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nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Apr 6 @ 12:36 PM ET
So a lot of our cap space issue this year is due to performance bonuses from the kids. Who's bonuses are actually attainable this year?
- MeltingPlastic

Shattenkirks hit drops from 6 million to 1.5
Hanks drops from 5.5 to 1.5
Spooner 300k gone
We’re literally adding 9 million to our cap next year just from the buyouts dropping. Smiths 4.5 will also be coming off the books.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 6 @ 12:36 PM ET
Serious question and not trying to start an argument here, we’re projected to be wayyy under the cap next year even after we sign all our guys. I think we both agree going out and making a big splash would be dumb bc eventually these ELC’s will be expiring. So if we have the cap space, why not eat some salary to get a better return? If eating salary prevented us from signing someone I get it, but it’s not going to.
- nyrangers9479

I just don't see how he has any value at this point. He hasn't played any hockey at all for 2 months. Who is going to give up anything worthwhile at this point. The league knows the Rangers are buying him out. They will just wait. It's the smartest thing for all parties.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 6 @ 12:38 PM ET
I agree with Bean Dip here. IMO, I don't think the Rangers should be liberal in cap use, just because it's not becoming a grave issue. I think making sensible decision that allow for flexibility during development years allows the Rangers to fill in gaps within the roster down the line to be a contender. Also, it allows for flexibility for future contracts or trades if some of the prospects don't pan out as intended. I think future thinking is best during the rebuild. My 2 cents.
- NYRCeph

damn hippies
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Apr 6 @ 12:41 PM ET
Shattenkirks hit drops from 6 million to 1.5
Hanks drops from 5.5 to 1.5
Spooner 300k gone
We’re literally adding 9 million to our cap next year just from the buyouts dropping. Smiths 4.5 will also be coming off the books.

- nyrangers9479

Oh there's definitely enough money to go around and they're in a great place to use it.

Maybe my point isn't translating well over text. I agree, use some of it in an ADA trade if it's going to enhance the return, especially if we get an impact player for next year. Do not use it if it's just to trade ADA.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 6 @ 12:45 PM ET
I just don't see how he has any value at this point. He hasn't played any hockey at all for 2 months. Who is going to give up anything worthwhile at this point. The league knows the Rangers are buying him out. They will just wait. It's the smartest thing for all parties.
- TPC



I mostly agree with you but Florida became a wild card in this situation. They lost Ekblad and they need a stop gap. I still doubt he gets moved but who knows?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
Shattenkirks hit drops from 6 million to 1.5
Hanks drops from 5.5 to 1.5
Spooner 300k gone
We’re literally adding 9 million to our cap next year just from the buyouts dropping. Smiths 4.5 will also be coming off the books.

- nyrangers9479


yeah, and Buchnevich gets a new deal

Shesterkin gets a new deal

Chytil get a new deal

Lindgren gets a new deal

we still have all the bonus problems with the ELC contracts and will be adding another one in Lundkvist

it's stupid to waste cap money for absolutely no reason
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 6 @ 12:49 PM ET
I mostly agree with you but Florida became a wild card in this situation. They lost Ekblad and they need a stop gap. I still doubt he gets moved but who knows?
- JRR1285

The biggest thing is how does any team know what the hell he has been doing? The rangers haven't let him play any hockey at all. Is he even in game shape? Will a team give up any real assets for a player they can't count on to play right away. Also the cap hit next year is huge. Teams know he will be a UFA once he is bought out. I just don't see it happening. If he was playing in the AHL during this time, then that's a different story.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 6 @ 12:49 PM ET
I like how they wait for the Rangers games to pass first

Bill Hoppe
@BillHoppeNHL
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42m
Taylor Hall is OUT tonight, per Don Granato. #Sabres
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
I like how they wait for the Rangers games to pass first

Bill Hoppe
@BillHoppeNHL
·
42m
Taylor Hall is OUT tonight, per Don Granato. #Sabres

- jimbro83

Blackwell should bring in more than Hall in a trade
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Apr 6 @ 1:03 PM ET
yeah, and Buchnevich gets a new deal

