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robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
anyways we were robbed of a healthy eichel playing with hall under a coach that didn't destroy his players

what could have been
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Apr 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
I'll suck his john if he wants. Best player to come through here since Gilbert. And you want to throw all the blame on him


We've had guys come in who have been MVPS of the LEAGUE and gotten 2 goals. Meanwhile Jack still almost puts up a ppg while having multiple injuries.

He has not been the problem

- DirtyDan

Maybe Jack is the problem because he isn't the solution
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Apr 12 @ 11:38 AM ET
I mentioned this a few days ago.

Hall was spotted at the boston airport. Maybe Wednesday?

2nd round pick is good value.
Probably gonna be a mid 2nd rounder when the bruins get eliminated early

- Boss34


He’s driving to Boston today
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:38 AM ET
The whole UFA thing keeps slipping your mind doesn't it?
- Stripes77


It doesnt though. You said Buffalo could only get value because Hall would only go to Boston and they knew it.

If Eichel will only go to NYR why would the rangers give up anything of value to get him.

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 12 @ 11:38 AM ET
I can't compete with your 10 weeks of wisdom
- homiedclown


Wow you've been here longer soo that makes you smarter


Your blaming a franchises problems on the cornerstone of the franchise.

I love this team but god are Sabres fans frankin dumb.

Reading your thoughts is worse than actually having to hear you people complain in person
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Apr 12 @ 11:38 AM ET
Maybe Jack is the problem because he isn't the solution
- chilliard77



Jack is the coverup for all the problems.


Once jack was gone .... the team still played the game the same way.


Ralph was the cancer. It’s pretty clear
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
Maybe Jack is the problem because he isn't the solution
- chilliard77


I too enjoy blaming the franchise player for the ineptitude of the organization.

May I partake with burning Eichel at the stake?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
Yikes it's over with we got a 2nd, 3rd ,5th for free



TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
It doesnt though. You said Buffalo could only get value because Hall would only go to Boston and they knew it.

If Eichel will only go to NYR why would the rangers give up anything of value to get him.

- ImThatGuy


Because if the Rangers want him NOW in his prime, vs 5 years from now when he's a UFA, then they would have to pony up something of value to convince the Sabres to pull the trigger

How is this a hard concept to understand?
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
He is comparing apples to like i said earlier potatoes

No where near the same scenario

- Stripes77


You're being too kind. Both of those are foods
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Apr 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
Just curious, is our new borkie more of a rw or Lw? He’s listed as both on the cap friendly...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
It doesnt though. You said Buffalo could only get value because Hall would only go to Boston and they knew it.

If Eichel will only go to NYR why would the rangers give up anything of value to get him.

- ImThatGuy



It clearly is

You don't have to trade Eichel

You have him signed for 5 more years

I cannot stress this enough, you're comparing two completely different things, the players, their contracts, their clauses, etc

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
62
78
71
90
27 (injury, still a PPG)
97



56
57
64
82
78
18 (injury)

First 6 years, each.


Guess who is who. If you're calling Eichel a "superstar", then Dennis Maruk certainly is too. His 7th year he had 60 goals and 136 points. You think Jack is on that pace next year?

You were proven wrong.

- Powerslave

ok, what was the scoring in the nhl then vs now



please take the time to post where they each stood at the end of the year in rankings


year 1, maruk tied for 62
https://www.hockey-refere...katers.html#stats::points


year 2
maruk 20th

https://www.hockey-refere...katers.html#stats::points



year 3

tied for 30th
https://www.hockey-refere...katers.html#stats::points


year 4
11th

https://www.hockey-refere...katers.html#stats::points


year 5 he was injured


year 6
13th

https://www.hockey-refere...katers.html#stats::points




so during that first 6 years


he was what, 30th in scoring?




gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
It doesnt though. You said Buffalo could only get value because Hall would only go to Boston and they knew it.

If Eichel will only go to NYR why would the rangers give up anything of value to get him.

- ImThatGuy


Then they will have to wait when his contract is up then
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
Let's see a little more cleaning done today, maybe Adams uses a little of this new cap space to grab another piece 3rd party wise. See how this deadline finishes.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
You're being too kind. Both of those are foods
- SDSabre



Apples to tires a little better?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:41 AM ET
Because if the Rangers want him NOW in his prime, vs 4 years from now when he's a UFA, then they would have to pony up something of value to convince the Sabres to pull the trigger

How is this a hard concept to understand?

- TheGame316


But he is having a down year and is injured.

Has a hefty contract that NUR have to take on. If Eichel doesn’t work out (These boards say he’s not that good) NY is saddled with a terrible contract.


More negative value.

I’m using all the logic that has been applied to Hall.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Apr 12 @ 11:41 AM ET
I too enjoy blaming the franchise player for the ineptitude of the organization.

May I partake with burning Eichel at the stake?

- TheSabresTaco

Bring your pitchfork, I've already lit my torch
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:41 AM ET
Then they will have to wait when his contract is up then
- gerbe75pts



Exactly

When asked if Adams approached him with other teams Hall said "I don't want to get into that"

Hall wanted to be a Bruin
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
It clearly is

You don't have to trade Eichel

You have him signed for 5 more years

I cannot stress this enough, you're comparing two completely different things, the players, their contracts, their clauses, etc

- Stripes77


If he only wants to go to one team, why would said team give up anything for him regardless of contract, age, skill etc.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
I'll suck his john if he wants. Best player to come through here since Gilbert. And you want to throw all the blame on him


We've had guys come in who have been MVPS of the LEAGUE and gotten 2 goals. Meanwhile Jack still almost puts up a ppg while having multiple injuries.

He has not been the problem

- DirtyDan

he's not the second best sabre ever


could not hold dom or lafontaines jock strap

but raise them pom poms high and proud
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
Maybe Jack is the problem because he isn't the solution
- chilliard77


If you think ONE player is a solution your just as dumb as Terry saying Hall was our missing piece.

ITS NEVER ONE PLAYER. This is the gosh darn NHL not NBA. You cant have Lebron come through and take your team to the championship every year.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
But he is having a down year and is injured.

Has a hefty contract that NUR have to take on. If Eichel doesn’t work out (These boards say he’s not that good) NY is saddled with a terrible contract.


More negative value.

I’m using all the logic that has been applied to Hall.

- ImThatGuy


The only logic you need with Hall is that you trade him now for something or he walks in a month for Nothing, and he gets a say in both those scenarios

You get to keep Jack for 5 more years if you don't get an offer you like
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
If he only wants to go to one team, why would said team give up anything for him regardless of contract, age, skill etc.
- ImThatGuy


i mean, it would get to the point where you just dont trade him

if hall has all the leverage and boston knows it, and will only offer a 5th round pick you just say no lol
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
he's not the second best sabre ever


could not hold dom or lafontaines jock strap

but raise them pom poms high and proud

- homiedclown


He is literally the most talented player out of any of those guys.


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