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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 31 @ 6:02 PM ET
Yes, you can: “Additionally, a player and team may mutually agree to terminate a contract at any time. This process can only be completed if the player clears unconditional waivers.” (Wiki)

Recently, Jeremy Bracco in Toronto: https://twitter.com/Fried...tatus/1354113014337835010

Anyway, Lindholm, B. Morrison and Q are the obvious choices to give away for a bag of pucks if need be quickly.

- stonefire

Teams and the NHLPA both frown on that route. Its rarely used unless a team is trying to do someone a favor and see if they can catch on with another team for a better opportunity.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 31 @ 6:04 PM ET
Van just signed Demko 5×5. Holtby is now a target for the Hawks cap space.
- mohel

Yeah, but then we have to watch Holtby stink up the place next year and the rest of this season. He has been in decline for 4 seasons. The Caps were able to outscore his goaltending in their Cup year
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 31 @ 6:04 PM ET
That is if they mutually agree
- LAHawk


Can happen when money changes hands.
stonefire
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Prague
Joined: 10.22.2006

Mar 31 @ 6:05 PM ET
There is nothing on CF that Krutil has signed an ELC.
- Elbows15


If I understand correctly, Krutil signed standard AHL contract after his try-out and if he didn’t, he would either have to join Kelowna once WHL started, or return to Europe (probably back to Litoměřice in Czech 2nd tier). Uncertainity over CHL forced the issue, I guess.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 31 @ 6:06 PM ET
Yeah, but then we have to watch Holtby stink up the place next year and the rest of this season. He has been in decline for 4 seasons. The Caps were able to outscore his goaltending in their Cup year
- Elbows15


He can play in Rockford, where only Eli has to watch.

That cap space is for the Hawks to get paid to acquire and hide dogs.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Mar 31 @ 6:08 PM ET
There is nothing on CF that Krutil has signed an ELC.
- Elbows15

Sorry, that's my error. Thanks for catching that.

Krutil was signed to an AHL contract after being on an ATO. So with that correction, the Hawks did good with signing Phillips first to an ELC before Krutil (both are 2020 draft picks).
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 31 @ 6:11 PM ET
I thought he signed an AHL contract for this year. I think he would not be able to go to the W next year since he had a pro contract.

Does Phillips have to go to the OHL next year if he doesn't make CHI?

- totem

I don't think so. He will be 20 by the time next season starts.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Mar 31 @ 6:11 PM ET
That is if they mutually agree
- LAHawk

I believe that was the case with Seeler. He didn't want to report to Rockford so both parties agreed to terminate his contract so he could pursue a job elsewhere.

From what I can gather, he hasn't signed anywhere, not even overseas.

stonefire
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Prague
Joined: 10.22.2006

Mar 31 @ 6:15 PM ET
Teams and the NHLPA both frown on that route. Its rarely used unless a team is trying to do someone a favor and see if they can catch on with another team for a better opportunity.
- Elbows15


Sure, often when the player prefers Europe over AHL/ECHL and nobody cares about loans and/or keeping rights (another example is Filip Chlapík in Ottawa recently).

I also remember a player having his contract terminated this way for being out of shape at the beginning of training camp, Jake Dotchin in Tampa (thanks, Google).
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 31 @ 6:16 PM ET
He can play in Rockford, where only Eli has to watch.

That cap space is for the Hawks to get paid to acquire and hide dogs.

- mohel

JC will play him. I am all for getting more picks but the Canucks aren't going anywhere this season. So, not sure there is any urgency for them to give up a 1st to get rid of him. They are in decent shape for next season, too. Their only crucial RFA is Gaudette.
stonefire
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Prague
Joined: 10.22.2006

Mar 31 @ 6:16 PM ET
I believe that was the case with Seeler. He didn't want to report to Rockford so both parties agreed to terminate his contract so he could pursue a job elsewhere.

From what I can gather, he hasn't signed anywhere, not even overseas.

- Theo Fox


Oh, Seeler… totally forgot about him already
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 31 @ 6:23 PM ET
JC will play him. I am all for getting more picks but the Canucks aren't going anywhere this season. So, not sure there is any urgency for them to give up a 1st to get rid of him. They are in decent shape for next season, too. Their only crucial RFA is Gaudette.
- Elbows15


He's just an example. And I didn't say a 1st. I think they have Pettersson and Hughes, too.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 31 @ 6:27 PM ET
JC will play him. I am all for getting more picks but the Canucks aren't going anywhere this season. So, not sure there is any urgency for them to give up a 1st to get rid of him. They are in decent shape for next season, too. Their only crucial RFA is Gaudette.
- Elbows15


Petterson and Hughes?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 31 @ 6:42 PM ET
He's just an example. And I didn't say a 1st. I think they have Pettersson and Hughes, too.
- mohel

Missed them. Pettersen is on LTIR at the moment. Didn't scroll down far enough.

I said a 1st because that is the only way I would take on that contract. What is the point otherwise? Hawks could use that 5M/6M in a different area.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 31 @ 6:42 PM ET
JFC. There are about 30 UFA goalies after this season.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 31 @ 6:45 PM ET
JFC. There are about 30 UFA goalies after this season.
- Elbows15

Not even Bowman can screw up and not come out with one goalie.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 31 @ 6:51 PM ET
Not even Bowman can screw up and not come out with one goalie.
- paulr


You really underestimate Bowmans abilities not to screw up.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Mar 31 @ 6:56 PM ET
You really underestimate Bowmans abilities not to screw up.
- BetweenTheDots

BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 31 @ 7:20 PM ET
Sell if it is a hockey deal or financial deal that makes sense. No rush to move Soderberg or Janmark unless there is a decent return. deHaan is another story.
- Ztra


Agreed, the more i watch Soda and Janmark I'm fine with getting some kind of quality prospect or quality draft pick for them, they have faded down the stretch like many players on this team have

deHaan is getting worse by the game sad to say
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 31 @ 7:21 PM ET

- Theo Fox


That's right so many do, hahaha
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 31 @ 7:22 PM ET
JFC. There are about 30 UFA goalies after this season.
- Elbows15


Which surprises me why the Canucks paid so much for Demko

(frank), how much is Lanky going to cost us if he keeps performing the way he is
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 31 @ 7:50 PM ET
https://twitter.com/goice.../1377275214158049284?s=01

Very impressive considering the defense playing in front of him

Ties Hasek
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 31 @ 8:17 PM ET
Agreed, the more i watch Soda and Janmark I'm fine with getting some kind of quality prospect or quality draft pick for them, they have faded down the stretch like many players on this team have

deHaan is getting worse by the game sad to say

- BetweenTheDots


It's unfortunate that de Haan has fallen off as much as he has. I actually think Janmark and Soderberg are playing the exact same as they have been. They are just middle six guys.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 31 @ 8:22 PM ET
Missed them. Pettersen is on LTIR at the moment. Didn't scroll down far enough.

I said a 1st because that is the only way I would take on that contract. What is the point otherwise? Hawks could use that 5M/6M in a different area.

- Elbows15


Stan to Van: I'll take Loui and Holtby off your hands. Gives you $9M to resign your guys and add a bit to your roster. Your fans are getting tired of waiting... Throw me a #1 and a #3 and you can have it all.

Van to Stan: ?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 31 @ 8:43 PM ET
Stan to Van: I'll take Loui and Holtby off your hands. Gives you $9M to resign your guys and add a bit to your roster. Your fans are getting tired of waiting... Throw me a #1 and a #3 and you can have it all.

Van to Stan: ?

- mohel



They both have no trade clauses, Stan should ask for more.
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