Detroit, SJ and Chicago will all be picking assets for cap space by the TDL.
- winsix

Yeah I could see Yzerman taking half of Taylor Hall's 8 mil cap hit for a draft pick or prospect.

If Foligno wants to go back to Columbus or they want to keep him, then they probably don't trade him . . . but he's a UFA at the end of the year and they're not going anywhere. Even a crappy return is better than no return.

It's funny, because I look at the names floated (guys with 1 year or 2 years left on rebuilding teams) . . . The only deal that makes sense if Freddy is truly injured and moving to LTIR for the remainder of the regular season is I circle back to Foligno + Savard + Korpisalo. That's an assload of cap (5.5 + 4.2 + 2.6) - 12.5m. You can't fit that under Andersen's 5m LTIR. We'd have to overpay to get them to retain 50% and bounce it to a 3rd party (like the mentioned Chicago) who then retains more than 30% and up to 50% of the remaining $6.25m for more picks.

We probably send a 1st, an A prospect, and a B prospect to Columbus, and then a 3rd or 4th to Chicago for the retention . . .


Edit: I probably shouldn't say the ONLY deal, but if Fred's truly injured, we're going to need a G, we want to strengthen the LW and D positions . . .so this works.
- Monkeypunk

I think Foligno is one of the players Leafs are looking at, Savard might be a stretch but if it can be done great. Doubt there is any chance for Korpisalo. Dell from NJ would be a cheap easy add for insurance in goal.

Yeah I could see Yzerman taking half of Taylor Hall's 8 mil cap hit for a draft pick or prospect.
- gergeswillems

in the past, that draft pick was a 5th rnd pick.

in the past, that draft pick was a 5th rnd pick.
- dmnted

We will throw in Bracco and Frattin.

I think Foligno is one of the players Leafs are looking at, Savard might be a stretch but if it can be done great. Doubt there is any chance for Korpisalo. Dell from NJ would be a cheap easy add for insurance in goal.
- winsix

I'll admit that I really don't like Dell. He is, as you say, insurance, and he'd likely be exceptionally cheap - like a conditional 7th that never comes to fruition.

I think Savard is also a stretch - but I started thinking about how nice it would be to have him playing instead of Dermott!

Something I was just thinking about . . . with Nash out until the playoffs, and him moving directly onto LTIR, we can still maximize our available cap to the cap ceiling, and then use Nash's $2.75 on LTIR against our deadline space, so we have a bit more room by acquiring him, don't we?

in the past, that draft pick was a 5th rnd pick.
- dmnted

Depends on how much $$ they are absorbing.

Leafs got a 5th for $190k of Lehner.

Hall will be closer to $500k.

I'll admit that I really don't like Dell. He is, as you say, insurance, and he'd likely be exceptionally cheap - like a conditional 7th that never comes to fruition.

I think Savard is also a stretch - but I started thinking about how nice it would be to have him playing instead of Dermott!

Something I was just thinking about . . . with Nash out until the playoffs, and him moving directly onto LTIR, we can still maximize our available cap to the cap ceiling, and then use Nash's $2.75 on LTIR against our deadline space, so we have a bit more room by acquiring him, don't we?
- Monkeypunk

Yes.

If Foligno wants to go back to Columbus or they want to keep him, then they probably don't trade him . . . but he's a UFA at the end of the year and they're not going anywhere. Even a crappy return is better than no return.

It's funny, because I look at the names floated (guys with 1 year or 2 years left on rebuilding teams) . . . The only deal that makes sense if Freddy is truly injured and moving to LTIR for the remainder of the regular season is I circle back to Foligno + Savard + Korpisalo. That's an assload of cap (5.5 + 4.2 + 2.6) - 12.5m. You can't fit that under Andersen's 5m LTIR. We'd have to overpay to get them to retain 50% and bounce it to a 3rd party (like the mentioned Chicago) who then retains more than 30% and up to 50% of the remaining $6.25m for more picks.

We probably send a 1st, an A prospect, and a B prospect to Columbus, and then a 3rd or 4th to Chicago for the retention . . .

Edit: I probably shouldn't say the ONLY deal, but if Fred's truly injured, we're going to need a G, we want to strengthen the LW and D positions . . .so this works.
- Monkeypunk

That makes some sense but leafs need a cheap serviceable d man not the best D in the market. Id say the leafs need either one top 6 or two top 9 forwards. I think it'll be guys we rarely talk about on here. Dubas seems to keep it quiet on players he is actually interested in.

A guy like Jon Merill who is barely talked about...I see the Leafs getting him for a 4th.

That makes some sense but leafs need a cheap serviceable d man not the best D in the market. Id say the leafs need either one top 6 or two top 9 forwards. I think it'll be guys we rarely talk about on here. Dubas seems to keep it quiet on players he is actually interested in.
- Santo_44

Look for former Soo Greyhounds.

Merrill likely gets a 5th. He's not very good.

in the past, that draft pick was a 5th rnd pick.
- dmnted

I'll take it. I trust Yzerman and Verbeek's drafting over Holland and Tyler Wright.

Look for former Soo Greyhounds.

Merrill likely gets a 5th. He's not very good.
- gergeswillems

I think Dubas likes getting players that he knows are good people.

It may be hard to believe but there are a lot of poopty people out there that are a complete pain in the ass to work with.

I think Dubas likes getting players that he knows are good people.

It may be hard to believe but there are a lot of poopty people out there that are a complete pain in the ass to work with.
- Santo_44

Character definitely matters. But it's still mostly about talent. That's why a guy like Galchenyuk can use up his 9 lives. The talent was always there. If he wasn't talented he would've been out of the NHL years ago.

