Braun has been fine this season.
- bmeltzer

Yes he has; has done an admirable job being asked to play a role he shouldn't be playing.

do you see the Flyers possibly moving him as teams will need depth for the playoffs?

Bill, that Morin penalty wasn't even! Sanheim got hit with the same thing later in the game and NO CALL THEY SAY!

Don't sugarcoat it, it was a BS call!
- 2Real

Shouldn't have been a 5 no doubt but lets be honest his hit on Pagaeu Saturday night should have been a major and game misconduct so I guess it all evens out in the end

Braun has been fine this season.
- bmeltzer

one of the few that has played to his potential but you can see he is starting to wear down

Braun is what he is, a bottom pairing defenseman. But the Flyers are so bad, they need him to play top 4 minutes, and when this happens he gets exposed.
- jd250

Every and I mean EVERY Dman on the roster makes dumb passes. That goes for the forwards and the goalies as well. I think that most people have a penchant for a certain player, that they tend to notice his mistakes more than the others.
As of today, Braun's overall play as a Dman is better than everyone except Provy, and by the way makes not so smart moves as well. People like Sanheim or Ghost because they can skate better and better puck handlers in open ice, but that is only a part of the the Dman's job description. There's a reason that you don't see Ghost on the penalty kill, and Sanheim on the second pairing. Myers is a tougher player and I do think that he will end up being better and a good 2nd line Dman. Braun isn't a top liner, but we have what we have. Honestly I don't believe Provy is a top liner on most teams as well, but as I said we have what we have.

Yes he has; has done an admirable job being asked to play a role he shouldn't be playing.

do you see the Flyers possibly moving him as teams will need depth for the playoffs?
- login

No, because he has a year left on his contract (if he were on a one-year deal, he'd be pretty easy to trade if they wanted to). Also because he's the closest thing the Flyers have to Niskanen's calming influence on the bench and in the room now that Niskanen is retired.

Every and I mean EVERY Dman on the roster makes dumb passes. That goes for the forwards and the goalies as well. I think that most people have a penchant for a certain player, that they tend to notice his mistakes more than the others.
As of today, Braun's overall play as a Dman is better than everyone except Provy, and by the way makes not so smart moves as well. People like Sanheim or Ghost because they can skate better and better puck handlers in open ice, but that is only a part of the the Dman's job description. There's a reason that you don't see Ghost on the penalty kill, and Sanheim on the second pairing. Myers is a tougher player and I do think that he will end up being better and a good 2nd line Dman. Braun isn't a top liner, but we have what we have. Honestly I don't believe Provy is a top liner on most teams as well, but as I said we have what we have.
- RustyPipes

Provorov is absolutely a top-pairing player on most teams, although more of a No. 2 perhaps, if the team's No. 1 is right-handed or otherwise prefers playing RD since Provorov exclusively plays the left side. The reason for this isn't that Provorov is off the charts in any area except stamina and conditioning but because he's above-average in most areas of the game.

His skating isn't the best, but it's not what's holding him back.

Guy's not gonna make a living as a high skill player. He needs to do a better job of bringing his lunch pail, establishing himself physically earlier in games, fight harder to get open and get to the (frank)ing net.

If he can do those things, he'll be of some value to the team. If he doesn't, this floating around throwing blind passes version of Nolan Patrick is basically baggage.
- Tomahawk

Maybe I am losing my mind but why is it that when our forwards have an opportunity to drive the puck hard to the net they never take it. They button Hook stop and look for the pass or a trailer.

Guys like Hayes and Patrick should be using their size to push to the net and create some chaos and chances. Way too predictable and they end up getting their only chances from the outside. Nhl goalies aren’t letting those in. Frustrating.

