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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 10 @ 11:22 AM ET
Blues look like they're back in business. They beat Minny 9-1 last night. Schwartz scored 2 goals. They're likely buyers. But Armstrong has been known to be a buyer and seller simultaneously.
- gergeswillems


tied in games with Arizona and only 3 points out of a playoff spot. i can't see them being big time sellers.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 10 @ 11:24 AM ET
I think Lebrun or Friedman said he’s expected to start skating in the next few days, I’m not sure though.

They’ve got two sets of connected decisions: do they have confidence that he is going to be able to come back and play well and, if so, how do they finance whatever moves they want to make without his $5M.

- Canada Cup


Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't they LTIR him back to when the injury first started if they decide to do that?

Also, I think the goalie insurance is just someone like Ulmark or Dubnyk. Just someone who can be more consistent than Hutchinson.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 10 @ 11:25 AM ET
Also, I think Dubas should make his move this weekend if cap space permits (I think that's all he is waiting for) this way he gets whichever player started early with the quarantine.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 10 @ 11:27 AM ET
Believe me. Dermott is better than Merrill.
- gergeswillems


Dermott puts up pretty good #’s, but they only like those #’s if they suit.

🤷🏻‍♂️
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 10 @ 11:28 AM ET
tied in games with Arizona and only 3 points out of a playoff spot. i can't see them being big time sellers.
- Aaron_85


Agreed
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 10 @ 11:30 AM ET
Schwartz would cost a bit too I think, he’s pretty awesome.
- Garnie

1st, 2nd + prospect at least, probably more (e.g. Sandin + 1st+ something). Don't see Leafs giving that Up.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 10 @ 11:32 AM ET
I don't think Bergy or Therrien made Gally a cokehead. But it seems like Gally has turned his life around so good for him. I didn't think it was a good trade by Dubas. But so far he's proving me wrong.
- gergeswillems


The athletic had a good write up on him. Explained a lot if his downfall which was highlighted by how he was treated in MTL. Most(especially in that time) did coke. I have a friend who played in the OHL/NHL/AHL back in his day. The amount of coke flowing around was crazy...no idea what its like now but whatever was up with gally was more than being addicted to coke.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 10 @ 11:34 AM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't they LTIR him back to when the injury first started if they decide to do that?

Also, I think the goalie insurance is just someone like Ulmark or Dubnyk. Just someone who can be more consistent than Hutchinson.

- Aaron_85


It was retroactive. The summary I saw says basically they can add $5.8M, but lose $5M of that if Freddie comes off the injured list. Obviously if there are $5M worth of injuries between now and then, he can come off. He can also come off once the playoffs start.

So they have lots of options. They can use Freddie’s injury money, keep him on the list and definitely add getting a goalie to the shopping list. Freddie could then come off at the start of playoffs or earlier depending on other injuries.

Alternatively, they could find move to $ out, use third teams, etc to make a deal happen. Depending on how much they do, adding a goalie may or may not be feasible.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 10 @ 11:34 AM ET
I'm not willing to be too swayed by the sweetheart piece in the Athletic. Galchenyuk chose cocaine and party life over his professional obligations and his coaches (and I would imagine a significant number of leaders on his team) took exception to his lack of dedication and focus.

His talent and potential is what saved him from being bounced already. He has an opportunity now to reclaim his career and become something decent again. He's young enough that he could still have a few good years - but he made his bed earlier and should own up to it rather than have his agent try a PR move and deflect from him taking responsibility and growing from the past.

- Monkeypunk


Seriously where is this proven? Most players at that age are partying and using coke all the time. Galchenyuk is just a guy who's game fell off while others just like him didnt.

Just because Galchenyuk openly did something about it doesn't mean there aren't guys out there just like him who didnt openly do anything about it.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 10 @ 11:34 AM ET
1st, 2nd + prospect at least, probably more (e.g. Sandin + 1st+ something). Don't see Leafs giving that Up.
- MaximusAurelius


Who knows, i forgot he’s been hampered with some injuries.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Apr 10 @ 11:37 AM ET
Depends on how much $$ they are absorbing.

Leafs got a 5th for $190k of Lehner.

Hall will be closer to $500k.

- The Law

look at the nyi and njd deal.

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Apr 10 @ 11:38 AM ET
Adidas.ca have deals on Leafs jerseys:

https://www.adidas.ca/en/nhl-toronto_maple_leafs

$120 for blanks (regular $200) and $150 with name and number (regular $250).

winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 10 @ 11:39 AM ET
Under the radar move : Schwartz
- burn



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVz1kBnIDd0
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 10 @ 11:39 AM ET
Seriously where is this proven? Most players at that age are partying and using coke all the time. Galchenyuk is just a guy who's game fell off while others just like him didnt.
- Santo_44


Not most players, and definitely not all the time..
During the off season maybe.
The Galchenyuk issues were mainly his own fault
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 10 @ 11:43 AM ET
Not most players, and definitely not all the time..
During the off season maybe.
The Galchenyuk issues were mainly his own fault

- MaximusAurelius


You are way wrong on this one.

In galchenyuks age group I have cold hard facts of many coke stories. I have a friend who partaked in many of these stories. It was rampant back then and I'd bet a lot of money it still is.

