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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Apr 11 @ 5:10 PM ET
M'eh I don't feel that strongly about a 1st round pick when we know it's going to be that late a pick anyhow. I mean technically I guess you can say anyone CAN be resigned, it's just about how much do you want to pay and what can you fit in.

Now I'm also not sure I'd do either Hall or Foligno for a 1st but in Dubie we(I) trust!

- Cush29

When the Red Wings were competing for Cups I didn't really care about trading late 1st round picks. If you think you can win a Cup you should go for it. Like Tampa did last season and yesterday.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Apr 11 @ 5:11 PM ET
When the Red Wings were competing for Cups I didn't really care about trading late 1st round picks. If you think you can win a Cup you should go for it. Like Tampa did last season and yesterday.
- gergeswillems


Agreed, but you have to be really good at finding those later round diamonds in the rough.

bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:13 PM ET
Some hard work getting done today in Buffalo. Sources indicate a Taylor Hall trade is getting close at this point.

Per Darren dreger
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Apr 11 @ 5:14 PM ET
Agreed, but you have to be really good at finding those later round diamonds in the rough.
- Cush29

I know it all too well. Holland's horrible drafting during his last decade in Detroit killed the Red Wings. Finding Datsyuk and Zetterberg in later rounds was pure luck. There's no way they expected either one of them to be franchise players.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Apr 11 @ 5:16 PM ET
Boston Bruin fans say "shhhhhhh don't tell everyone else". Watching the Leafs rip apart teams in regular season and then get pushed around in the playoffs was so depressing.

Hell even last year the Blue Jackets vs Leafs to some degree was the biggest issue - you can only play (and win) at pond hockey if the other team agrees to (or just gets complacent and allows it) play run and gun and nobody agrees to that come playoff time.

- Cush29

Yup. Torts had CBJ clogging everything up and it effectively turned the series into a... well... grind! Leafs simply didn't have an answer.

This team is a better edition from last season but I still feel like there's an edge that's missing.

Hall is a special player though and he could really help to tilt the ice. He doesn't have to be "the man" on this team and he's never had guys like AM34 and Mitch to play with. Sooo... maybe?

Still torn. Maybe we can get both?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Apr 11 @ 5:16 PM ET
Some hard work getting done today in Buffalo. Sources indicate a Taylor Hall trade is getting close at this point.

Per Darren dreger

- bryant

And water is wet.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 11 @ 5:17 PM ET
When the Red Wings were competing for Cups I didn't really care about trading late 1st round picks. If you think you can win a Cup you should go for it. Like Tampa did last season and yesterday.
- gergeswillems



Agree, but you also have to pay the 1st for a the right guy.

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Apr 11 @ 5:18 PM ET
Agree, but you also have to pay the 1st for a the right guy.
- burn

Definitely. A GM better be sure Foligno is the right fit for HIS team.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:19 PM ET
Ah yes, the late 1st round pick that is basically a 2nd. Now that's something that is overrated by fans.
- Santo_44

Late first rounders have netted a lot of good players. Are you related to Cliff Fletcher by chance ?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Apr 11 @ 5:19 PM ET
I know it all too well. Holland's horrible drafting during his last decade in Detroit killed the Red Wings. Finding Datsyuk and Zetterberg in later rounds was pure luck. There's no way they expected either one of them to be franchise players.
- gergeswillems

Holmstrom drafted in the 10th round is still one of my all-time fave Cinderella picks. I'm going to go ahead and guess this was one of the guys Holland scouted in his pre-GM days.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
Flyers just choked to Buffalo - badly.

Commentators were saying it may shift Flyers to sell mode.

- Atomic Wedgie

Not sure why that was the final nail, they are clearly not making the playoffs
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:22 PM ET
Foligno Talks Heat Up
Sounds like Foligno has decided he is ready to move on. He has a NMC though and can dictate where he is willing to play. The Leafs, Wild, Oilers, Bruins, Canadiens among possible teams.
Source: Eklund

- bobbyisno1

That all but confirms he's going to the Avs or Caps. Ek kiss of death
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 11 @ 5:24 PM ET
They should get Hall and play him with Marner and Matthews, so we can call them Kids and the Hall.
- Zezel


And Skalapy can call Willie the Chicken Lady
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:24 PM ET
That all but confirms he's going to the Avs or Caps. Ek kiss of death
- Archaic

His NMC tells me he's going to the team he wants to play for.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Apr 11 @ 5:26 PM ET
Holmstrom drafted in the 10th round is still one of my all-time fave Cinderella picks. I'm going to go ahead and guess this was one of the guys Holland scouted in his pre-GM days.
- mjones242

Holmstrom was drafted in 1994. Likely a Hakan Andersson pick. Red Wings chief euro scout. But Holland was a Scout back in those days.

I still laugh at the story Holmstrom told about Scotty Bowman. During training camp Holmstrom switched his jersey number from 15 to 96. Bowman asked him why. Holmstrom says "It's my first year in the NHL." Bowman says "You better start playing better or it'll be your last." 🤣
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 11 @ 5:29 PM ET
Yup. Torts had CBJ clogging everything up and it effectively turned the series into a... well... grind! Leafs simply didn't have an answer.

This team is a better edition from last season but I still feel like there's an edge that's missing.

Hall is a special player though and he could really help to tilt the ice. He doesn't have to be "the man" on this team and he's never had guys like AM34 and Mitch to play with. Sooo... maybe?

Still torn. Maybe we can get both?

- mjones242


Teams have been playing the Leafs that way this year as well. They haven’t been scoring off the rush nearly as much. It’s been more controlled entries and possession. In fact, their scoring is down over last year.

They’re not just better than last year’s team, they’re playing differently offensively and defensively. When was the last time they won a 6-5 game?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Apr 11 @ 5:33 PM ET
Holmstrom was drafted in 1994. Likely a Hakan Andersson pick. Red Wings chief euro scout. But Holland was a Scout back in those days.

I still laugh at the story Holmstrom told about Scotty Bowman. During training camp Holmstrom switched his jersey number from 15 to 96. Bowman asked him why. Holmstrom says "It's my first year in the NHL." Bowman says "You better start playing better or it'll be your last." 🤣

- gergeswillems

mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Apr 11 @ 5:33 PM ET
Teams have been playing the Leafs that way this year as well. They haven’t been scoring off the rush nearly as much. It’s been more controlled entries and possession. In fact, their scoring is down over last year.

They’re not just better than last year’s team, they’re playing differently offensively and defensively. When was the last time they won a 6-5 game?

- Canada Cup

Last night.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Apr 11 @ 5:34 PM ET
That all but confirms he's going to the Avs or Caps. Ek kiss of death
- Archaic

I'm calling the Avs landing Foligno.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 11 @ 5:37 PM ET
Last night.
- mjones242


Stop making poop up
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 11 @ 5:38 PM ET
Gotta think the Flyers know it's over. Not sure if there's anything on that roster worth poaching though (that would be available).
- mjones242

Nolan Patrick for Sandin and a pick
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:38 PM ET
Stop making poop up
- Canada Cup

Doing his best Max impersonation.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Apr 11 @ 5:39 PM ET

David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
·
39s
👀 getting closer
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 2m
It’s believed 3 teams remain in the mix for Hall. twitter.com/darrendreger/s…
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Apr 11 @ 5:40 PM ET
Nolan Patrick for Sandin and a pick
- MaximusAurelius

He's a broken man.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:40 PM ET
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
·
39s
👀 getting closer
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 2m
It’s believed 3 teams remain in the mix for Hall. twitter.com/darrendreger/s…

- 21peter

Okay, which 3.
But thx.
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