His biggest problem is he is shying away from contact, not winning those puck battles. I also think he is too defensive minded, doesn't go to the areas goal scorers instinctively go to. I have little hope he will work out unfortunately.
- jd250

I don't know. He's had stretches every season of his career -- this season, it was in camp, where he was downright dominant and in getting 5 points in the first 7 games -- where he looks like what you'd expect from a guy who'd have been a top 10 pick even a year BEFORE his draft eligibility and entered his draft year as close to a unanimous No. 1 projection before he basically stagnated and others advanced.

In 2018-19, he had spells of nine points in 10 games (Oct. 20 to Nov. 10, five goals, four assists) and eight points in eight games (Jan. 13 to Feb 4, five goals, three assists).

As a rookie in 2017-18, he had stretches of 10 points in 12 games (Feb. 16 to March 10, five goals, five assists) and a mini-streak of five points in three games (April 1 to 5, three goals, two assists).

So the ability to score at a healthy clip is there, but those very long droughts that last entire months or more have been a career-long pattern so far.

Exactly what you said! Back in the days of real hockey a score like that would have led to fight after fight after fight on the ice. If you can't beat them on the score board then beat them down on the ice. At least act like you're engaged. Of a team drops 9 goals on you then that mean they ran through you all night long, with no pushback

Thia culture is not what I grew up a fan of. I grew up in Philly so I will always bleed orange and black but my God is it hard to cheer for this group of softies. If I didn't grow up q fan I would not even give this team the satisfaction of viewing them

I don't know how to fix this without a tear down of the core.. and we have been saying this for years and it's abroken record now.
Slow starts. No push back. Horrid special teams. Lackluster player performance. It really looks like this team did not give a poop on several different nights and that is unacceptable. I don't want to see a rebuild happen but I don't know how to retool your core without major shake ups. Something has to happen, though.

We all want to see changes made but how do we do it? Who do we ship out and who do we hope to acquire this off-season?

And I don't even blame CF. This is a horrible time to have to retool with a flat cap and nobody taking on salary. I don't blame CF just yet but everyone below him, especially the assistant coaches, need to be discussed about replacing. Therrien can go chop wood. I'm done with him and his sub par product on ice product
- Bob Habib

I hear ya. Remember how exciting it was to see stuff even like the brawl wit Ottawa in 04? Loved those days and felt more like the players have a crap.

The way I’d fix this mess is to generally stick with the younger players for now as we don’t know what we have. Continue to give hart the net for the majority of starts.

The chemistry is off with the core vets and has been for a while. I’d look at moving Jake somehow for a similar contract with someone who needs a change. No specific idea as to who. I’d have to take a look. A pure hockey trade to change up some chemistry.

Trade beg borrow steal cheat sign a top pair right shot dman. You may overpay in money or term or in a trade but we can’t go on like this year. The d aren’t slotted correctly and you build from the net out. Settle down the d Corp and it’ll be infectious to the g and forwards. You watch.

This prob can’t happen until after the ed but so be it. This was always going to be a problem in this goofy season where the leafs are going to win the presidents trophy.

Fletch probably didn’t have a choice but to stand pat in the offseason, but he had to know niskanen retiring would pooch us.

If you aren't winning then you are losing.....fans.
Plenty of complaints have been legitimate and even we amateurs (well, me anyway) can make the evaluations of what we lack.
My turn, the fact is we aren't very effective in puck management. If I see Jake flailing around I am OK. When he gets any room he loses the puck. He passes with a fearlessness he doesn't deserve to demonstrate. He will take on three dudes for no reason. He destroys a lot of plays with 'hope' passes. If he's having a GOOD game, he will, after his errors, chase the opponent and sometimes catch them. UGH.
Provorov is a smaller version of this 'method' of play. NP?
While we may have a number of players and staff that are trying, what are they missing?
To me, it's FAST adaptive intelligence. A few brain farts have and will continue to separate us from contention. It can be bench or behind the bench problem.
When we speak of errors, they are normally generated by the lack of thought, of unintelligent responses to situations. This could be a sensory lack, an inability to perceive because of a physical problem (eyesight, hearing, neurological deficits, etc.). The results have spoken. When drafting this attribute needs to be addressed. Dig into who and what they possess by their thinking.
Since I am not a fully informed guru of hockey operations (I make my own coffee, pretty well.) is there a means to check for this 'talent'? Are they already running them through this wringer?
That's a genuine question.

