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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
A lead?? wtf is this
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
That's a lucky goal but we'll take it. TK made a horrible play at the blue line but redeemed himself.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
Well look who showed up
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
leadership from the TKO
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Apr 5 @ 7:26 PM ET
EDIT: Btw, that OS was a stupid one. Like the one to Aho. It was underpriced and for two short a term.

11m would be much more than what he would get from TB very likely.

- PT21

Are you talking to yourself again little Sheldon ? So pathetic.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Apr 5 @ 7:26 PM ET
A lead?? wtf is this
- Tomahawk


Yo Tomahowk.. why the change in avatar?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 5 @ 7:27 PM ET
A lead?? wtf is this
- Tomahawk

don't worry it won't last long, way to follow up a goal with turnovers and crap shifts boys!!
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 5 @ 7:28 PM ET
Morin just saved Ghost’s ass
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 5 @ 7:28 PM ET
Morin just saved Ghost’s ass
- arichardson22

YES! I was just going to post that .. horrible play by Ghost

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 5 @ 7:29 PM ET
Yo Tomahowk.. why the change in avatar?
- Letterkenney


new avatar new me
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 5 @ 7:31 PM ET
I'm ok with selling off veterans. As of now. The lightning are the class of the NHL. Ive been looking hard at their cap situation. They have it broken up as such.

High paid (over 6 per)
Stamkos kucherov Hedman vasi point mcdonaugh All one the best at their positions minus McDonough who is still a quality vet but no longer elite

Our high paid
Jvr giroux jake hayes provy. Yeah you can see we are not getting our moneys worth here.

Medium paid. (4-6 million)
Cirelli killorn palat Johnson gorde sergachev. Middle 6 offensive players and 2nd pair defenseman. Money well spent.

Our medium paid
Tk coots ghost. Incredible value in coots. Tk slotted right for his contributions. Ghost - yeah... but you'll notice this list again doesn't go nearly as far as there's does.

Low paid non min/elc (above 1 mill below 4 million)
Coleman Cermak rutta mcelhenny.. quality for cheap. Total between all 4 players under 8 million combined. Rest their teams fills out on elc /mins

Low paid non min / elc us
Braun hagg elliot lindblom laughton raffl nak gus sanheim myers. Lot of names in this bucket.

When you look at the difference in standard. Lightning pay for a premium player at each position. 2 top centers. A top scoring wing. A top pairing d pairing. And a franchise goalie. We spend that money on not those things. While we have some value in our mid tier rankings its clear we don't have enough of those level of players. Our depth. And at the end its clear we are paying too many low value players to fill out our roster to make up for the lack of mid tier players.

When you look at the next 3 years in hoping we grow into those ranks. Who is in each tier with their next contracts if we cleared out the top contracts who quite frankly don't belong there? How do we achieve those levels. When I look we only have 3 potential high paid players (coots hart provy) i dont see anyone else growing into it within 3 years. Mid tier players is the group i see growing (laughton myers sanheim farabee lindblom). And we have plenty of prospects on elc to fill out the roster.

How do you close the gap ?

- Tfaehner


Well, I will have a crack as I always do: you close that gap by first and foremost accepting that we are not on that track irrespective of what happens and who develops and who doesn't. That top tier that you posted is where I think the most critical gap lies.

Top players, even if they are drafted outside the top, fairly rarely bloom late. They start showing signs of stardom precociously. Further, their trajectory is less volatile and there are less ups and downs. The late bloomers often turn into decent players but it is rare they are start with being merely decent and then develop into top stars. (Iotw, I am skeptical that Konecny for instance will ever develop into a winger like Kucherov or anything in that realm).

Second, you understand that there are no short cuts in sports or life, and you are not going to get a fun team to watch every night and also contend for the cup in one of those years. It essentially never happens. Currently, we are of course behind the old powers; BOS, Caps, Vegas, TB, Blues. The juggernaut coming is Avs.Next on the realm will be NJ, Rangers, Vancouver, Ottawa.


Third you put the previous two 2gether, and accept what 4 means. You have to gamble with the draft or with the FA. A failure to do that is essentially a continual tryst with mediocrity that is our club now.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 5 @ 7:32 PM ET
against the Bruins, I really want JVR off the top line, he is a liability defensively and so far this game is giving up a lot of chances.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 5 @ 7:33 PM ET
Just saw the stat that the flyers just scored first for the first time in 7 games, yikes. Hopefully it’s a sign for a competitive run to close out the season.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Apr 5 @ 7:35 PM ET
new avatar new me
- Tomahawk


New me? I kind of liked the old me. This "me" may be more problematic. You're not going to become another PT21 are you?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 5 @ 7:36 PM ET
That’s a nasty snipe
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 5 @ 7:36 PM ET
That’s a missed trip. Of course.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 5 @ 7:36 PM ET
terrible goal
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 5 @ 7:37 PM ET
horrible turnover again by who else but Jake, and then Sanheim sits there and does nothing, doesn't take the shooter. What a horrible play all around.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 5 @ 7:37 PM ET
was that voracek being a dofus on the ice?
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Apr 5 @ 7:37 PM ET
Seen this before.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 5 @ 7:37 PM ET
That’s a nasty snipe
- hereticpride

Because he had all the time in the world .. Sanheim did not go out and challenge him.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 5 @ 7:37 PM ET
horrible turnover again by who else but Jake, and then Sanheim sits there and does nothing, doesn't take the shooter. What a horrible play all around.
- jd250


Jake was tripped from behind
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Apr 5 @ 7:38 PM ET
horrible turnover again by who else but Jake, and then Sanheim sits there and does nothing, doesn't take the shooter. What a horrible play all around.
- jd250


Jake was tripped in the defensive zone and the refs either didn't see it or just flat out ignored it. Even Jonesy stated it was a missed call. Not Jake's fault on this occasion!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 5 @ 7:38 PM ET
That’s a missed trip. Of course.
- arichardson22


Clear trip. But textbook example of using a defender as a screen by Kuhlman. He held off on that shot till Sanheim floated by.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 5 @ 7:38 PM ET
Classic Bruins game, how you miss a can opener trip is absolutely unbelievable
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