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joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:11 AM ET
Boston has been poop all year, Hall has the same number of goals this year as Justin Holl!
- winsix


Whether hall has been poop this year or not, he's a former 1st overall pick and Hart trophy winner. That return is absolutely embarrassing for Buffalo.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:11 AM ET
Just a matter of what year.
- Woderwick


The sun might explode first
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Apr 12 @ 12:11 AM ET
Bjork isn’t really a prospect.
- Steven_Seagull

More like a suspect.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:12 AM ET
Bet after the 1st's that have been traded, Buttalo fans must've been pretty confident they'd get one for Hall, too.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Guaranteed they are mad.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:13 AM ET
Is Buffalo just a money laundering operation or something? Is Trump a silent partner?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 12 @ 12:14 AM ET
The sun might explode first
- Zezel


Thus improving the ice surface in Toronto
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:15 AM ET
Is Buffalo just a money laundering operation or something? Is Trump a silent partner?
- Zezel


😂😂😂

Why do they exist...

I like the Foligno deal and would rather have him... But it makes me wonder if I would have preferred Hall if all it cost was a 2nd rounder and some scrub player. 🤔
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Apr 12 @ 12:18 AM ET
😂😂😂

Why do they exist...

I like the Foligno deal and would rather have him... But it makes me wonder if I would have preferred Hall if all it cost was a 2nd rounder and some scrub player. 🤔

- joel878



Apparently there wasn’t any retention on Hall.


Edit: never mind. They retained half.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:20 AM ET
It's official, Buffaloitis is the new Leafy.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Apr 12 @ 12:21 AM ET
Apparently there wasn’t any retention on Hall.


Edit: never mind. They retained half.

- Steven_Seagull

And they still got fleeced.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Apr 12 @ 12:22 AM ET
And they still got fleeced.
- gergeswillems



Retained half and still couldn’t get a 1st? lol
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Apr 12 @ 12:26 AM ET


Platinum Seat Ghosts
@3rdPeriodSuits
Two possible explanations:

1. Taylor Hall’s reputation in the leagues is tanked.

2. Taylor Hall used his NMC to dictate 1 or 2 acceptable teams and handcuffed the Sabres.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Apr 12 @ 12:27 AM ET
Platinum Seat Ghosts
@3rdPeriodSuits
Two possible explanations:

1. Taylor Hall’s reputation in the leagues is tanked.

2. Taylor Hall used his NMC to dictate 1 or 2 acceptable teams and handcuffed the Sabres.

- Steven_Seagull

3. Bruins want to win the draft lottery
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Apr 12 @ 12:38 AM ET
people calling for bozak back on the team
- Mr_Smokey


It’s happening!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 12 @ 12:43 AM ET
Someone told me that hall would get a first. I said a 2nd and a prospect. Guess who was right?!?!?!?
- Aaron_85

I said hed get a 1st if salary was retained.
Plus that's a decent prospect

Edit: they retained salary.
I was wrong.

Good call
kkvslayer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This Game is Under Regional Blackout, NT
Joined: 06.14.2019

Apr 12 @ 12:47 AM ET
Rittich got pissed in the media Q & A after we beat them when a reporter asked about trade rumours 🤣 On his way here within the week🤣 I like it👍 Don't watch the flames much but he seems to be competent enough.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 12 @ 12:49 AM ET
Whether hall has been poop this year or not, he's a former 1st overall pick and Hart trophy winner. That return is absolutely embarrassing for Buffalo.
- joel878

Prior to today, i didnt think hall would get much, i initially said a 3rd.
Then i saw what the leafs gave up for Foligno and thought for sure hall would get a 1st as a result.
A 2nd and pick is a good middle ground i suppose
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 12 @ 12:58 AM ET
From the tweeter

gsva this season

taylor hall, who sucks and is terrible and is having the worst season of his career: 0.44 wins (0.96 per 82)

nick foligno, hero, legend, gritty veteran who is definitely more valuable than hall: 0.07 wins (0.14 per 82)
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Apr 12 @ 1:06 AM ET
From the tweeter

gsva this season

taylor hall, who sucks and is terrible and is having the worst season of his career: 0.44 wins (0.96 per 82)

nick foligno, hero, legend, gritty veteran who is definitely more valuable than hall: 0.07 wins (0.14 per 82)

- Fakepartofme


Hall is a better player than Foligno. I think that's not really a surprise.

