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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 5 @ 7:52 PM ET
morganti looks so depressed
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 5 @ 7:52 PM ET
Won't be a popular opinion but I would take McAvoy straight up over Provy.
- DSmooth


Every major analyst across the NHL considers McAvoy one the best defenseman in hockey. Provy isn't in those conservations
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 7:53 PM ET
horrible turnover again by who else but Jake, and then Sanheim sits there and does nothing, doesn't take the shooter. What a horrible play all around.
- jd250


Oh these over emotional fan reactions. It was a penalty and a blown call. Voracek was tripped up. Sanheim was caught in a 2 on 1 down low. Not much he could do there.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Apr 5 @ 7:53 PM ET
Be careful. He will absolutely zing you by asking if you have been waived and claimed by another board. Isn't that evidence of wit?

Then, not content, he will zing you ten more times with the same line. On the same day. Ain't that something?

It will be like listening to Lenny Bruce. After 10 valiums.

- PT21

There are no Lenny Bruces on this board. Not even close.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 5 @ 7:54 PM ET
morganti look so depressed
- 2Real


Looks like he's trying really hard not to glance at Taryn's crotch.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 7:56 PM ET
Every major analyst across the NHL considers McAvoy one the best defenseman in hockey. Provy isn't in those conservations
- Tfaehner


A recent poll of NHL players, coaches and GM's had Provorov in the top 10.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 5 @ 7:57 PM ET
Looks like he's trying really hard not to glance at Taryn's crotch.
- Tomahawk


have they resorted to upskirt shots of Taryn to keep viewership numbers?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 5 @ 7:58 PM ET
Every major analyst across the NHL considers McAvoy one the best defenseman in hockey. Provy isn't in those conservations
- Tfaehner

and most of those people rated Werinski over Provy.....
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Apr 5 @ 7:58 PM ET
Be careful. He will absolutely zing you by asking if you have been waived and claimed by another board. Isn't that evidence of wit?

Then, not content, he will zing you ten more times with the same line. On the same day. Ain't that something?

It will be like listening to Lenny Bruce. After 10 valiums.

- PT21


Thank you for making my point!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 5 @ 7:58 PM ET
Well..

If you are OK saying we have 3 eligible players to compare to tampa 6 guys (hopefully)

Coots for Stamkos
? For kucherov
? For point
Provy for Hedman
? For mcdonaugh
Hart for vasilevsky

Huge bits of hope but again let's just say it can be seen like that. If we move out all other big contracts and only keep our mid tier. The mid tier players I described are easily comparable to the lightnings. And I would argue our prospects on elc surpass what the lightning currently have.

So close the gap. Do you need to talk?

Would you consider johny hockey or Patrick Laine as fillers of those voids ? Could they be attainable? I certainly think so to the latter.

How about dougie Hamilton or Seth Jones? I also think they could be obtained. If we meet the price.

Make those additions and are we suddenly contenders ?

- Tfaehner


No, I said out top players are not comparable to their top players and that is where the big gap lies. Stamkos is a bonus, as you saw last year. Point is their #1C. Coots is not that kind of player. Provy is nowhere near Hedman. Hart however could be Vasilevsky or even more possibly. We do not have wingers like Kucherov.

If you want that kind of players, you are either going to have gamble for several years of high drafting (and be prepared that there are no guarantees) or gamble on a young player in FA/OS (extreme example), again understanding there are no guarantees.

No to Laine and JG btw. Big yes to Seth. Moderate yes to Dougie, depending on price. He is a UFA after this year, right? And a Rightie.


DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Apr 5 @ 7:58 PM ET
people were stronger on their skates back in his day
- 2Real
Anyone remember Coatsey's corner on the radio between periods back in the 80's? He had fans call in and it was taken off the air when a fan asked an unaskable question about a player in the locker room. With all the noise, Coates actually asked the delighted prankster to repeat...next Coates simply says "OH NO" and the station pulls the plug....the corner was never heard from again...hysterical!
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 5 @ 7:59 PM ET
A recent poll of NHL players, coaches and GM's had Provorov in the top 10.
- MJL


Source ? Truly interested in looking at it and the explanation not doubting it. Most times I see him placed 15-25.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 5 @ 8:00 PM ET
Every major analyst across the NHL considers McAvoy one the best defenseman in hockey. Provy isn't in those conservations
- Tfaehner

I think Provorov is closer in the conversations in top 10 for defensemen in the league, than Sean Couturier top 10 for centers in the league.

There, I said it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 8:00 PM ET
No, I said out top players are not comparable to their top players and that is where the big gap lies. Stamkos is a bonus, as you saw last year. Point is their #1C. Coots is not that kind of player. Provy is nowhere near Hedman. Hart however could be Vasilevsky or even more possibly. We do not have wingers like Kucherov.

If you want that kind of players, you are either going to have gamble for several years of high drafting (and be prepared that there are no guarantees) or gamble on a young player in FA/OS (extreme example), again understanding there are no guarantees.

No to Laine and JG btw. Big yes to Seth. Moderate yes to Dougie, depending on price. He is a UFA after this year, right? And a Rightie.

- PT21


Point was drafted 79th overall and Kucherov was drafted 58th overall.


PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 5 @ 8:00 PM ET
There are no Lenny Bruces on this board. Not even close.
- Sinisalo4vr


10 valiumed LB, sure there are.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 8:01 PM ET
Source ? Truly interested in looking at it and the explanation not doubting it. Most times I see him placed 15-25.
- Tfaehner


It was on ESPN. For the record, I don't think Provorov is a top 10 NHL defenseman.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 5 @ 8:01 PM ET
Source ? Truly interested in looking at it and the explanation not doubting it. Most times I see him placed 15-25.
- Tfaehner

Name these 15 to 25 defensemen you have ahead of Provorov. I’ll wait, you have until the Game ends.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 5 @ 8:02 PM ET
lmao this team (frank)ing sucks
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 5 @ 8:03 PM ET
I bet Marchand/Bergeron/Pastrnak will combine for zero points tonight.

Like taking candy from a baby.

- PLindbergh31


Did I win?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 5 @ 8:04 PM ET
Every major analyst across the NHL considers McAvoy one the best defenseman in hockey. Provy isn't in those conservations
- Tfaehner



We don't put much stock on external assessments here. Look where they are and we are in our hockey punditry. Are you seriously saying that HB isn't better than being on TSN and making a few hundred grand a year?

If so, I don't believe you.

Bergeron is so silky smooth.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 5 @ 8:06 PM ET
Source ? Truly interested in looking at it and the explanation not doubting it. Most times I see him placed 15-25.
- Tfaehner



It was a poll of 20 guys, scattered across franchises. 13 of them ranked him outside top 10. They gave points for how highly he was ranked.

Some GM ranked him #2! That snuck him just in the top 10. That one outlier.

I have a pretty good idea who that GM is.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 5 @ 8:08 PM ET
How did he save both those
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 5 @ 8:08 PM ET
Dominik Hasek, is that you?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 5 @ 8:08 PM ET
lmao this team (frank)ing sucks
- 2Real



Pk is beyond embarrassing.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 5 @ 8:08 PM ET
How did he save both those
- arichardson22


Flyers third stringer Lyon catches both of those shots in his teeth and laughs.
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