Players party a lot. Especially the young guys. During the season.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 10 @ 11:46 AM ET
It was retroactive. The summary I saw says basically they can add $5.8M, but lose $5M of that if Freddie comes off the injured list. Obviously if there are $5M worth of injuries between now and then, he can come off. He can also come off once the playoffs start.

So they have lots of options. They can use Freddie’s injury money, keep him on the list and definitely add getting a goalie to the shopping list. Freddie could then come off at the start of playoffs or earlier depending on other injuries.

Alternatively, they could find move to $ out, use third teams, etc to make a deal happen. Depending on how much they do, adding a goalie may or may not be feasible.

- Canada Cup



Having said all that, Keefe today, “there’s no timetable to the injury. It’s really a question of Fred being comfortable with where he’s at and how’s he’s feeling.”
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 10 @ 11:47 AM ET
You are way wrong on this one.

In galchenyuks age group I have cold hard facts of many coke stories. I have a friend who partaked in many of these stories. It was rampant back then and I'd bet a lot of money it still is.

Players party a lot. Especially the young guys. During the season.

- Santo_44


'Many' is 25%+ of all players.
Not 10-20 guys
And definitely not top5-10 drafted guys (except for a few exceptions)
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Apr 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
You are way wrong on this one.

In galchenyuks age group I have cold hard facts of many coke stories. I have a friend who partaked in many of these stories. It was rampant back then and I'd bet a lot of money it still is.

Players party a lot. Especially the young guys. During the season.

- Santo_44


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PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 11.07.2015

Apr 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
Adidas.ca have deals on Leafs jerseys:

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$120 for blanks (regular $200) and $150 with name and number (regular $250).

- Atomic Wedgie

Was looking for St. Pats jersey and stumpled upon this site. But they've also got Marner, Matthews and Tavares in home and away. $110.

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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
'Many' is 25%+ of all players.
Not 10-20 guys
And definitely not top5-10 drafted guys (except for a few exceptions)

- MaximusAurelius

Sorry man you are way wrong.

I have no idea about how it is now but the guys who are now 27-28(Gally to Kadris age group did 1000%. and no when I say most I mean most. NHLers party a lot except for the ones with kids.

Only guy I know that didnt was JT.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 10 @ 11:55 AM ET
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- mr.sir

Willy probably operated on 2 hours of sleep for every hockey night in Canada game his first few years in the NHL
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Apr 10 @ 12:15 PM ET
You are way wrong on this one.

In galchenyuks age group I have cold hard facts of many coke stories. I have a friend who partaked in many of these stories. It was rampant back then and I'd bet a lot of money it still is.

Players party a lot. Especially the young guys. During the season.

- Santo_44


There are stories and lots of guys who get caught up in it. Most of those guys end up being the never weres. I don't think the guys who want to be elite are being distracted by that lifestyle and they are certainly not immersing themselves in it whole (frank)ing hog like Galchenyuk did. It's one of the many things that set them apart. I don't think Crosby, MacKinnon, McDavid, Matthews et al are coke fiends.

But let's say you're right and let's say that just about everyone does it all the time and it's rampant and no one talks about it.

How much (frank)ing coke do you have to be doing for the rest of the league to say, "Jesus, dude. Slow down. You are becoming a problem." ?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Apr 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
Adidas.ca have deals on Leafs jerseys:

https://www.adidas.ca/en/nhl-toronto_maple_leafs

$120 for blanks (regular $200) and $150 with name and number (regular $250).

- Atomic Wedgie



Why are the reverse retros the only ones that are full price? I had to go buy a smaller monitor just so I could read the logo on the front.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 10 @ 12:24 PM ET
There are stories and lots of guys who get caught up in it. Most of those guys end up being the never weres. I don't think the guys who want to be elite are being distracted by that lifestyle and they are certainly not immersing themselves in it whole (frank)ing hog like Galchenyuk did. It's one of the many things that set them apart. I don't think Crosby, MacKinnon, McDavid, Matthews et al are coke fiends.

But let's say you're right and let's say that just about everyone does it all the time and it's rampant and no one talks about it.

How much (frank)ing coke do you have to be doing for the rest of the league to say, "Jesus, dude. Slow down. You are becoming a problem." ?

- Monkeypunk


I dont know if they are. but stars like them were into it 6-7 years ago so id imagine its completely possible they are now.

There is a complete misconception about athletes amongst fans. They think they go to bed at 10PM every night not having any fun thinking only hockey for 9 straight months. Its completely false...Most of these guys have a blast when they aren't playing or practicing and deservedly so.

"If You Can't Play Hockey Hungover, You Probably Shouldn't Be In The League" - Ryan Reaves
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
I dont know if they are. but stars like them were into it 6-7 years ago so id imagine its completely possible they are now.

There is a complete misconception about athletes amongst fans. They think they go to bed at 10PM every night not having any fun thinking only hockey for 9 straight months. Its completely false...Most of these guys have a blast when they aren't playing or practicing and deservedly so.

- Santo_44


There are still drug tests and it takes 48hrs+ for cocaine and mdma to be cleared from the system.
I'm not saying there aren't quite some young players that use cocaine on a regular basis, but not every night..
And the 'deservedly so' is off - galchenyuk didn't play up to his abilities bc of his substance abuse - so there was no reason at all to put any blame with habs organization.
(I mention the drug tests bc nhl has a great case if concussions come up and nhlpa comes at them again - substance abuse can attribute as well to physical and health damage)
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