G has played as well as we can expect him to play given where he is in his career, he is not the problem on this team, though I would like him to give up the 'C'.
- jd250

I just do not get this line of thinking. To what end?

I don’t mind getting banned for calling you an idiot because you’re an idiot.
- SuperSchennBros

I just do not get this line of thinking. To what end?
- MBFlyerfan

A symbol of change, a new voice. Giroux is a nice guy who leads by example. Maybe that is not what this team needs. Maybe they need a leader with a different approach. Can Messier still lace them up?

It's not sneaky. It's relative. Answer the question.
- MJL

Okey Dokey then; Provorov, Sanheim and Myers, assuming the Flyers protect 3 D and 7 forwards. An this proves what exactly?

A symbol of change, a new voice. Giroux is a nice guy who leads by example. Maybe that is not what this team needs. Maybe they need a leader with a different approach. Can Messier still lace them up?
- jd250

Yes a new leader that currently isn't on the roster.

5 points in the first 7 games
- bmeltzer

Wow, forgot that even happened. So he's only had 2 points since then?

Maybe I am losing my mind but why is it that when our forwards have an opportunity to drive the puck hard to the net they never take it. They button Hook stop and look for the pass or a trailer.

Guys like Hayes and Patrick should be using their size to push to the net and create some chaos and chances. Way too predictable and they end up getting their only chances from the outside. Nhl goalies aren’t letting those in. Frustrating.
- Hextall271

Yeah, agreed.

Wow, forgot that even happened. So he's only had 2 points since then?
- Tomahawk

2 points in 30 games isn't good?

Okey Dokey then; Provorov, Sanheim and Myers, assuming the Flyers protect 3 D and 7 forwards. An this proves what exactly?
- jd250

It proves the Flyers will probably have to protect a player that is a healthy scratch because of poor play. A player we all hope will be better but isn’t there yet. I would feel a lot better if we protecting a guy that made it very easy to let some others be vulnerable during the expansion draft. But are we there with Myers ?

It must be his only move. Drop the shoulder ever so slightly and go high glove. Do they really think goalies don't watch video on this stuff?
- aantny88

And you know what, Patrick would have been successful last night against Sorokin with the same move if he was able to elevate the puck, unfortunately he shot it right in to his glove.

Wow, forgot that even happened. So he's only had 2 points since then?
- Tomahawk

All the while seeing a regular shift on the PP.

It proves the Flyers will probably have to protect a player that is a healthy scratch because of poor play. A player we all hope will be better but isn’t there yet. I would feel a lot better if we protecting a guy that made it very easy to let some others be vulnerable during the expansion draft. But are we there with Myers ?
- landros 2

Myers is 24 years old and a RHD, so you have to protect him, just for the 1% chance he actually learns how to use his size and play defense.

2 points in 30 games isn't good?
- PLindbergh31

No, its very good, that why AV keeps rolling him out there on power plays and shoot-outs.

Maybe I am losing my mind but why is it that when our forwards have an opportunity to drive the puck hard to the net they never take it. They button Hook stop and look for the pass or a trailer.

Guys like Hayes and Patrick should be using their size to push to the net and create some chaos and chances. Way too predictable and they end up getting their only chances from the outside. Nhl goalies aren’t letting those in. Frustrating.
- Hextall271

Because its in their contract, they get an extra $1000 for every useless pass they make.

Myers is 24 years old and a RHD, so you have to protect him, just for the 1% chance he actually learns how to use this size and play defense.
- jd250

Protecting Myers when the rest of your defense core is a collection of third pairing/extras speaks to this awful mix we have watched all season.