Here is Craig Button's top 75 NHL prospect list:

https://www.tsn.ca/detroi...-prospects-list-1.1617205

The Flyers have exactly 1 player Cam York and he is number 46. This has to be a kick in the heads of Flyers fans who keep thinking this team has all these prospects just waiting to come up and make a difference. At this point, I would have expected more than 1 prospect from the Flyers would be on this list if their system was really that stacked.
- jd250

Caufield # 2 on the list. No chance the Flyers regret not taking him right?

Caufield # 2 on the list. No chance the Flyers regret not taking him right?
- PLindbergh31

That’s going to depend on York. I didn’t like the flyers passing on CC. So far BB isn’t looking like CC lite.
Since it’s the flyers I’ll say it’s the outsmarting yourself method of drafting.

Button panders hard to his Canadian audience by talking up their teams' prospects. Of that list of 75, about a third of the list belongs to the 7 Canadian franchises. The Maple Leafs have 5 players just by themselves, when their prospect pool is kinda meh. Rasmus Sandin is the 14th best affiliated player? Like wut?

IMO, all these lists are pretty much bullpoop to begin with. But Button/TSN take it to another level. The only list from TSN worth a damn is McKenzie's pre-draft rankings, because that's a survey of all the NHL teams, not opinion.
- Tomahawk

Everyone seems to be bullpoop. Button. Pronman.

Many of these Canadian guys follow/support teams outside the country. Look how many Canadians are regular posters here. Not to speak of how many people will access Button from the US. Then there is the issue of having prospects of teams not in Canada but of rivals in same division that fans would want to know about. And the issue that Canadian fans are pretty knowledgeable and such pandering I would think would destroy credibility.

I don't know enough to toot Button's horn. I know he is supposed to be very idiosyncratic. But what I am saying is that we can't just dismiss prospect assessments when we dislike them and drool when we do.

As opposed to who? The flu vaccine has a 40% efficacy rate. Would you recommend the elderly don't take it?
- PT21

Another silly PT21 analogy.

That’s going to depend on York. I didn’t like the flyers passing on CC. So far BB isn’t looking like CC lite.
Since it’s the flyers I’ll say it’s the outsmarting yourself method of drafting.
- bird_dog_pa

Does York project to be dynamic offensively?
Because undersized defenseman generally aren’t shutdown types. So unless York’s offense is elite, what is his ceiling? I know he plays well positionally. and skates well from watching him in the WJ.

Here is the thing though. If you are going the moderate tanking route (stay competitive, draft in mid round, develop as best you can), you will have to scoop more sand to find gold. I understand this has been a tough month, but I don't understand why it is so tough that we just jump ship.


- PT21

There is no such thing as moderate tanking. If you're attempting to stay competitive, by definition you aren't tanking.

I never asked you
- SuperSchennBros

You sound like a baby, grow up

If the definition of tanking is not competing, the Flyers are most definitely tanking.

What other teams are losing games 9-0 and getting beat by the Sabres?

I don't know enough to toot Button's horn. I know he is supposed to be very idiosyncratic. But what I am saying is that we can't just dismiss prospect assessments when we dislike them and drool when we do.
- PT21

We also can't just blindly accept them because they're written by a perceived authority. It's like an NHL analyst who has the down low on every player in the NHL. Yea, okay. Team need to employ a whole staff of both amateurs' and pro scouts. They need to spend countless hours and travel watching players to get a good read on them. But Joe Blow on a website knows every player in depth and who is better than who.

Caufield # 2 on the list. No chance the Flyers regret not taking him right?
- PLindbergh31

😆🤣 He will be a superstar, book it!

wheeler the slugger

wheeler the slugger

Caufield # 2 on the list. No chance the Flyers regret not taking him right?
- PLindbergh31

They probably will.

But a lot of really terrific goal scores get drafted every year, and a lot of them have trouble carrying that dominance over to the pros. See: Dal Colle, Fabbri, Lazar, Yakupov, Kerby Rychel, etc.

If Caufield even comes close to Debrincat, then a lot of teams are gonna look pretty dumb.

They really need to blow this thing up , I can’t go with a reload on the fly again. Please go young next year and try to get rid of some of these veteran contracts. Trade coots as well , incredible value.

Does York project to be dynamic offensively?
Because undersized defenseman generally aren’t shutdown types. So unless York’s offense is elite, what is his ceiling? I know he plays well positionally. and skates well from watching him in the WJ.
- PLindbergh31

Based on what I have read (and some others here know a lot more), it is probably #2 ceiling, #3 more likely?

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wheeler making it look easy
- 2Real

And he drove in 2 of the 4 runs.

Does York project to be dynamic offensively?
Because undersized defenseman generally aren’t shutdown types. So unless York’s offense is elite, what is his ceiling? I know he plays well positionally. and skates well from watching him in the WJ.
- PLindbergh31

Not dynamic.

He's more a Kimmo/Desjardins type.

They probably will.

But a lot of really terrific goal scores get drafted every year, and a lot of them have trouble carrying that dominance over to the pros. See: Dal Colle, Fabbri, Lazar, Yakupov, Kerby Rychel, etc.

If Caufield even comes close to Debrincat, then a lot of teams are gonna look pretty dumb.
- Tomahawk

Good luck to the kid, not many 5’8 goal scorers out there

Not dynamic.

He's more a Kimmo/Desjardins type.
- Tomahawk

If York has even a similar career to those players the pick will be a homerun.

come on Rhys

But what I am saying is that we can't just dismiss prospect assessments when we dislike them and drool when we do.
- PT21

This I agree with. For sure Flyers fans have hung on to Button's assessments of Sanheim and Morin far too tightly in the past. Same folly as putting any stock in Cam York being the only Flyer in the top-75 of 2021.

There do have a bunch of young talent. The only way path to the cup is through the farm system. Trading prospects for picks makes no sense to me, just delaying. I don't think we would get anything really valuable for either Giroux or Voracek. A trade for a steady D is good, but its not time to give up. This year is shot, next year will be better with the influx of the young guys and the ongoing maturation of guys like Frost, Myers, and Lindblom
- DANCER

I agree that the Flyers best chance is to draft and develop given the landscape in the NHL with the flat cap and ED coming up. When I looked deeper into this article, I realized there must be some players that Button has not seen yet. For example, I think the Flyers have at least 3 potential top players coming up for them, in York, Foerster and O'Brien. York we will see this season, Foerster maybe next season and O'Brien maybe late next season or the season after. I sincerely hope these players can be hits for the Flyers, they really need it.

On the other side, the Flyers need to clear out a few veterans here. I do believe there is a market for Giroux if Fletcher has the stomach for it. I don't see a market for Jake unless the Flyers cover significant salary. We are stuck with Hayes and I think there is a fair chance JVR gets selected in the ED. I would really like a new leadership core in place next year, we need to flush out the current bad vibe that's been hanging over this team for several years now.

If York has even a similar career to those players the pick will be a homerun.
- PLindbergh31

He'll get injured, miss most of the next two years, then we can complain that he's not on some TSN list while Cole Caufield breaks Gretzky's goal record in a single season.

damn

He'll get injured, miss most of the next two years, then we can complain that he's not on some TSN list while Cole Caufield breaks Gretzky's goal record in a single season.
- Tomahawk

Sounds about right. Lol
Fletcher didn’t rule out York seeing NHL games this year.