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Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 11 @ 5:02 PM ET
he's the key to staying a bottom feeder for the next decade
- 2Real

For a real pens tank. Sign Gustafsson, Weise VDV and A Mac
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 11 @ 5:03 PM ET
It’s kinda unfair to put this on him although I don’t like the job they’ve done....I only have one question....

‘Would any coach be able to get this current group to another level the way they are currently constructed”?

- landros 2

No, this roster needs to be changed, however a coach has to give his team the best chance to win, and AV is not doing it!
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Apr 11 @ 5:04 PM ET
No, this roster needs to be changed, however a coach has to give his team the best chance to win, and AV is not doing it!
- jd250


Yup, goes without saying the roster needs to turned over.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:04 PM ET
Realistically dont expect too much from the TDL

Its a buyers market and the Flyers dont have much available. At this point buying SHOULD be out of the question but selling also isnt really going to bring us much. Our UFAs are pretty limited

Laughton
Gus
Raffl
Elliott
Morin

I dont see us getting anything but late round picks for Gus, Raffl or Morin. Morin has more value on the team then he does being dealt right now due to lack of play time from injuries.

Laughton and Elliott might get us a 2nd or 3rd but there are so many options out there for those roles so we might get even less.

We likely wont see any major changes until the offseason

landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 11 @ 5:05 PM ET
You see Laughton on that 2nd Buffalo goal? The Flyers better NOT resign him, I want him traded tomorrow!!
- jd250


That goal is 100 % on him....lackadaisical in his own end....it was not a bad play by Sanheim....in the third Laughton left his guy wide open at the point...much like Vorecek did last week...these clowns aren’t rookies, they only make mistakes rookies make.
Keyser soze
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.28.2020

Apr 11 @ 5:06 PM ET
So what happens if Boston lose the next 3 and the flyers win the next 2? Do they still have no chance? Asking for a friend.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:07 PM ET
Realistically dont expect too much from the TDL

Its a buyers market and the Flyers dont have much available. At this point buying SHOULD be out of the question but selling also isnt really going to bring us much. Our UFAs are pretty limited

Laughton
Gus
Raffl
Elliott
Morin

I dont see us getting anything but late round picks for Gus, Raffl or Morin. Morin has more value on the team then he does being dealt right now due to lack of play time from injuries.

Laughton and Elliott might get us a 2nd or 3rd but there are so many options out there for those roles so we might get even less.

We likely wont see any major changes until the offseason

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Opening cap space at the deadline tomorrow shouldn’t be overlooked either if it’s at all possible. It’s clear they’re going to need to spend this summer.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:07 PM ET
So what happens if Boston lose the next 3 and the flyers win the next 2? Do they still have no chance? Asking for a friend.
- Keyser soze

Haha you’re friends with MJL
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 11 @ 5:08 PM ET
So what happens if Boston lose the next 3 and the flyers win the next 2? Do they still have no chance? Asking for a friend.
- Keyser soze


Tell your friend, who probably hasn’t watched them this year, today they showed who they are....not a lot different then the team that sucked all of March...
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 11 @ 5:10 PM ET
For a real pens tank. Sign Gustafsson, Weise VDV and A Mac
- Landsbergfan



We already have VDV, you know him as NAK.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:12 PM ET
Opening cap space at the deadline tomorrow shouldn’t be overlooked either if it’s at all possible. It’s clear they’re going to need to spend this summer.
- hereticpride


They cant though. Whos going to take on Salary? With the Flat Cap you wont be able to move a large contract without taking one back. This would be something to look at IF we were starting a rebuild but thats not where we are at. We are looking to shake things up which is more of an offseason type move.

There are other teams looking to shake their rosters up like CGY, VAN, BUF and Maybe SJ
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 11 @ 5:13 PM ET
We already have VDV, you know him as NAK.
- landros 2

Darn Flyers is a giant catch 22 ha ha
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Apr 11 @ 5:13 PM ET
We can turn things around by resigning Laughton for 6 years
- Just5

And clode
And selke
And for good measure as he has always been a good soldier raffle

Coaches and several players need to go. This isn’t an great revelation. Can’t see coach going as he has a hefty contract and times are tough. There will be a whole list of reasons why change won’t come. At least if will be entertaining

Clode show some balls and request a trade today.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 11 @ 5:14 PM ET
Realistically dont expect too much from the TDL

Its a buyers market and the Flyers dont have much available. At this point buying SHOULD be out of the question but selling also isnt really going to bring us much. Our UFAs are pretty limited

Laughton
Gus
Raffl
Elliott
Morin

I dont see us getting anything but late round picks for Gus, Raffl or Morin. Morin has more value on the team then he does being dealt right now due to lack of play time from injuries.

Laughton and Elliott might get us a 2nd or 3rd but there are so many options out there for those roles so we might get even less.

