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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 6 @ 10:38 PM ET
It's a blessing in disguise. No need to give Fletcher and staff reason to go for it this season. Start stripping away at it what you can.
- Pelle31Forever


The sad thing is that Scott may demand the 'action for bias' crap again, and Fletcher is not the man you want to do that. Minnesota gave him an open checkbook, and it got them what? They have been like the Flyers, a middling team, not good enough to compete, and not good enough to suck ass. 10 years will soon turn to 20 years, and my ass will be dead and buried
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:39 PM ET
I posted this a few days ago, but I am going to do it again because I think its important to be realistic about the Flyers so-called talented young players:
1. Farabee - potential top 6 forward, but was delegated to the 4th line tonight in a big game
2. TK - marginal top 6 forward
3. Patrick - 4th line, honestly should be demoted to the Phantoms
4. Lindblom - marginal 3rd liner, should be playing 4th line
5. Bunnaman - 4th liner, demoted to the Phantoms
6. Aube Kubel - 4th liner
7. Travis Sanheim - bottom pairing D
8. Phillippe Myers - bottom pairing D
9. Linus Sandin - taxi Squad
10. Tanner Laczynski - taxi squad
11. Carsen TwarynSski - demoted to Phantoms

Now there are players with potential on the Phantoms and in the system, and we will have to wait and see what happens with Frost, but this is the reality of where our young talent is right now. Not pretty.

- jd250



Stop! LOL. For example, Konecny had solid nights the last two games.

So you're going to record that Myers and Sanheim are 3rd pair defenseman and will never be anything more? Do I have that correct?

Linus Sandin won't ever be an NHL player? You do realize that the taxi squad is only for this season? LOL
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 6 @ 10:41 PM ET
Oh, so you didn't watch the game? Then how can you make the comment that this is what a #1 center looks like?
- MJL

Oh I didn’t watch the game... sanheim scored winner in ot. He’s a hall of famer because he scored a goal. He’s a #1 dman. Might be the next Orr. God you’re dumb. Scoring 1 goal means poop you twit
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 6 @ 10:41 PM ET
Stop! LOL. For example, Konecny had solid nights the last two games.

So you're going to record that Myers and Sanheim are 3rd pair defenseman and will never be anything more? Do I have that correct?

Linus Sandin won't ever be an NHL player? You do realize that the taxi squad is only for this season? LOL

- MJL

Stop! I am very much embarrassed for you.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:42 PM ET
Stop! I am very much embarrassed for you.
- jd250


You need to come up with some original material. We both know how this ends. Not well for you.


Man up. Are you going on record that Sanheim and Myers are 3rd pair defenseman and will never be anything more?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:44 PM ET
time to shift focus back to


- KINGKENZO
No!!! This is a hockey thread and the NBA sucks!!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 6 @ 10:45 PM ET
You need to come up with some original material. We both know how this ends. Not well for you.


Man up. Are you going on record that Sanheim and Myers are 3rd pair defenseman and never be anything more?

- MJL

I posted where I thought our young players are right now. I don't believe Sanheim or Myers will ever be much more than the are now. I have no problem manning up, and if I am wrong I will be the first one to admit it. Unlike yourself who will never admit they were wrong about anything.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:46 PM ET
Their second line feeds off their first. How many guys on that first line were not top 10 picks, eh?
- PT21



Flyers have 4 top ten drafted forwards ....so what’s your point ?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 6 @ 10:47 PM ET
You need to come up with some original material. We both know how this ends. Not well for you.


Man up. Are you going on record that Sanheim and Myers are 3rd pair defenseman and will never be anything more?

- MJL

And don't forget, everyone here knows you are on the record that right now the Flyers have 4 legitimate top 4 Dmen
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 6 @ 10:48 PM ET
You need to come up with some original material. We both know how this ends. Not well for you.


Man up. Are you going on record that Sanheim and Myers are 3rd pair defenseman and will never be anything more?

