But this is where I lose you. This is not high school hockey! These are professional hockey players. They are supposed to know how to play defense, use their size and reach, know angles to the puck, skate well, hit, cover, and play multiple defensive systems. These are correctable mistakes yes, but its not the coaches that need to correct them, its the professional players that need to put the time in and correct their own mistakes. But regarding Myers I go back to the point at is backed up by AV, its not the number of mistakes, its the types of mistakes that is the most concerning.


- jd250

So by this logic, NHL players don't need coaching in terms of playing defense or any other part of the game. They really shouldn't even need practice. I don't know why NHL coaches have practice and run drills such as forecheck drills, defensive coverage drills etc. Why they have video sessions. These are professional hockey players for heavens sake. Coaches should just show up for games to put the lineup together and tell the players which line is up next. Coaches should also never be fired. These are professional players. Why is everyone calling for the assistant coaches to be fired? These are professional players.

So forget Makar for a moment, and compare Morin to Myers. Morin has been hurt and has missed multiple seasons. Myers has played many more NHL games than Morin. Morin is only 1 year older than Myers. You tell me, which player this year has looked better? Which player has made a more significant impact to the team? Now if your honest you know the answer is Morin, so now tell me, why is that?
- jd250

This is another poorly thought out comment. Morin has barely played, is in a 3rd line role and is playing what, 10 minutes a game? A little early to be toting big Sam in a small sample size. Are you telling me Morin has made a bigger impact this year than Myers did last year?

I'm also still waiting for you to provide those reports from the past that stated that Myers is un-coachable and unwilling to use his size and reach before this season.

raffl scores a hatrick on us tomorrow

I think Myers is 2 pairing defenseman with the possibility of being 1 pairing DMan in time. Judging him on his worst stretch would be a mistake. Defenseman take time to develop and giving up on him would be a mistake. I would not want us to live through the learning/ development years just to trade him to watch another team have him for the productive years.
- Hosher12

I'm with you. I think the Flyers are also. They would move him if they have to add a legitimate top defenseman but otherwise, I think they think the same as you and I do.

raffl scores a hatrick on us tomorrow
- 2Real

You really need somebody to list all the high seeded regular season darlings that ultimately didn't win the Cup? There's like half a dozen every year.
- Tomahawk

On such topics, you seem to display a daily misunderstanding that is epic, almost MJL-esque, in that it displays below 5th grade level confusion. Do you have even a rudimentary understanding of how correlation and probability work with data?

Here is your picture:

1. Plot on the x axis plot the following points:{1995, 1996, .....2020} for each of the previous 27 years. I started at 1995 because of your Devils example.

2. Now plot on the y axis the possible regular season standings of the teams entering playoffs {1,2,3,....16}

Now on this graph, put in the 27 dots, where each dot is of the form (x,y), where x=year, y = regular season standing* entering playoffs (y=1 would be Presidents winner).

3. Now the more clustered your scatter chart is above y=8 (midpoint), the more correlation there is with regular season ranking and championship.

Alternatively, compute the p-coefficient from the dozens of online sites.

It will take you 15 mins tops.

EDIT: * of SC winner, ofc.

As an aside, my guess is the line y=3 would be the best fit. If it was indeed completely random, you would see y=8 be the best fit, and you would see the data evenly scattered in the 27 × 16 box. The more top heavy the data is, the stronger the correlation between regular season record and winning.

Great..put aside the DB I hate the Flyers routine for a bit and actually try to make a legit point for once.
- opeth_pa

The Flyers have sucked for a decade now. At what point does it become unacceptable?

raffl scores a hatrick on us tomorrow
- 2Real

According to Fletcher he's injured and weeks away from returning.

According to Fletcher he's injured and weeks away from returning.
- PLindbergh31

wow washington really feels sorry for us

On such topics, you seem to display a daily misunderstanding that is epic, almost MJL-esque, in that it displays below 5th grade level confusion. Do you have even a rudimentary understanding of how correlation and probability work with data?

Here is your picture:

1. Plot on the x axis plot the following points:{1995, 1996, .....2020} for each of the previous 27 years. I started at 1995 because of your Devils example.

2. Now plot on the y axis the possible regular season standings of the teams entering playoffs {1,2,3,....16}

Now on this graph, put in the 27 dots, where each dot is of the form (x,y), where x=year, y = regular season standing entering playoffs (y=1 would be Presidents winner).

3. Now the more clustered your scatter chart is above y=8 (midpoint), the more correlation there is with regular season ranking and championship.

Alternatively, compute the p-coefficient from the dozens of online sites.

It will take you 15 mins tops.
- PT21

I bet Tomahawk understands what the word never means. I also bet he learned what it meant before the age of a 5th grader.

