9:31 AM ET
there's only one incentive that exists for Seattle to take Ovechkin, and that would be it would give them the option to give him an 8 year contract

but, no chance he is leaving Washington

I also think it's probably the reason the Oilers haven't signed RNH yet, just waiting for expansion draft to pass to sign an already worked out extension

- jimbro83


Is Seattle going to get one decent player? A top 6 forward or a top 4 defenseman? I’m starting to really doubt it. They’re gonna be full of goons and reclamation projects.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
Looks like Zac Jones is now officially signed
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 13 @ 9:35 AM ET
Looks like Zac Jones is now officially signed
- TPC


HOLLA
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 13 @ 9:38 AM ET
Is Seattle going to get one decent player? A top 6 forward or a top 4 defenseman? I’m starting to really doubt it. They’re gonna be full of goons and reclamation projects.
- TC88


iI think there is a good chance they could end up with Ryan Graves, Brady Skjei and Ryan McDonagh lol
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 13 @ 9:39 AM ET
Looks like Zac Jones is now officially signed
- TPC

Signed sealed and delivered. Wonder when he first plays in a game
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