That makes some sense but leafs need a cheap serviceable d man not the best D in the market. Id say the leafs need either one top 6 or two top 9 forwards. I think it'll be guys we rarely talk about on here. Dubas seems to keep it quiet on players he is actually interested in.

A guy like Jon Merill who is barely talked about...I see the Leafs getting him for a 4th.
- Santo_44

Yeah, if he were predictable he'd be less fun!

Merrill is not a bad option that I can think of. I don't know if he's that much of an improvement on Dermott. I'd defer to you and gerges for that type of information.

A lot of the moves in the next couple days depend on Fred's health until the end of the season.

Yeah, if he were predictable he'd be less fun!

Merrill is not a bad option that I can think of. I don't know if he's that much of an improvement on Dermott. I'd defer to you and gerges for that type of information.

A lot of the moves in the next couple days depend on Fred's health until the end of the season.
- Monkeypunk

Believe me. Dermott is better than Merrill.

Character definitely matters. But it's still mostly about talent. That's why a guy like Galchenyuk can use up his 9 lives. The talent was always there. If he wasn't talented he would've been out of the NHL years ago.
- gergeswillems

from what I've read he is a really good guy and that Therrian and Bargavin were complete asses to him.

Maybe he went through a rough time but so did Lehner. There is a difference between a person going through a rough time and a person just being incredibly hard to work with.

Jenner Savard and Anderson
for
Nylander and Dermott
🤔

from what I've read he is a really good guy and that Therrian and Bargavin were complete asses to him.

Maybe he went through a rough time but so did Lehner. There is a difference between a person going through a rough time and a person just being incredibly hard to work with.
- Santo_44

I don't think Bergy or Therrien made Gally a cokehead. But it seems like Gally has turned his life around so good for him. I didn't think it was a good trade by Dubas. But so far he's proving me wrong.

Look for former Soo Greyhounds.

Merrill likely gets a 5th. He's not very good.
- gergeswillems

Dubas was there from 2011 to 2014. Here are the names I know are in the NHL.

Colin Miller
Darnell Nurse
Gudbranson

So what you suggest is we're getting Darnell Nurse

I feel like Dubas always just makes moves that we didnt see coming. He seems to just smokescreen the media making them obsess over a few players they barely have interest in and then he pulls the trigger on a guy that makes sense but had zero knowledge about it happening.

With that being said here are my guesses

Kempe
Mantha
Rakell
Iafallo
Dustin Brown(retained)
- Santo_44

Under the radar move : Schwartz

from what I've read he is a really good guy and that Therrian and Bargavin were complete asses to him.

Maybe he went through a rough time but so did Lehner. There is a difference between a person going through a rough time and a person just being incredibly hard to work with.
- Santo_44

I'm not willing to be too swayed by the sweetheart piece in the Athletic. Galchenyuk chose cocaine and party life over his professional obligations and his coaches (and I would imagine a significant number of leaders on his team) took exception to his lack of dedication and focus.

His talent and potential is what saved him from being bounced already. He has an opportunity now to reclaim his career and become something decent again. He's young enough that he could still have a few good years - but he made his bed earlier and should own up to it rather than have his agent try a PR move and deflect from him taking responsibility and growing from the past.

Under the radar move : Schwartz
- burn

Blues look like they're back in business. They beat Minny 9-1 last night. Schwartz scored 2 goals. They're likely buyers. But Armstrong has been known to be a buyer and seller simultaneously.

If Foligno wants to go back to Columbus or they want to keep him, then they probably don't trade him . . . but he's a UFA at the end of the year and they're not going anywhere. Even a crappy return is better than no return.

It's funny, because I look at the names floated (guys with 1 year or 2 years left on rebuilding teams) . . . The only deal that makes sense if Freddy is truly injured and moving to LTIR for the remainder of the regular season is I circle back to Foligno + Savard + Korpisalo. That's an assload of cap (5.5 + 4.2 + 2.6) - 12.5m. You can't fit that under Andersen's 5m LTIR. We'd have to overpay to get them to retain 50% and bounce it to a 3rd party (like the mentioned Chicago) who then retains more than 30% and up to 50% of the remaining $6.25m for more picks.

We probably send a 1st, an A prospect, and a B prospect to Columbus, and then a 3rd or 4th to Chicago for the retention . . .

Edit: I probably shouldn't say the ONLY deal, but if Fred's truly injured, we're going to need a G, we want to strengthen the LW and D positions . . .so this works.
- Monkeypunk

I think Lebrun or Friedman said he’s expected to start skating in the next few days, I’m not sure though.

They’ve got two sets of connected decisions: do they have confidence that he is going to be able to come back and play well and, if so, how do they finance whatever moves they want to make without his $5M.

Under the radar move : Schwartz
- burn

Schwartz Tavares Nylander
TSN line

Dubas was there from 2011 to 2014. Here are the names I know are in the NHL.

Colin Miller
Darnell Nurse
Gudbranson

So what you suggest is we're getting Darnell Nurse

- Aaron_85

Ha! Nurse would be a great addition. 😂

Under the radar move : Schwartz
- burn

Yeah. I don't know where St. Louis is at. They lost 7 in a row, with Vegas thumping them 6-1 and I think their playoff chances were around 9% at moneypuck. Then they beat Vegas 3-1 and Minnesota 9-1 and those odds are up to 26.7% (San Jose is still the odds on favourite to take the #4 spot at 43%) . . .

If I was to look at the standings, the points, and number of remaining games without considering who anyone is playing, I'd pick St. Louis out of them, Arizona or San Jose.

It's hard to blow that up when they're that close to making the playoffs. Had they lost the last two . . .