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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 9 @ 9:01 AM ET
LOL. What's the definition of a bust. The only things you actually get right are the equivalent and saying the sun will come up in the morning.
- MJL

The definition of the Bust is drafting Nolan Patrick number 2 overall. In fact if you look in the dictionary under Bust you will see Nolan's picture there.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 9 @ 9:01 AM ET



Ok, come on, that is such a sneaky question that you know all too well the answer to.

- jd250



It's not sneaky. It's relative. Answer the question.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 9 @ 9:02 AM ET
The definition of the Best is drafting Nolan Patrick number 2 overall. In fact if you look in the dictionary under Best you will see Nolan's picture there.
- jd250


That's about what I expected.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 9 @ 9:02 AM ET
I think Nolan Patrick scored in the shootout once this year, but that's it. It's pretty sad how bad they are in the shootout, but it's been like that with the Flyers since day one.
- aantny88



He did ...picked the top corner...if you forget watch his next one because that’s his move....apparently his only move.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 9 @ 9:06 AM ET
G has played as well as we can expect him to play given where he is in his career, he is not the problem on this team, though I would like him to give up the 'C'.
- jd250


Don’t over value the “C”. Giroux for the most part is playing as good a can be expected. He still has the quiet intensity. I think Giroux for the most part has done a good job as captain.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Apr 9 @ 9:07 AM ET
For sure, G has been robbed a few times this year though
- ClaudeFather


Ok, I was wrong. He's been robbed a lot over his career. Less than 30% in the shootout. Ranked 256th for all players with a minimum of 10 attempts. Jake has a better career %.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Apr 9 @ 9:08 AM ET
He did ...picked the top corner...if you forget watch his next one because that’s his move....apparently his only move.
- landros 2


It must be his only move. Drop the shoulder ever so slightly and go high glove. Do they really think goalies don't watch video on this stuff?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 9 @ 9:09 AM ET
OK, only because I like you and you asked for an encore.... drum roll please .....

8. NOLAN PATRICK IS A BUST!! Yes, again, I was right!

- jd250
I really wonder if Patrick is going to make it at the NHL level? Too early to give up on him, but man he labors when he skates. I think he has NHL level hands and hockey IQ, but his skating leaves lots to be desired and I don't know what can be done about that(power skating trainers need apply).
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Apr 9 @ 9:17 AM ET
Hagg played a good game last night. If someone had to sit, Myers was the right choice. He's a good player, but has been inconsistent with some of his decisions. Oddly enough, I know that I'll get ripped, but Provy has been making as much bonehead passes and decisions as anyone else and nobody remarks on them. I like Provy and is our best Dman, but damn some of the moves he makes are something a 1st year man would make. That is why he isn't close to a Norris Trophy candidate.
I'm sure that it isn't him alone, I mean if the team were in better positions so he could pass to someone then he wouldn't take too much on himself.

As for team toughness - #TheTeamThatHextallBuilt Skilled players, regardless of size, in Juniors doesn't always equate to a good NHL player, especially undersized players. Toughness should be a major consideration in drafting a player. I don't mean to drop the gloves, I mean being tenacious on the boards fighting for the puck, sticking up for teammates when needed. Go in hard on the forecheck and don't back down.

I hate that lazy powerplay, they waste so much time with that stupid slingshot to get set up. When the opposing team ices the puck on the powerplay, how many times do you see our players slowly skate back into the Dzone to start to move the puck to the Ozone. There's no consideration of the importance of the time that they have the advantage and when they do get in the Ozone, there are way too many insane cross ice passes at the back end when they are challenged leading to turnovers. Coaching is at fault for that just as much as the players.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 9 @ 9:18 AM ET
It must be his only move. Drop the shoulder ever so slightly and go high glove. Do they really think goalies don't watch video on this stuff?
- aantny88


I doubt a 22 year old, who has played only a couple of games in the NHL, has been studying Nolan Patrick’s shoot out moves.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Apr 9 @ 9:26 AM ET
Good showing by Gagg; increase that trade value.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 9 @ 9:40 AM ET
I really wonder if Patrick is going to make it at the NHL level? Too early to give up on him, but man he labors when he skates. I think he has NHL level hands and hockey IQ, but his skating leaves lots to be desired and I don't know what can be done about that(power skating trainers need apply).
- Phillywhiteout


His skating isn't the best, but it's not what's holding him back.

Guy's not gonna make a living as a high skill player. He needs to do a better job of bringing his lunch pail, establishing himself physically earlier in games, fight harder to get open and get to the (frank)ing net.

If he can do those things, he'll be of some value to the team. If he doesn't, this floating around throwing blind passes version of Nolan Patrick is basically baggage.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 9:41 AM ET
JVR pointless in his last 8 games, and no points in 12 of 13 games.

From leading scorer to healthy scratch any day now.

- PLindbergh31


A trademark cold streak right before the trade deadline. He’s no dummy. Doesn’t wanna get kicked out of the Country Club where there’s no accountability
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 9 @ 9:46 AM ET
His skating isn't the best, but it's not what's holding him back.

