44 points in 66 games last year.
- PLindbergh31

5 points in 20 games this year.

5 points in 20 games this year.
- mickel25

Uber skilled tho. Like Panarin-level.

I could see him giving this squad a Ville Leino-esque jolt.

Gusev on waivers. He used to score in the KHL.
- mickel25

In my best Lloyd Christmas: Pick em up!

5 points in 20 games this year.
- mickel25

How many points does poopbagamann have in 18 games this year?

Uber skilled tho. Like Panarin-level.

I could see him giving this squad a Ville Leino-esque jolt.
- Tomahawk

He is a UFA so it wouldn't be some longterm investment. He has zero physicality though. Have plenty of that type of player already.

I am fine either way on this one.

How many points does poopbagamann have in 18 games this year?
- PLindbergh31

That would be 1 in 18 games.

He is a UFA so it wouldn't be some longterm investment. He has zero physicality though. Have plenty of that type of player already.

I am fine either way on this one.
- mickel25

He's like a Ferrari. You don't ask him to haul cargo or offroad. Vroom vroom, go fast, score goals.

Ofc, AV would probably play him on the 4th line w/ Bunnaman and ask him to chip n chase. Then Fletch would put him on the taxi squad for kicks.

He's like a Ferrari. You don't ask him to haul cargo or offroad. Vroom vroom, go fast, score goals.

Ofc, AV would probably play him on the 4th line w/ Bunnaman and ask him to chip n chase. Then Fletch would put him on the taxi squad for kicks.
- Tomahawk

Well, that is definitely what Coach Tortellini in Columbus would do.

Uber skilled tho. Like Panarin-level.

I could see him giving this squad a Ville Leino-esque jolt.
- Tomahawk

He is highly skilled... it’s just he looks disinterested playing in some games....hey wait? He might fit right in.

He's like a Ferrari. You don't ask him to haul cargo or offroad. Vroom vroom, go fast, score goals.

Ofc, AV would probably play him on the 4th line w/ Bunnaman and ask him to chip n chase. Then Fletch would put him on the taxi squad for kicks.
- Tomahawk

Yeah at this point what could it hurt?

He is a highly skilled... it’s just he looks disinterested playing in some games....hey wait? He might fit right in.
- landros 2

He might still be zapped from Covid. Had a few nagging injuries too.

Coaches
John Stevens - October 22, 2006 – December 4, 2009
Peter Laviolette - December 4, 2009 – October 7, 2013
Craig Berube - October 7, 2013 – April 17, 2015
Dave Hakstol - May 18, 2015 – December 17, 2018
Scott Gordon (interim) - December 17, 2018 – April 15, 2019
Alain Vigneault - April 15, 2019 – present

General Managers
Paul Holmgren - October 22, 2006 – May 7, 2014
Ron Hextall - May 7, 2014 – November 26, 2018
Chuck Fletcher - December 3, 2018 – present

There were coaches and GMs I did not like during this time, but what has actually changed?
- Glak18

The players salary’s and the price of going to a game have increased!

Yep, that’s a winning formula for the team and players but not so much for us fans!

This is a tough one, it really depends on this off season. I think some ingredients are there and with the right moves to augment these ingredients they can be "reasonable" contenders even sooner than 4 years. So right now I have to answer 50%
- jd250

Sorry, you nay have misread/misunderstood my original query. Contenders are many, but there is only 1 winner.

Lets be more precise about this. If you were a bookie, what odds would you offer for Flyers to win the cup once in the next 4 years?

(Given the confusion re: the same question, I am going to treat this series as 1 question)

EDIT: Alternatively, you could simply rank teams in likelihood of winning at least 1 cup in the next 4 years in your head, and say where Flyers rank in that order of likelihood.We will get approximate odds from that.

Sorry, you nay have misread/misunderstood my original query. Contenders are many, but there is only 1 winner.

Lets be more precise about this. If you were a bookie, what odds would you offer for Flyers to win the cup once in the next 4 years?

