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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:12 AM ET
John Shannon
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On background, Taylor Hall apparently did have options. Throughout the process, Kevyn Adams did present other opportunities to Hall...Taylor chose to go to Boston.

- Stripes77

We all know Hall chose. We knew it was his choice when we signed him.

The Sabres are never forced to do anything

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
for a guy who constantly (and rightfully) brings up how barrasso was run out of town, flaming on jack is exactly what's happening here
- Michael Pachla

barrasso had 2 great years as a sabre though

which trumps jack's one great year
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
never said that...but this isn't basketball where a true superstar can take a team far...

jack's been in a sh!tshow ever since his sophomore season...and even that began with a freak injury that kept him out of the first seven weeks of the season

- Michael Pachla


Edmonton has both McDavid and Draisatil and they have one playoff appearance in the same time frame.

Eichel, McDavid, and Leon have a combined one playoff appearance.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
Ok, then no trade.

Adams caved the day before the deadline

Boston wanted him so bad since the offseason that the Sabres needed to basically do whatever they asked to make it work?

- sbroads24



it is okay to change your opinion when presented with new information
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
Ok, then no trade.

Adams caved the day before the deadline

Boston wanted him so bad since the offseason that the Sabres needed to basically do whatever they asked to make it work?

- sbroads24



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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 12 @ 11:14 AM ET
agreed


but now we are calling Maruk who was 56 points behind the flower and 20th in scoring a top 10 player in the nhl when we had guys like robinson, potvin etc on the blue line and dryden in net


side note don edwards made the second all star team that year, and maruk didn't sniff the all star team list

https://www.hockey-refere...com/leagues/NHL_1978.html

- homiedclown


don't count me in on that...had (still have?) a maruk rookie card (need to check if it's a Barons/Seals combo
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:14 AM ET
so you keep a player who'll walk at the end of the season?....to prove what, exactly?
- Michael Pachla

which is why I move ullmark and if I can't move him, let him sit on the pine more and let 6k get a few starts
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:14 AM ET
it is okay to change your opinion when presented with new information
- robz228

Rick Nash forced a trade to the NYR.

Players do this all the time. Its why they haev NMC's

Value is still somewhat good.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 12 @ 11:15 AM ET
Craig Rivet is the F)(* worst.

Hed rather play Tokarski over UPL because UPL needs the minors treatment.

- ImThatGuy

i would too...upl needs a lot of work...needs to stick with rochester and get better
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 12 @ 11:15 AM ET
how does he get a pass?



this is a historic failure IMO

- homiedclown


So you expect him to put up Gretzky numbers because thats the only way we get to the playoffs with the teams hes had....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:15 AM ET
don't count me in on that...had (still have?) a maruk rookie card (need to check if it's a Barons/Seals combo
- Michael Pachla

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:15 AM ET
Eichel for a first, third and a B prospect.

He's not that good anyway.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:15 AM ET
Rick Nash forced a trade to the NYR.

Players do this all the time. Its why they haev NMC's

Value is still somewhat good.

- ImThatGuy


they got a 2nd round pick for a guy with 2 goals who had a 1 team list
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 12 @ 11:16 AM ET
Edmonton has both McDavid and Draisatil and they have one playoff appearance in the same time frame.

Eichel, McDavid, and Leon have a combined one playoff appearance.

- Pegullaville

agreed...and there's a big difference between having another driver of play like draisatl is for mcjesus and a complimentary like skunk riding jack's coattails
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:16 AM ET
i would too...upl needs a lot of work...needs to stick with rochester and get better
- Michael Pachla



From what I have read (I haven't seen) UPL would be in the Coast if they would have played

He hasn't been good at all
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:16 AM ET
So then let him walk for nothing and you'll be losing your mind about it?

Come on now

- Stripes77

No, get Hall to waive to go somewhere else, or get Boston to offer more.

Act like a competent organization

Don't get fleeced, don't add salary to the bottom 6 that has that issue already

Or would you totally be cool with a 5th rounder because the Sabres just had no control and it was all on Boston and Hall?

I mean if that's the case why didn't Boston just get him for nothing ? They obviously thought it was possible he'd go elsewhere to offer anything in the first place, right?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:16 AM ET
So you expect him to put up Gretzky numbers because thats the only way we get to the playoffs with the teams hes had....
- DirtyDan

I expected more then 1 great season (last year) from the face of the franchise and at least competing for a playoff spot after 6 years



which should be a REALISTIC expectation



homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:17 AM ET
From what I have read (I haven't seen) UPL would be in the Coast if they would have played

He hasn't been good at all

- Stripes77

terrible the other night
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 12 @ 11:17 AM ET
Getting good in here today
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:18 AM ET
No, get Hall to waive to go somewhere else, or get Boston to offer more.

Act like a competent organization

Don't get fleeced, don't add salary to the bottom 6 that has that issue already

Or would you totally be cool with a 5th rounder because the Sabres just had no control and it was all on Boston and Hall?

I mean if that's the case why didn't Boston just get him for nothing ? They obviously thought it was possible he'd go elsewhere to offer anything in the first place, right?

- sbroads24


come on man we were having a spirited debate where you were making a great case against this trade before

now youre grasping for air
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 12 @ 11:18 AM ET
No, get Hall to waive to go somewhere else, or get Boston to offer more.

Act like a competent organization

Don't get fleeced, don't add salary to the bottom 6 that has that issue already

Or would you totally be cool with a 5th rounder because the Sabres just had no control and it was all on Boston and Hall?

I mean if that's the case why didn't Boston just get him for nothing ? They obviously thought it was possible he'd go elsewhere to offer anything in the first place, right?

- sbroads24

it's not that easy...and where'd this 5th round pick come from?
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 12 @ 11:18 AM ET
Getting good in here today
- Buff36


Buckle up
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 12 @ 11:18 AM ET
really, did you not watch the sabres with Hasek?
- homiedclown



That is literally the only position that can be said about that. And even then its not like those teams were this bad... or Carey Price carrying Montreal to a CC... That team wasn't as bad as the past 6 we've had.

You can try and blame Eichs all you want but hes been nearly a ppg player on this horrid franchise. This is a team sport not tennis or golf.


Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
No, get Hall to waive to go somewhere else, or get Boston to offer more.

Act like a competent organization

Don't get fleeced, don't add salary to the bottom 6 that has that issue already

Or would you totally be cool with a 5th rounder because the Sabres just had no control and it was all on Boston and Hall?

I mean if that's the case why didn't Boston just get him for nothing ? They obviously thought it was possible he'd go elsewhere to offer anything in the first place, right?

- sbroads24



Like I said, Adams had better offers but Hall wouldn't waive

So you make the most of it

If you don't trade him you look like an even bigger laughing stock around the league.

You want to bash Adams go for it, but to act like the Sabres had any leverage here is funny.

This isn't they didn't pay a roster bonus because they were being cheap.

It's the one tool the players have in their arsenal

Hall was going to be a Bruin because that's what he wanted and the Bruins still paid a 2nd round pick for a guy who has 2 freaking goals this year
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:20 AM ET
Getting good in here today
- Buff36

I am just waiting for more people comparing maruk to lafleur, trottier, bossy, clarke, espo, perreault etc


I mean danny gare had 10 percent more points then maruk that year


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