But we already have a bunch of Taylor Hall-like players. Guys who can skate and pass and shoot who aren't physical and don't really like the dirty areas of the ice. All year a common thing we've collectively said is, "We need another Hyman." Foligno is not as good as Hyman, but he fits the bill on what we mean when we say that. We needed more someones who will get in and get physical and muck and make life unpleasant for the opposition's defense, and on the other side of the red line, they can make life more unpleasant in our D-Zone.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Apr 12 @ 1:31 AM ET
And they still got fleeced.
- gergeswillems


Badly. What a poop show. Feel bad for Melody, Duane and all the other Sadbers fans.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 12 @ 4:19 AM ET
Hall is a better player than Foligno. I think that's not really a surprise.

But we already have a bunch of Taylor Hall-like players. Guys who can skate and pass and shoot who aren't physical and don't really like the dirty areas of the ice. All year a common thing we've collectively said is, "We need another Hyman." Foligno is not as good as Hyman, but he fits the bill on what we mean when we say that. We needed more someones who will get in and get physical and muck and make life unpleasant for the opposition's defense, and on the other side of the red line, they can make life more unpleasant in our D-Zone.

- Monkeypunk



completely agree.
I am happy leafs added Foligno instead of Hall.
that said, could have addressed that need in a different fashion at lower cost (in an earlier stage during the season or off-season) - plus the idea is for the whole team to play with heart, not just a few (in particular Nylander is off-setting the whole playoff mindset needed).

Rittich - meh. It was either him or Forsberg from Ottawa, so not a lot of choice.
A third seems like quite a high price.

Still need a d-man that is able to play 'big' in a bottom pairing roll at a low caphit -- maybe Hakanpaa from Ducks is an option.

p.s. when I say Dubas is 'low risk' I mean that true risky trades involve giving up roster players for other players -- seems the only thing he likes is giving up first round picks.

as much as Dubas has made some ok/good moves (Campbell, Muzzin, Galchenyuk, Foligno now) he's made some bad decisions as well (Kapanen trade was bad, the Johnsson contract and decision process was awful - giving up players like Trevor Moore, Marchment and others in favor of mediocre players on worse contracts...
Dubas isn't as bad as I have said on here, but there definitely isn't anything to warrant saying 'Dubas best Leafs GM everrrrrrrrr!!!'
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 12 @ 6:50 AM ET
Badly. What a poop show. Feel bad for Melody, Duane and all the other Sadbers fans.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

We paid almost as much for David Rittich as the Sabres got for Hall...
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:12 AM ET

So is the theory that Hall used his NMC to only allow a trade to a few teams, which drove the price down?

Because the Bruins gave up (frank) all.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 12 @ 7:13 AM ET
So Ryan Murray or Marc staal?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 12 @ 7:18 AM ET
completely agree.
I am happy leafs added Foligno instead of Hall.
that said, could have addressed that need in a different fashion at lower cost (in an earlier stage during the season or off-season) - plus the idea is for the whole team to play with heart, not just a few (in particular Nylander is off-setting the whole playoff mindset needed).

Rittich - meh. It was either him or Forsberg from Ottawa, so not a lot of choice.
A third seems like quite a high price.

Still need a d-man that is able to play 'big' in a bottom pairing roll at a low caphit -- maybe Hakanpaa from Ducks is an option.

p.s. when I say Dubas is 'low risk' I mean that true risky trades involve giving up roster players for other players -- seems the only thing he likes is giving up first round picks.

as much as Dubas has made some ok/good moves (Campbell, Muzzin, Galchenyuk, Foligno now) he's made some bad decisions as well (Kapanen trade was bad, the Johnsson contract and decision process was awful - giving up players like Trevor Moore, Marchment and others in favor of mediocre players on worse contracts...
Dubas isn't as bad as I have said on here, but there definitely isn't anything to warrant saying 'Dubas best Leafs GM everrrrrrrrr!!!'

- MaximusAurelius


How on earth is kapanen trade bad? They got a mid first and a good prospect.

Muzzin and Campbell moves were ok? Those were fantastic moves.

Just stop already.
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