(Given the confusion re: the same question, I am going to treat this series as 1 question)

EDIT: Alternatively, you could simply rank teams in likelihood of winning at least 1 cup in the next 4 years in your head, and say where Flyers rank in that order of likelihood.We will get approximate odds from that.
- PT21

I am going with 8%

Sorry, you nay have misread/misunderstood my original query. Contenders are many, but there is only 1 winner.

Lets be more precise about this. If you were a bookie, what odds would you offer for Flyers to win the cup once in the next 4 years?

(Given the confusion re: the same question, I am going to treat this series as 1 question)

EDIT: Alternatively, you could simply rank teams in likelihood of winning at least 1 cup in the next 4 years in your head, and say where Flyers rank in that order of likelihood.We will get approximate odds from that.
- PT21

What were the odds of the Dallas Stars making it to the finals last year out of the west over Vegas and Colorado? What were the odds in 18/19 of TB losing in the first round. What were the odds of St. Louis winning the Cup.

4 years is an eternity in hockey. An entire roster can be overturned.

I only back read a few pages but did I really see someone suggest we trade coots?? 😳😳

Wow we have sink that low that we would let our seller should-be-captain go?

There is no reason why Couturier can't remain a top center into his middle 30's.
- MJL

Agree with this. And I think Couturier is the PERFECT player you want to help as your team as maybe younger players are coming in. I really think he is the next Captain here and provides what you want from a team leader.

I am going with 8%
- mickel25

Very good, very good.

Ha ha ha.

The optimism in this board is both baffling and heartwarming. That is roughly the same odds that Hurricanes have for this year's cup.

But I will wait till JD250 answers.

Sorry, you nay have misread/misunderstood my original query. Contenders are many, but there is only 1 winner.

Lets be more precise about this. If you were a bookie, what odds would you offer for Flyers to win the cup once in the next 4 years?

(Given the confusion re: the same question, I am going to treat this series as 1 question)

EDIT: Alternatively, you could simply rank teams in likelihood of winning at least 1 cup in the next 4 years in your head, and say where Flyers rank in that order of likelihood.We will get approximate odds from that.
- PT21

I would rank the Flyers behind the Seattle Kraken

Very good, very good.

Ha ha ha.

The optimism in this board is both baffling and heartwarming. That is roughly the same odds that Hurricanes have for this year's cup.

But I will wait till JD250 answers.
- PT21

So 8 is too high? What about a nice even number like 5%?

I only back read a few pages but did I really see someone suggest we trade coots?? 😳😳

Wow we have sink that low that we would let our seller should-be-captain go?
- Bob Habib

Yes, absolutely. Not only that but the main guy suggesting that claims that those that aren't on board with that, are not intelligent people.

I only back read a few pages but did I really see someone suggest we trade coots?? 😳😳

Wow we have sink that low that we would let our seller should-be-captain go?
- Bob Habib

keep selke, keep clode, keep laughton, wait for the "young" guys to grow and get better. Best plan laid out by far.

I would rank the Flyers behind the Seattle Kraken
- Hosher12

Of course! Look no further than Vegas

I would rank the Flyers behind the Seattle Kraken
- Hosher12

thats pretty bad when anyone considers you to be worse than a team that doesnt actually exist yet

Touché. Answered below.



By this, I guess you mean the month of March? Yeah I would say they bear more blame than the players. As to go, no, too early, imo.

Regarding the other stuff of mine you responded too, my argument is really based on the following premise:

Couts' peak and the ascent of our young players are likely not well correlated. My entire premise is rebuilding through youth. It seems too early to give up on any one of our young players now.
- PT21

Ok, tracking better now. You seemed to agree that the Coaches had to go as the original poster stated and that was not how you have spoken to this point.

I agree that Coots may not be the same, and you could get a haul for him, I just think he will be just as valuable mixed with the kids, playing the great defensive forward role he always has and that in itself may be worth it when he is on the back nine of his career. I think you keep him FOR the kids.