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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 9 @ 4:33 PM ET
DeSmith could wind up being the big draw in the draft. Obviously we have to compare to what other teams will have available, but a back-up of his level has to be very attractive.
- Rinosaur


I can't imagine a backup goalie being attractive in an expansion draft, like.. at all.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 9 @ 4:40 PM ET
Why? Malkin is a natural center. Why wouldn't McCann just play LW on his line?
- burgh4life87

Makes you go, hmmmm
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 9 @ 4:41 PM ET
I can't imagine a backup goalie being attractive in an expansion draft, like.. at all.
- j.boyd919

Yea they can probably get a couple tandem starters
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 9 @ 4:41 PM ET
I can't imagine a backup goalie being attractive in an expansion draft, like.. at all.
- j.boyd919


Honestly, I think it would depend on who the starter will be for Seattle and also how much cap space they've already allocated. I mean, if you had asked me in advance of the Vegas expansion draft which Flyers player would be picked, I would have gone way down the list of potential candidates before I said Pierre Edouard Bellemare.

I can definitely see a scenario where a backup like DeSmith is an attractive option at back up goal.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 9 @ 4:45 PM ET
Honestly, I think it would depend on who the starter will be for Seattle and also how much cap space they've already allocated. I mean, if you had asked me in advance of the Vegas expansion draft which Flyers player would be picked, I would have gone way down the list of potential candidates before I said Pierre Edouard Bellemare.

I can definitely see a scenario where a backup like DeSmith is an attractive option at back up goal.

- Doc_Sarcasm


Backups are easily acquirable via free agency. I would worry about building the full on-ice roster and the starter rather than a goalie that will play backup games, personally, but that's why I'm a GM, because of that line of thinking.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 9 @ 4:50 PM ET
Backups are easily acquirable via free agency. I would worry about building the full on-ice roster and the starter rather than a goalie that will play backup games, personally, but that's why I'm a GM, because of that line of thinking.
- j.boyd919


Well.. every team is going to lose a player right? So, its going to come down to how the rest of the jigsaw puzzle looks.

In the short term, I'm really interested to see what Ron Hextall does in the next couple days. I'm in a really weird spot where I'm congenitally pre-disposed to hope everything Penguins related ends up as a massive tire fire inside of a dumpster fire and yet am still a huge fan of Ron Hextall as a person, player, and GM.

If GMJR were still in charge I would expect him to swing a deal for Granlund among others. With Hextall running the show, I have no idea what he will do considering the number and quality of the trade chips he has to work with and his ingrained resistance to spending those chips. Its probably for the best (for him) that this seems to be a buyer's market.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 9 @ 4:53 PM ET
Backups are easily acquirable via free agency. I would worry about building the full on-ice roster and the starter rather than a goalie that will play backup games, personally, but that's why I'm a GM, because of that line of thinking.
- j.boyd919


Backups are easy to find, but not at DeSmith's caliber. Look, I'm not saying that he's more attractive than say Blueger or whatever dman might be exposed, but after the season he's having, depending on all the other skaters available, he might make a lot of sense for Seattle.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 4:56 PM ET
Is the market on Glendening that bad?
- burgh4life87

No but Lafferty would allow them to protect Namestnikov
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 4:57 PM ET
Backups are easy to find, but not at DeSmith's caliber. Look, I'm not saying that he's more attractive than say Blueger or whatever dman might be exposed, but after the season he's having, depending on all the other skaters available, he might make a lot of sense for Seattle.
- Rinosaur

Hasn’t desmith cleared waivers before?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 9 @ 4:58 PM ET
Hasn’t desmith cleared waivers before?
- Feds91Stammer



yes, he did. but he did so at a time when there was a glut of goalies and no one was willing to claim him and stash him on their roster for the whole season.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 4:59 PM ET
yes, he did. but he did so at a time when there was a glut of goalies and no one was willing to claim him and stash him on their roster for the whole season.
- Doc_Sarcasm

Well if he was this supposed top tier backup he would have been claimed.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 9 @ 5:00 PM ET
Well if he was this supposed top tier backup he would have been claimed.
- Feds91Stammer



he has more of a track record now than he did when he went unclaimed.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
Hasn’t desmith cleared waivers before?
- Feds91Stammer

Yea I think that was last season. Jarry outplayed him and took the backup/tandem role with Murray.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 9 @ 5:10 PM ET
Well if he was this supposed top tier backup he would have been claimed.
- Feds91Stammer


His stats don't lie and we all know that claiming players on waviers is trickier than just taking a player you want.

I'm just saying it's possible.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 9 @ 5:34 PM ET
Madden said "he's heard" Kap has a broken bone in his ankle that will heal in a 4 week timeframe. Geno's injury is a knee (which we all knew), but the timeframe is a mystery.

Not earth moving stuff, but just thought I'd pass it along.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 9 @ 5:35 PM ET
Madden said "he's heard" Kap has a broken bone in his ankle that will heal in a 4 week timeframe. Geno's injury is a knee (which we all knew), but the timeframe is a mystery.

Not earth moving stuff, but just thought I'd pass it along.

- madmike71


4 weeks from from the time injury or four more weeks?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 9 @ 5:38 PM ET
4 weeks from from the time injury or four more weeks?
- Rinosaur


Time of injury.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 9 @ 5:50 PM ET
Time of injury.
- madmike71


Ok good. What was it, like two weeks ago? I can't even keep track at this point.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 9 @ 5:58 PM ET
This is TIOPS, so don't shoot the messenger...

They're saying two things:

1) Bozak could be a bargain rental the Pens could go after if he only costs a late round pick. He's a player Burke likes since he knows him.

2) The one rental player Hex and Burke would be aggressive about getting is Foligno and that Foligno has expressed that he'd be willing to go to a contender (cue Fed's joke here). The Pens have checked in on him, but obviously other teams as well including Washington.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 6:26 PM ET
he has more of a track record now than he did when he went unclaimed.
- Doc_Sarcasm

His NHL games played went from 50 to 66.

16 games doesn’t suddenly make this guy a top tier backup.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 9 @ 6:56 PM ET
Ok good. What was it, like two weeks ago? I can't even keep track at this point.
- Rinosaur

Yah two weeks ago
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 7:10 PM ET
All this talk about last nights performance. Woulda been a different game if the Rags didn’t miss a bunch of open nets
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 9 @ 7:14 PM ET
All this talk about last nights performance. Woulda been a different game if the Rags didn’t miss a bunch of open nets
- Thorny87


Well if they were better they would have scored on those open nets, wouldn't they.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 7:14 PM ET
Just sitting there looking at it DeSmith.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 7:18 PM ET
Well if they were better they would have scored on those open nets, wouldn't they.
- Rinosaur

Their inability to finish doesn’t mean the pens played well. They had a bunch of great chances
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