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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 5:52 PM ET
Cool. At provie s age or now?
- Peter Richards


Now. I doubt that Provorov will ever get to the level of Hedman.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Mar 30 @ 5:53 PM ET
Point shot velocity is so overrated.

If the pucks don't get through, or they're not on net, what's the point?

Prov hits the net.

- Tomahawk


I find most our guys outside of Ghost have a very difficult time getting picks thru.
Myers and Braun are among the worst at getting blocked high and leading to transition for the other team while our forwards are all trapped down low.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Mar 30 @ 5:55 PM ET
Yes. I’m also looking at the age. Hedman is 30. He was good but not didn’t dominate until about 24-25. At 24 both hedman is a step ahead.
- Peter Richards


If Hedman avoids injuries he can be elite through this contract and get another massive deal when he is 35.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 30 @ 6:02 PM ET
I find most our guys outside of Ghost have a very difficult time getting picks thru.
Myers and Braun are among the worst at getting blocked high and leading to transition for the other team while our forwards are all trapped down low.

- Buzzo


Gus is actually terrific at getting pucks through. Maybe his single best trait and why he scores so many pts.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:05 PM ET
That is when the vultures start to circle......

I covet these players, if you don't trade or draft one? You break the bank in FA.

Plus you prevent him from going to the Rangers.

I am serious. Any 2 roster players or prospects other than Coutourier, and 3 firsts. Add protections if needed, just try at least.

EDIT: 2 firsts and 2 'right to swap position' firsts.

- DrMidnite

I’d make anyone not named Provorov available for Eichel.

Unfortunately I think we’re already going to be spending a good deal of assets to fix the defense.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 30 @ 6:07 PM ET
Now. I doubt that Provorov will ever get to the level of Hedman.
- MJL

Never said he would. Now think of hedman at 24. And remember I said hedman was better in every category our scales are different. That’s fine.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Mar 30 @ 6:13 PM ET
I’d make anyone not named Provorov available for Eichel.

Unfortunately I think we’re already going to be spending a good deal of assets to fix the defense.

- hereticpride


What a mess
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 30 @ 6:13 PM ET
If Hedman avoids injuries he can be elite through this contract and get another massive deal when he is 35.
- DrMidnite


Yea. He is the new Lindstrom. Just bigger and faster. And will clarify. In the game now. He is no lindstrom.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 30 @ 6:15 PM ET
Yea. He is the new Lindstrom. Just bigger and faster.
- Peter Richards


Hedman reeks of HOF.

Prov has a Ryan Suter ceiling. Still good, but nowhere near.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 30 @ 6:16 PM ET
So Ghost waived? Any whispers of “the other shoe”?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 30 @ 6:27 PM ET
I have to disagree here. The gap between Hedman and Provorov is way bigger than that. Provorov is not close to being the player that Hedman is. A player like Hedman is like Pronger was. He completely controls the game. He controls the puck, the pace of play, where the puck goes and is dominant on both sides of the puck. Provorov is a good player but he is not in the class of Hedman
- MJL


Hedmans even better than pronger
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 30 @ 6:32 PM ET
Gus is actually terrific at getting pucks through. Maybe his single best trait and why he scores so many pts.
- Tomahawk



Maybe his single trait
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 30 @ 6:52 PM ET
So ghost practiced with the team today
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 30 @ 7:02 PM ET
Who is a Devils fan tonight
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 7:09 PM ET
Never said he would. Now think of hedman at 24. And remember I said hedman was better in every category our scales are different. That’s fine.
- Peter Richards


I don't see how our scales are different. I get that you're breaking it down in categories. I'll make my point again. Provorov is not close to Hedman in any category. Not now or when Hedman was 24. When Hedman was 24, he was finishing in the top 10 in Norris Trophy voting.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 7:09 PM ET
Yea. He is the new Lindstrom. Just bigger and faster. And will clarify. In the game now. He is no lindstrom.
- Peter Richards


A better comparison for Hedman is Pronger.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 7:10 PM ET
Hedmans even better than pronger
- Just5


I don't agree.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 30 @ 7:13 PM ET
Prosser is not taking up cap space, and Gust has trade value as a deadline rental.
- jd250

Does he?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 30 @ 7:15 PM ET
IF ghost goes to another team, I can't wait to see the love pour out for him all of a sudden.
- Ftown19125

There should be a Statue created and put outside of well Fargo
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Mar 30 @ 7:15 PM ET
1. So, what's the point of waiving Ghost? Unknown, you can bet there will be guessing again tomorrow afternoon once we know if he is claimed or clears.

2. If he doesn't get picked up does that mean they'll be able to bring him back up and drop him back down to the taxi squad without having to expose him again? Yes, for 30 days or 10 games...something like that.

3. Is this just about clearing some cap space? At least partly, whether that motivation is for this season or next remains to be seen.

- NC Flyers Fan


Thanks!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 30 @ 7:16 PM ET
Hedmans even better than pronger
- Just5

No he isn’t.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 30 @ 7:22 PM ET
I don't agree.
- MJL


You know what? The argument might not be as far apart as I originally thought.

Chris Pronger’s best season by far in 1999-00 by winning league MVP I believe. 62 points, a plus 52!!

Hedman has a 72 point season, also a 63 season but Hedman doesn’t have to plus/minus seasons Pronger has. A lot in the plus 20 range. Wow!!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 30 @ 7:30 PM ET
Devils have beaten Boston 3 times at the garden this year. The Bruins have 1 even strength goal against them, they just scored it. Bruins are 30th in the league 5v5 scoring, only Sabers are worse.

Man they would like Flyer stats
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 30 @ 7:30 PM ET
You know what? The argument might not be as far apart as I originally thought.

Chris Pronger’s best season by far in 1999-00 by winning league NVP I believe. 62 points, a plus 52!!

Hedman has a 72 point season, also a 63 season but Hedman doesn’t have to plus/minus seasons Pronger has. A lot in the plus 20 range. Wow!!

- SuperSchennBros


The difference between Hedman and Pronger won't be found in the pts or +/-.

Pronger was a nasty piece of work and there was literally no line he wouldn't cross to win. He was like Bob Clarke on defense. Hedman's a choir boy by comparison.

Just ask Dean McAmmond, Ryan Kesler and Tomas Holmstrom.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Mar 30 @ 8:04 PM ET
So I just saw from one of those flyers Facebook pages that they’re interested in Bernier? No way that’s true right?
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