Gotta love DeAngelo telling rangers go (frank) your self for termination haha. Enjoy the buy out

Gotta love DeAngelo telling rangers go (frank) your self for termination haha. Enjoy the buy out
- arichardson22

NIce where u see this at ?

Gotta love DeAngelo telling rangers go (frank) your self for termination haha. Enjoy the buy out
- arichardson22

Link

I bet Tomahawk understands what the word never means. I also bet he learned what it meant before the age of a 5th grader.
- MJL

I don't have to bet that you don't though.

For you took the word never, from the following paragraph I posted earlier (which is clearly talking about winners, as was the poster who I originally responded to) and provided as a counterexample the Flyers in 2010.

"This is not true. Almost always, in hockey a team that ends up winning has a very strong regular season, especially 2nd half of the season. Teams in hockey never stumble into playoffs and then get hot, like what happened to Giants when they upset the Pats perfect season."

But lookie you! You got me to respond! Yay! What a night for you, huh!

NIce where u see this at ?
- login

https://twitter.com/tsnho.../1381755217134387201?s=21

https://twitter.com/tsnhockey/status/1381755217134387201?s=21
- arichardson22

Thanks. That is awesome. Love Tony D; He is a good guy. Helps out locally for youth hockey that many have no idea about.

That being said does his rep take an additional hit for refusing? Would love his personality on the flyers.

I don't have to bet that you don't though.

For you took the word never, from the following paragraph I posted earlier (which is clearly talking about winners, as was the poster who I originally responded to) and provided as a counterexample the Flyers in 2010.

"This is not true. Almost always, in hockey a team that ends up winning has a very strong regular season, especially 2nd half of the season. Teams in hockey never stumble into playoffs and then get hot, like what happened to Giants when they upset the Pats perfect season."

But lookie you! You got me to respond! Yay! What a night for you, huh!
- PT21

Like I said, you couldn't possibly ignore me. You don't have it in you. Whether you reply directly or indirectly. You've been proven wrong with that statement. It's simple that even a 5th grader could understand it. Yet you somehow can't. Then you respond with that ridiculous post about plotting a graph. Very humorous.

I'm with you. I think the Flyers are also. They would move him if they have to add a legitimate top defenseman but otherwise, I think they think the same as you and I do.
- MJL

We both can be part of the Flyers GM staff, maybe as consultants!😀

Would have loved a guy like josh Andersen

Would have loved a guy like josh Andersen
- ClaudeFather

Yes, that is the kind of player we need.

Yes, that is the kind of player we need.
- MJL

Big, fast, plays the game hard. It’s a tough get, hopefully Fletch makes some smart moves this off-season

Like I said, you couldn't possibly ignore me. You don't have it in you. Whether you reply directly or indirectly. You've been proven wrong with that statement. It's simple that even a 5th grader could understand it. Yet you somehow can't. Then you respond with that ridiculous post about plotting a graph. Very humorous.
- MJL

If a 55ish year old man is so staggeringly lacking in alternative possibilities for his entertainment that he ends up on a sports site everyday deliberately misquoting and misinterpreting another poster just to draw his reaction then an occasional pity response is hardly evidence of a lack of control.

I have ignored the ten+ previous times this week, one of which happened just Saturday for example, where I clearly used words like "add" and "arsenal" to refer to the advantage of the accumulation of RedWings picks and you responded as though I had made my point about the single 4th round pick:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=171889&page=3)

I should just stop reading your posts altogether. The content to aggravation/misery ratio is so low, that it would justify my decision easily.

Big, fast, plays the game hard. It’s a tough get, hopefully Fletch makes some smart moves this off-season
- ClaudeFather

A player that is similar that might be available in free agency is Blake Coleman

Thanks. That is awesome. Love Tony D; He is a good guy. Helps out locally for youth hockey that many have no idea about.

That being said does his rep take an additional hit for refusing? Would love his personality on the flyers.
- login

I would be surprised if his career continues much longer. The guy is clearly a moron of the highest order, and that part blots out everything else.

A player that is similar that might be available in free agency is Blake Coleman
- MJL

I have not watched him much but looking at his stats he has been a consistent producer and if he plays the game hard like that I’m interested for the right price and term.

If a 55ish year old man is so staggeringly lacking in alternative possibilities for his entertainment that he ends up on a sports site everyday deliberately misquoting and misinterpreting another poster just to draw his reaction then an occasional pity response is hardly evidence of a lack of control.

I have ignored the ten+ previous times this week, one of which happened just Saturday for example, where I clearly used words like "add" and "arsenal" to refer to the advantage of the accumulation of RedWings picks and you responded as though I had made my point about the single 4th round pick:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=171889&page=3)

I should just stop reading your posts altogether. The content to aggravation/misery ratio is so low, that it would justify my decision easily.
- PT21

What you should do is stop insulting posters, which you never do, such as labeling them as having a 5th grade understanding. Especially when you can't understand what never means.