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- KINGKENZO

I hope you didn't misspell log.

One john is the head of the biggest gang. He looks like Einstein after 10 drinks and 100 more pounds.

Before the act, it is important for him to convince his regular that he loves her. You dont, she says. Its only lust. No, he insists. He gets emotional, and so does she. Then they have wild cowgirl sex (thankfully, you dont get to see overweight Einstein in this phase). Around them are other cells, where similar activity is going on.

The viewer would have to be down with such absurdity, suddenly, in the midst of a fast tension filled plot. Else, it will not be worth it.

wheres the Seth Jones talk coming from? Speculation or actual rumor?
- PhillaBully

rumo(u)rlation

Just want them to play more physically and not take a hit in the talent department. If they win the Cup because of it that’s great.
- mickel25

Ah ok

Rather non specific. My hopeful core is Coots Patrick Frost down the middle. Tk lindblom Bee allison Wisdom Foerster. York provy myers sanheim. Hart errson. In a perfect world thats a high performing top 9 top 4 and goaltending. Highly doubt we get a perfect world.
- Tfaehner

Your core sounds like the entire apple except the old parts and Scottie. Why guys like Wisdom, who may never be a NHL player, over a proven mid 6 guy like Laughton?

Lindblom in. Raffl 4c. Lacynski out. Av says hagg a few days until he returns.

Your core sounds like the entire apple except the old parts and Scottie. Why guys like Wisdom, who may never be a NHL player, over a proven mid 6 guy like Laughton?
- PT21

Quite simple. When you say cup contender I dont see us getting there for closer to 5 years with a young core. Guys like hayes giroux laughton who are good hockey players I dont expect to still be around. If were saying we will wait for growth over supplementing with acquisitions to contend sooner.

Quite simple. When you say cup contender I dont see us getting there for closer to 5 years with a young core. Guys like hayes giroux laughton who are good hockey players I dont expect to still be around. If were saying we will wait for growth over supplementing with acquisitions to contend sooner.
- Tfaehner

As an aside. I dont expect that core to come to fruition. And I favor a balance of growth plus making key acquisitions.

Lindblom in. Raffl 4c. Lacynski out. Av says hagg a few days until he returns.
- Tfaehner

Boston will come out fiery today. That might have been part of the reason Marchand was stirring things up, to set the tone. They played a listless game yesterday. Probably took us for granted. Wont happen today. Should be fun to see.

wheres the Seth Jones talk coming from? Speculation or actual rumor?
- PhillaBully

Actual rumor but one based on three huge assumptions:

1) The Blue Jackets can't get him to agree to an extension this offseason and do not want to risk another Panarin and Bobrovsky situation of him walking for nothing in the 2022 offseason.

2) He would be more agreeable to an extension here rather than testing the market.

3) The Flyers would offer the best trade package among teams that would put in offers.

That's a whole lot of ifs before something like that would be realistic. And just how much would have to go back the other way? A lot.

Lindblom in. Raffl 4c. Lacynski out. Av says hagg a few days until he returns.
- Tfaehner

Too much rotation and why on earth is Jake playing LW

Boston will come out fiery today. That might have been part of the reason Marchand was stirring things up, to set the tone. They played a listless game yesterday. Probably took us for granted. Wont happen today. Should be fun to see.
- PT21

i don't see that being the case, them taking the flyers for granted i mean. they look at the standings and know the flyers are right behind them, and that these games are important.

i do agree they should come out fiery though.

Actual rumor but one based on three huge assumptions:

1) The Blue Jackets can't get him to agree to an extension this offseason and do not want to risk another Panarin and Bobrovsky situation of him walking for nothing in the 2022 offseason.

2) He would be more agreeable to an extension here rather than testing the market.

3) The Flyers would offer the best trade package among teams that would put in offers.

That's a whole lot of ifs before something like that would be realistic. And just how much would have to go back the other way? A lot.
- bmeltzer

But what are the Flyers able to offer?
Realistically they need 2 D-Man + they are just wasting their time with Play Off this year.
What are the chances for Raffl/Laughton being traded as Combo ?