We likely wont see any major changes until the offseason

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


They aren’t mathematically eliminated! 🤡
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:17 PM ET
So what happens if Boston lose the next 3 and the flyers win the next 2? Do they still have no chance? Asking for a friend.
- Keyser soze


Sure but whats the likelyhood? If BOS loses 3 straight PHI will needs 4 points to tie and BOS would still have games in hand. Boston needs to go on a very big losing streak for PHI to have a chance to pass them.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 11 @ 5:19 PM ET
8 games vs. Buffalo

Outscored 24-22

Laughing stocks
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
Sure but whats the likelyhood? If BOS loses 3 straight PHI will needs 4 points to tie and BOS would still have games in hand. Boston needs to go on a very big losing streak for PHI to have a chance to pass them.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

It’s been over for a couple weeks. They’ve had multiple chances to make a last ditch effort at a playoff run and every time, they come up empty. The trajectory of this season has been epically bad and mind boggling. I thought they might take a step backwards this year losing Niskanen if some of the younger players didn’t improve and the vets weren’t playing at a high level consistently but I didn’t see it going this poorly.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Apr 11 @ 5:21 PM ET
Realistically dont expect too much from the TDL

Its a buyers market and the Flyers dont have much available. At this point buying SHOULD be out of the question but selling also isnt really going to bring us much. Our UFAs are pretty limited

Laughton
Gus
Raffl
Elliott
Morin

I dont see us getting anything but late round picks for Gus, Raffl or Morin. Morin has more value on the team then he does being dealt right now due to lack of play time from injuries.

Laughton and Elliott might get us a 2nd or 3rd but there are so many options out there for those roles so we might get even less.

We likely wont see any major changes until the offseason

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I agree. Only thing I want to see tomorrow is what they DON'T do. And that would be adding to make some unrealistic push.

Offseason Fletcher had major work to do.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 11 @ 5:21 PM ET
Yea your right Claude, Snider watching this from above
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 11 @ 5:23 PM ET
I agree. Only thing I want to see tomorrow is what they DON'T do. And that would be adding to make some unrealistic push.

Offseason Fletcher had major work to do.

- Pelle31Forever



I don’t see any rentals that make sense for the Flyers ....do you ? Like any ?
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 11 @ 5:24 PM ET
It’s kinda unfair to put this on him although I don’t like the job they’ve done....I only have one question....

‘Would any coach be able to get this current group to another level the way they are currently constructed”?

- landros 2


It's not unfair. While it's certainly not ideal, if you followed AV's time in NY and Van, this last month+ are very similar to what lead to his firing in both places. That's not excusing the players from this mess, changes need to be made in that regard too.....but this is more than just making a few mistakes or unlucky bounces or covid. The personnel choices, failure to adjust poor defensive zone play, special teams etc, are all issues he's been heavily criticized for in the past. Even now, everyone says fire the assistants, yet AV chose them specifically and gave them their roles. Given AV'S history, the red flags are flying everywhere.

As far as your question goes, if a replacement is needed, I would approach Gerard Gallant for the job.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:26 PM ET
They aren’t mathematically eliminated! 🤡
- PLindbergh31


No they are not but with this loss and a potential BOS win. We might have the same odds as wining a Lottery jackpot than the Flyers have making the playoffs.

Flyers have 15 games left
Boston has 18 games left

Boston also plays BUF 6 more times. As fans we have realistically gauge our probabilities. Playoffs are a miracle at this point.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Apr 11 @ 5:27 PM ET
Yea your right Claude, Snider watching this from above
- Landsbergfan

What he say now ? Something actually new?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:27 PM ET
It's not unfair. While it's certainly not ideal, if you followed AV's time in NY and Van, this last month+ are very similar to what lead to his firing in both places. That's not excusing the players from this mess, changes need to be made in that regard too.....but this is more than just making a few mistakes or unlucky bounces or covid. The personnel choices, failure to adjust poor defensive zone play, special teams etc, are all issues he's been heavily criticized for in the past. Even now, everyone says fire the assistants, yet AV chose them specifically and gave them their roles. Given AV'S history, the red flags are flying everywhere.

As far as your question goes, if a replacement is needed, I would approach Gerard Gallant for the job.

- Flyerfan2868

Meh, show me a coach that will get everything out of this roster and then I’ll be worried about AV. There’s only so much you can do with the players you have and these guys have burned through more coaches than anyone in the league
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Apr 11 @ 5:28 PM ET
It's not unfair. While it's certainly not ideal, if you followed AV's time in NY and Van, this last month+ are very similar to what lead to his firing in both places. That's not excusing the players from this mess, changes need to be made in that regard too.....but this is more than just making a few mistakes or unlucky bounces or covid. The personnel choices, failure to adjust poor defensive zone play, special teams etc, are all issues he's been heavily criticized for in the past. Even now, everyone says fire the assistants, yet AV chose them specifically and gave them their roles. Given AV'S history, the red flags are flying everywhere.

As far as your question goes, if a replacement is needed, I would approach Gerard Gallant for the job.

- Flyerfan2868

Pretty good assessment on AV
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