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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:26 PM ET
Yes, it makes them a better team and I think it would certainly give them more wins. Just look at the games in April so far. I think they have been playing better, but they aren't getting the consistent scoring. With a guy like Pasta this team may have 5 more wins this year. Oh, and that's not to mention their shoot out issues. I mean, how many points do they throw away a season with all their shoot out losses. To your other point, no, it doesn't clear up all their other warts. They need a legit #1 pairing defender to play with Provorov and I think this team's most glaring need is more physical/speedier forwards to play the type of system that AV wants them to play(that's why I wasn't happy that they let Pitlick go).
- Phillywhiteout


So we agree it doesn't actually fix most of the problems, but how do you know the Flyers don't lose 5 more games instead of winning them? Can't always think in absolutes when there are so many unknown factors.

I mean Buffalo added Hall (39 in 17-18) this past season to have a scorer with Eichel. 3 years ago they added Skinner (40 goals in 18-19) to add goal scoring depth. I mean do the Flyers have any former 40 goal scorers? It didn't seem to help Buffalo win more.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
Make it a great game!

Let’s go Flyers!

- NC Flyers Fan


Please. And no ridiculous calls on Sam just cause he’s huge and mean.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
Hopefully laughtons a scratch
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:33 PM ET
Hopefully laughtons a scratch
- Just5

and jake
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:36 PM ET
My predictions suck? Here’s one. We lose 6-2 today. Let’s see how bad I suck
- SMS4016

you bore me
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 10 @ 12:36 PM ET
Please. And no ridiculous calls on Sam just cause he’s huge and mean.
- Peter Richards


Exactly, it’s hockey

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:37 PM ET
Only player that comes to mind and moves the needle for me is Patrick Kane. That guy literally controls the pace and play of every shift.
- BroadSTmayhem


Some players, like Kane, can do that for a team, but the cost of that player is team altering.

My point being is I don't understand how some think a simple addition or even subtraction changes this team, it hasn't in the past. This teams needs a full evaluation from top to bottom, which I thought was the point of bringing Fletcher in. I am not necessarily talking about a full tear down, but someone needs to make some decisions quick.

What kind of system does the coach want to play and is that coach right for the job?

Does the team have the right players to play that way?

What does fit and what doesn't?

Are they drafting players for how they want the team's identity to be or are they just going full safe mode hoping they just get guys that can make the roster?

Do they have players that fill a variety of roles or are they just interchangeable?

Why can't simple questions the team has had for years and years like how come the team consistently has stretches where they look absolutely flat and why are the players unable to correct that?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 10 @ 12:37 PM ET
Trent Frederick is a a typical Bruins punk! Morin should plant him into the 4th row right after he plants Marchand!
- jd250


Trent didn’t seem to have any interest with Sam. Maybe too big who knows. Seemed like a little less jabber from them when he was in. There was a scrum in front of the net. Sam grabbed Trent. Trent just looked around searching for flies.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 10 @ 12:41 PM ET
"Ellie!!! They still want an American to go!"

Can anyone tell me what movie this is from without googling it?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:41 PM ET
"Ellie!!! They still want an American to go!"

Can anyone tell me what movie this is from without googling it?

- DrMidnite


Jaws
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 10 @ 12:42 PM ET
Jaws
- Glak18


No
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 10 @ 12:43 PM ET
So we agree it doesn't actually fix most of the problems, but how do you know the Flyers don't lose 5 more games instead of winning them? Can't always think in absolutes when there are so many unknown factors.

I mean Buffalo added Hall (39 in 17-18) this past season to have a scorer with Eichel. 3 years ago they added Skinner (40 goals in 18-19) to add goal scoring depth. I mean do the Flyers have any former 40 goal scorers? It didn't seem to help Buffalo win more.

- Glak18
Not sure Skinner and Hall are very good examples especially this year. They were signed to be scorers and I think they have a grand total of 4 goals between them this year. I assumed when you mentioned that the Flyers added a scorer that he would actually score. You mentioned Pasta and he is a pretty consistent scorer. I think that a guy like that would make you a better team and add a few to the win column.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:44 PM ET
"Ellie!!! They still want an American to go!"

Can anyone tell me what movie this is from without googling it?

- DrMidnite

contact
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 10 @ 12:45 PM ET
contact
- KINGKENZO


BOOM! Good call KingKenzo.

I love this movie.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:46 PM ET
BOOM! Good call KingKenzo.

I love this movie.

- DrMidnite

I do too....really good cast
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 10 @ 12:48 PM ET
I do too....really good cast
- KINGKENZO


Jake Busey very scary as the religious nut too.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:48 PM ET
BOOM! Good call KingKenzo.

I love this movie.

- DrMidnite

"first rule of government spending, why build one when you build two at twice the cost"
hahaha
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 10 @ 12:49 PM ET
"first rule of government spending, why build one when you build two at twice the cost
hahaha

- KINGKENZO


Lol, yep!

I love when the camera clicks to Hokkaido and then you see the second machine.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:51 PM ET
No
- DrMidnite


Jurassic Park
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 10 @ 12:53 PM ET
Jurassic Park
- Glak18


Yes
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:56 PM ET
Not sure Skinner and Hall are very good examples especially this year. They were signed to be scorers and I think they have a grand total of 4 goals between them this year. I assumed when you mentioned that the Flyers added a scorer that he would actually score. You mentioned Pasta and he is a pretty consistent scorer. I think that a guy like that would make you a better team and add a few to the win column.
- Phillywhiteout


Do you think Buffalo would of re-signed Skinner to that huge deal if they knew he wouldn't be scoring or would they sign Hall if they knew he would only have 2 goals? I would bet they were pretty positive a 40 goal scorer would do that again or close when they offered him that much money.



Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:56 PM ET
Yes
- DrMidnite


Knew it!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:57 PM ET
Please. And no ridiculous calls on Sam just cause he’s huge and mean.
- Peter Richards


I'm still mad about that.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Apr 10 @ 12:58 PM ET
Trent didn’t seem to have any interest with Sam. Maybe too big who knows. Seemed like a little less jabber from them when he was in. There was a scrum in front of the net. Sam grabbed Trent. Trent just looked around searching for flies.
- Peter Richards


A few weeks ago he took on Tom Wilson with no hesitation. As for not being too eager to take on Morin, I suspect after seeing the clip of Sam knocking down Ross Johnston, not many players would be too eager to fight him.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
I'm still mad about that.
- Hextall271


Imo the refs have been horrible this year.
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