Quite simple. When you say cup contender I dont see us getting there for closer to 5 years with a young core. Guys like hayes giroux laughton who are good hockey players I dont expect to still be around. If were saying we will wait for growth over supplementing with acquisitions to contend sooner.
- Tfaehner

Hayes has a NMC. Where is he going? And Scottie is only 26. Why dont you think he can hang around? Likely not worth the promise to $ ratio?

More to the point, the problem with our core definition is that it is based on optimism rather than demonstrated promise. We have seen some ups and downs from everyone, but other than Hart, of all the ones you mentioned, there is no one I would not move for Seth Jones.

If they added a Scott Hartnell type I would be cool with that.
- mickel25

I kinda feel like Hartnell was a big reason our core never got anywhere. He seemed like just the right combo of power forward, spirited, complementary...but really was he ever any good? Lots of falling down,
Lots of penalties at inopportune times. And he certainly bores me to tears as an analyst.

I kinda feel like Hartnell was a big reason our core never got anywhere. He seemed like just the right combo of power forward, spirited, complementary...but really was he ever any good? Lots of falling down,
Lots of penalties at inopportune times. And he certainly bores me to tears as an analyst.
- therabbi

Gonna have to strongly disagree with all of this

Rather non specific. My hopeful core is Coots Patrick Frost down the middle. Tk lindblom Bee allison Wisdom Foerster. York provy myers sanheim. Hart errson. In a perfect world thats a high performing top 9 top 4 and goaltending. Highly doubt we get a perfect world.
- Tfaehner

It is non specific. No one has any idea which young players are going to turn out to be good enough to make up the core. Nobody knows how Frost, Brink, York, Foerster, Zamula or any of the other players are going to turn out. Is Myers going to reach his potential? We don't know. Of course all of them are not going to pan out.

rumo(u)rlation
- corduroy

I threw it out there for discussion since it looks more and more like Fletch will look to offseason moves, considering that teams will not be able to keep excellent players because of the flat cap... And we have a history of trading with Columbus.

I wouldn't trade Laughton.
- MJL

I agree but if it a team is desperate for secondary scoring and wants to overpay I'm pulling the trigger.

Hayes has a NMC. Where is he going? And Scottie is only 26. Why dont you think he can hang around? Likely not worth the promise to $ ratio?

More to the point, the problem with our core definition is that it is based on optimism rather than demonstrated promise. We have seen some ups and downs from everyone, but other than Hart, of all the ones you mentioned, there is no one I would not move for Seth Jones.
- PT21

Drafting is not an exact science. It is always part optimism. Same for every team. if you move Provorov for Jones, what is the sense? . If the Flyers have to trade Couturier for Jones, what is the sense? The idea is to build a good team.

I agree but if it a team is desperate for secondary scoring and wants to overpay I'm pulling the trigger.
- Pelle31Forever

If someone makes a deal I can't refuse, then yea. I'm not expecting that though.

I kinda feel like Hartnell was a big reason our core never got anywhere. He seemed like just the right combo of power forward, spirited, complementary...but really was he ever any good? Lots of falling down,
Lots of penalties at inopportune times. And he certainly bores me to tears as an analyst.
- therabbi

I don't know. Do you call 37 goals in a season any good?

Right now, moving forward its Couturier, Giroux and the young players coming up and with the team now. As well as any other players they draft who make the grade in the future.
- MJL

AV last night in his presser specifically mentioned that Giroux has been his most consistent player, and has demonstrated leadership by setting good example on and off the ice. He also mentioned he hopes others on the team follow suit. This was a very important and in some way a bombshell statement, because it clearly is calling out those on the team who are not following Giroux's lead. I think this is another indication of dysfunction on the locker room right now.

AV last night in his presser specifically mentioned that Giroux has been his most consistent player, and has demonstrated leadership by setting good example on and off the ice. He also mentioned he hopes others on the team follow suit. This was a very important and in some way a bombshell statement, because it clearly is calling out those on the team who are not following Giroux's lead. I think this is another indication of dysfunction on the locker room right now.
- jd250

I don't think there is dysfunction in the locker room. I think there is dysfunction on the ice.

If someone makes a deal I can't refuse, then yea. I'm not expecting that though.
- MJL

What would you consider an overpayment? 1st rounder?

What would you consider an overpayment? 1st rounder?
- Pelle31Forever

Depends on where the pick is. I don't think they'd get a first for Laughton.