Shesterkin gets a new deal

Chytil get a new deal

Lindgren gets a new deal

we still have all the bonus problems with the ELC contracts and will be adding another one in Lundkvist

it's stupid to waste cap money for absolutely no reason

- jimbro83

One of Chytil or Buch will not be here next year. I doubt highly Lindgren Buch and Shesty add up to the 13.5 we’re saving in space next year. Getting a better pick or prospect isn’t for no reason.
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Apr 6 @ 1:04 PM ET
Blackwell should bring in more than Hall in a trade
- TPC


It truly is uncanny what draft # you have dictates what you command on the market to an extent. I guess the potential is something each team has to gauge with their own metrics.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 6 @ 1:09 PM ET
One of Chytil or Buch will not be here next year. I doubt highly Lindgren Buch and Shesty add up to the 13.5 we’re saving in space next year. Getting a better pick or prospect isn’t for no reason.
- nyrangers9479



stop thinking with your tits we wanna contend next year
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Apr 6 @ 1:16 PM ET
stop thinking with your tits we wanna contend next year
- jimbro83

This is a contending team, we just need a 3C. I don’t know where else we can add someone to make this team better. Panarin Kreider Kakko Laf Buch Kravtsov as our top 9 wings, who’s getting the bump to make that better? Trouba Miller Fox Lindgren top 4 D, hows that getting better? We upgrading over Shesty? Still have Gauthier Rooney Barron etc for a 4th line. I don’t get what we’re saving cap space for
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 6 @ 1:16 PM ET
This is a contending team, we just need a 3C. I don’t know where else we can add someone to make this team better. Panarin Kreider Kakko Laf Buch Kravtsov as our top 9 wings, who’s getting the bump to make that better? Trouba Miller Fox Lindgren top 4 D, hows that getting better? We upgrading over Shesty? Still have Gauthier Rooney Barron etc for a 4th line. I don’t get what we’re saving cap space for
- nyrangers9479


even if they go into season with cap space, you don't think trades can happen during the season?
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Apr 6 @ 1:25 PM ET
This is a contending team, we just need a 3C. I don’t know where else we can add someone to make this team better. Panarin Kreider Kakko Laf Buch Kravtsov as our top 9 wings, who’s getting the bump to make that better? Trouba Miller Fox Lindgren top 4 D, hows that getting better? We upgrading over Shesty? Still have Gauthier Rooney Barron etc for a 4th line. I don’t get what we’re saving cap space for
- nyrangers9479

I really don't think there's a wrong decision on this. The key will be if there's a worthy trade this season to make it come to fruition.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
I really don't think there's a wrong decision on this. The key will be if there's a worthy trade this season to make it come to fruition.
- Bean_Dip


I can't even tell how shocked I'd be if Florida traded for Tony D when they could have had Ghost from the Flyers off of waivers for free
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
You did? I am 10-1 and only lost to MDW earlier in the season.
- TPC

That was my Stanley Cup
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 6 @ 1:46 PM ET
That was my Stanley Cup
- mdw7413



TPC is gonna lose in the opening round.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
this is great from Tony Amonte

https://twitter.com/andys.../1379489510417895433?s=20
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Apr 6 @ 1:54 PM ET
this is great from Tony Amonte

https://twitter.com/andys.../1379489510417895433?s=20

- jimbro83



nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Apr 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
I can't even tell how shocked I'd be if Florida traded for Tony D when they could have had Ghost from the Flyers off of waivers for free
- jimbro83

RHD vs LHD. One coming off a 60 pt season the other got waived bc how terrible he’s been. Your right, I don’t know why either.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Apr 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
this is great from Tony Amonte

https://twitter.com/andys.../1379489510417895433?s=20

- jimbro83

That's awesome! Recently got into the Chicklets podcast. Love those stories.
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Apr 6 @ 2:01 PM ET
this is great from Tony Amonte

https://twitter.com/andys.../1379489510417895433?s=20

- jimbro83




Love it. It keeps the evidence flowing that Mike Keenan was absolutely Nuts.
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Apr 6 @ 2:02 PM ET
damn hippies
- TPC

Never been called a hippie before. Only online. I guess I am going on craislist nwo and searching for a 79 beetle with huge flowers. Wooooooo
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 6 @ 2:07 PM ET
Love it. It keeps the evidence flowing that Mike Keenan was absolutely Nuts.
- NYRCeph


I saw Kypreos tell a story that him and Healy were playing checkers quietly, back of the plane, for no reason, Keenan got up, walked to the back, looked at them both, smacked their checkers all over the place and walked back to his seat without saying a word
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