- MJL

And everyone here knows you are on the record that the Flyers already have all the skill in their lineup they need, and that their young players are really good. So you got me, and I got you! So far its not looking that good for you .. is it?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:48 PM ET
I posted where I thought our young players are right now. I don't believe Sanheim or Myers will ever be much more than the are now. I have no problem manning up, and if I am wrong I will be the first one to admit it. Unlike yourself who will never admit they were wrong about anything.
- jd250


I'm proud of you but I already know that you think the Flyers young players are never going to be anything more. The thing is that you're already wrong because both Myers and Sanheim are already top 4 defenseman in this league. I know that has escaped you. I have no issue admitting that I'm wrong when I am. However not when you make crap up.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 6 @ 10:49 PM ET
No, you're right, this game was the Flyers game and they somehow snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. They just don't have IT, whatever IT is that makes you a winner. Fletcher needs to remake this team in the off season, its as simple as that.
- jd250

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:49 PM ET
And everyone here knows you are on the record that the Flyers already have all the skill in their lineup they need, and that their young players are really good. So you got me, and I got you! So far its not looking that good for you .. is it?
- jd250


You're making crap up again! You have a problem with that tonight.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Apr 6 @ 10:50 PM ET
I kind of miss the days when Holmgren was the GM. If the team played this bad he would come down and rip the players a new one. Then he would work out a trade and the team would be competitive again. Of course he did sign Andrew MacDonald and I'm still in counseling over that one. 😀
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 6 @ 10:50 PM ET
I'm proud of you but I already know that you think the Flyers young players are never going to be anything more. The thing is that you're already wrong because both Myers and Sanheim are already top 4 defenseman in this league. I know that has escaped you. I have no issue admitting that I'm wrong when I am. However not when you make crap up.
- MJL

You posted it again! Now I am truly embarrassed for you!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:50 PM ET
And don't forget, everyone here knows you are on the record that right now the Flyers have 4 legitimate top 4 Dmen
- jd250


They do. Absolutely. It's not the right mix together but they have 4 defensman capable and talented enough to play in the top 4.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 6 @ 10:50 PM ET
You just knew it was going to go down like this. You see, the Bruins have high end very competitive players. I know everyone hates Marchand, but you just knew he and Bergeron were going to have great games tonight after last night's ending. I said going into this game if you shut that first line down you win the game and they failed miserably. Always great when you get out goaltended by a 4th stringer too. Did anyone notice that their goalie was coming waaaaaaaaay out of his net?? You'd think a team with real coaching and or players would have exploited that. Guess not. Thanks for nuttin!
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 6 @ 10:52 PM ET
No, you're right, this game was the Flyers game and they somehow snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. They just don't have IT, whatever IT is that makes you a winner. Fletcher needs to remake this team in the off season, its as simple as that.
- jd250


He is incapable of building a championship team through the draft, through free agency, or trades. His history of mediocrity speaks for itself.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 6 @ 10:54 PM ET
He is incapable of building a championship team through the draft, through free agency, or trades. His history of mediocrity speaks for itself.
- corduroy

Hopefully he learned from his time in Minnesota. I am willing to give him a chance here, but if he even tries to roll out this truck full of crap he calls a hockey team next season, he deserves to be fired on the spot.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:54 PM ET
I posted this a few days ago, but I am going to do it again because I think its important to be realistic about the Flyers so-called talented young players:
1. Farabee - potential top 6 forward, but was delegated to the 4th line tonight in a big game
2. TK - marginal top 6 forward
3. Patrick - 4th line, honestly should be demoted to the Phantoms
4. Lindblom - marginal 3rd liner, should be playing 4th line
5. Bunnaman - 4th liner, demoted to the Phantoms
6. Aube Kubel - 4th liner
7. Travis Sanheim - bottom pairing D
8. Phillippe Myers - bottom pairing D
9. Linus Sandin - taxi Squad
10. Tanner Laczynski - taxi squad
11. Carsen Twarynski - demoted to Phantoms

Now there are players with potential on the Phantoms and in the system, and we will have to wait and see what happens with Frost, but this is the reality of where our young talent is right now. Not pretty.