Guy's not gonna make a living as a high skill player. He needs to do a better job of bringing his lunch pail, establishing himself physically earlier in games, fight harder to get open and get to the (frank)ing net.

If he can do those things, he'll be of some value to the team. If he doesn't, this floating around throwing blind passes version of Nolan Patrick is basically baggage.

- Tomahawk


As I've said previously, we all realize, even jd250, that the ship has sailed on Patrick reaching his potential as the 2nd round pick. The equivalent of predicting that the sun will come up tomorrow. However, he still has some puck skills so the hope moving forward is that he could be a 3rd line center that can chip in some offense. He's not there. Like many Flyers, he plays on the perimeter. Doesn't want to carry the puck. Needs to develop more aspects of his game. I think there is a possibility that he will be doing it with another team though.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 9:47 AM ET
Myers was scratched because Myers stinks, that is the reason. I don't know what games you are watching, but if you haven't figured out by now Myers is not good, I'm not sure what to tell you. Besides the two bad plays from Provorov last night in the first period, I thought the Flyers D played one of the best games I have seen them play this year, especially given Morin's bullsh*t ejection in the first period.
- jd250

I don’t mind getting banned for calling you an idiot because you’re an idiot.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 9 @ 9:47 AM ET
Like groundhog day year after year with shootouts.

51-92 all time in shootouts. League worst .357 win %.
Next worst Ottawa/Florida .423 win %.

Flyers shooting % in shootouts league worst 26.6 %
Opposition shooting % in shootouts vs. Flyers NHL best 37.7%

Valuable points pissed away year after year. No matter the coach/personnel they do literally nothing to improve. They have become accepting of this absolute garbage.

- PLindbergh31


Dougie Hamilton's like 60% in career SO attempts. He's obviously the answer to both our defensive and shootout woes.





Gusev is near 60% and was just on waivers, too...
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Apr 9 @ 9:48 AM ET
Someone (frank)in explain to me how I can hear all season long how good Laughton is on breakaways but isn’t tried in the shootout. So we get scores one, we have one more chance to stay in it, so Vigneault goes with Voracek or Farabee who never try a move, they just go in for the shot!

How is it on a delayed penalty, Vigneault has the big guns of Giroux, Couturier, Voracek, JvR, Provorov and Lindblom out there with possession and great pressure. We fail to score but our staff comes back with the same useless power play units and don’t get half the amount of pressure that we did on the delay? Explain why we’re not going top heavy and getting our best guys on one unit.

Hagg played great. Glad he returned but why scratch Myers now? Myers is logging heavy minutes every night and everything is on the line, why scratch him now for Hagg? I think I’d understand if we’re scratching Braun but not Myers.

- SuperSchennBros


You’re watching the games right? Myers has been bad. Braun has not.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 9 @ 9:48 AM ET
Did I hear this correctly last night? They said Coots was the only Flyers player with a successful shootout attempt THIS YEAR. If true, unbelievably pathetic and I am going back to turning off the tv when overtime ends.
- backfire


That is not correct. Patrick had a shootout game-winner this season.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 9 @ 9:49 AM ET
AV is not sending messages at this point IMO; the guy is trying to put out the best lineup he can, while also managing the fact that this team has to play 5 games in 6.5 days (Thanks NHL by the way) so he needs to put fresh legs out there as much as possible. Honestly I have seen enough of Myers, he doesn't get, he never will get it IMO.
- jd250


We haven’t seen enough of him. He’s basically in his second season. What did you think of his play last playoffs? He can be that good. Just has to be consistent.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 9:56 AM ET
You’re watching the games right? Myers has been bad. Braun has not.
- black_francis

You think Justin Braun hasn’t been bad, with his blindly attempts to roll the puck off the boards and out of the zone, only to be cut off by the opposing point man every time?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 9 @ 9:58 AM ET
I really wonder if Patrick is going to make it at the NHL level? Too early to give up on him, but man he labors when he skates. I think he has NHL level hands and hockey IQ, but his skating leaves lots to be desired and I don't know what can be done about that(power skating trainers need apply).
- Phillywhiteout

His biggest problem is he is shying away from contact, not winning those puck battles. I also think he is too defensive minded, doesn't go to the areas goal scorers instinctively go to. I have little hope he will work out unfortunately.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 9 @ 9:58 AM ET
It must be his only move. Drop the shoulder ever so slightly and go high glove. Do they really think goalies don't watch video on this stuff?
- aantny88


Yeah, that's his move lol





jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 9 @ 9:59 AM ET
You think Justin Braun hasn’t been bad, with his blindly attempts to roll the puck off the boards and out of the zone, only to be cut off by the opposing point man every time?
- SuperSchennBros

Braun is what he is, a bottom pairing defenseman. But the Flyers are so bad, they need him to play top 4 minutes, and when this happens he gets exposed.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 9 @ 10:04 AM ET
You think Justin Braun hasn’t been bad, with his blindly attempts to roll the puck off the boards and out of the zone, only to be cut off by the opposing point man every time?
- SuperSchennBros


Braun has been fine this season.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 9 @ 10:05 AM ET
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