- jd250



A little pessimistic....TK has potential to be a very good 1rst line player.
Sanheim has the talent to be a very good top 4. Tanner Laczynski ....let’s give him some time. Farabee is another really good top 6 prospect-trending towards 1rst line. Patrick and Lindblom will get a chance to rebound next year...I’m not sure what happens there. Myers has the tools, but again I’m just not sure if this seasons a mirage or is this what this kid is.
The other guys have all shown glimpses....lot of quantity there...hopefully some late blooming quality.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 6 @ 10:54 PM ET
Is there a worse defender skating backwatds in open ice than Ghost?
- PT21



Bergeron on 4.5.21?

Educational elite in bold

jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 6 @ 10:59 PM ET
A little pessimistic....TK has potential to be a very good 1rst line player.
Sanheim has the talent to be a very good top 4. Tanner Laczynski ....let’s give him some time. Farabee is another really good top 6 prospect-trending towards 1rst line. Patrick and Lindblom will get a chance to rebound next year...I’m not sure what happens there. Myers has the tools, but again I’m just not sure if this seasons a mirage or is this what this kid is.
The other guys have all shown glimpses....lot of quantity there...hopefully some late blooming quality.

- landros 2

There ya go .. a true optimist in the house. I wish I had your optimism. I did post TK is a marginal top 6 forward, so he has room to grow but this has been a tough year for him. I also posted Farabee was potentially a top 6 forward, but he has slipped big time over the past few weeks, so he is going to have to learn how to play consistently. Patrick and Lindblom are what they are, if either are still here next year I am sure thy might show some improvement, but they will struggle to consistently stay in a good top 9 IMO. Myers has the size, reach and skating skill, but he sucks, I have no belief in him.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Apr 6 @ 11:00 PM ET
LOL Keith Jones looked like he was gonna murder someone
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

remember wehn he almost killed off lindros naked ina hotel room while sleeping togethjnetr?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 6 @ 11:01 PM ET
No!!! This is a hockey thread and the NBA sucks!!

- Phillywhiteout

at least they took care of business and swept Boston this year
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 6 @ 11:07 PM ET
I posted this a few days ago, but I am going to do it again because I think its important to be realistic about the Flyers so-called talented young players:
1. Farabee - potential top 6 forward, but was delegated to the 4th line tonight in a big game
2. TK - marginal top 6 forward
3. Patrick - 4th line, honestly should be demoted to the Phantoms
4. Lindblom - marginal 3rd liner, should be playing 4th line
5. Bunnaman - 4th liner, demoted to the Phantoms
6. Aube Kubel - 4th liner
7. Travis Sanheim - bottom pairing D
8. Phillippe Myers - bottom pairing D
9. Linus Sandin - taxi Squad
10. Tanner Laczynski - taxi squad
11. Carsen Twarynski - demoted to Phantoms

Now there are players with potential on the Phantoms and in the system, and we will have to wait and see what happens with Frost, but this is the reality of where our young talent is right now. Not pretty.

- jd250


So, I'm curious....understanding that this is your view on the younger players, I'm curious to know what kind of changes you're expecting Fletcher to be able to make (that will make much of a difference)? You have 2 guys locked in with nmc, and a handful of other vets that are hard sells due to the money attached to them. If the younger players are all marginal in your view, realistically, how are you moving anybody on this roster? They can't just trade bad players for good ones, nor can they force teams to take a guy like Jake or JVR without matching money and players likely in similar situations.....so are you dealing prospects and picks? That's why as much as we all would like change, realistically it's going to be hard for Fletcher to pull off drastic changes....so if you can't really change the team, what do you change?
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