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jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Mar 30 @ 7:28 AM ET


I also called this team winning this division. No team in this division scares me and I think the Jets are a shoe in for the semi-finals and that is with Uncle Paul coaching this team. I have said it since the beginning, this is the year to make a run at the cup, especially considering that we do not have to face any central division rivals along the way!

- TheUltimateJet


It's fine as a fan to believe and be positive. I am a proponent of that. However, one should also be realistic. The top four teams in the CDN division can each beat one another on any given night. Their record against each other supports that. So getting out of our own division is a task in itself. Then there is the NHL semis. One team will have to likely quarantine for at least 7 days. Will practices be allowed during quarantine or will one team have a huge advantage?

There are also some very good teams this year. TB, Carolina, Washington. Vegas , and Colorado are all extremely good hockey teams. Jets rank 10th in winning percentage. It will be a very tough year for a Canadian team to win this if the NHL chooses a USA destination for the final two rounds.

The bottom line is that I see little chance that Chevy is going to bet the farm this year and throw away 1st round picks are top prospects. Tweaks at most. One must also remember that any incoming player has a lot less time to learn a new system especially if they have to quarantine for 7 days. A trade might work best from a Canadian team such as VCR. The problem is that Guys like Edler and Benn both are lefties and Edler might cost too much anyways. So highly unlikely.

Expect tweaks only. Those who say this IS the year to win it are mistaken. The Jets have a very good locked-up core that will be here for several more years and Chevy has enough cap room and reserve talent to deal with any UFA losses on the third and fourth lines. The window is still 4 years.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 30 @ 9:48 AM ET
It's fine as a fan to believe and be positive. I am a proponent of that. However, one should also be realistic. The top four teams in the CDN division can each beat one another on any given night. Their record against each other supports that. So getting out of our own division is a task in itself. Then there is the NHL semis. One team will have to likely quarantine for at least 7 days. Will practices be allowed during quarantine or will one team have a huge advantage?

There are also some very good teams this year. TB, Carolina, Washington. Vegas , and Colorado are all extremely good hockey teams. Jets rank 10th in winning percentage. It will be a very tough year for a Canadian team to win this if the NHL chooses a USA destination for the final two rounds.

The bottom line is that I see little chance that Chevy is going to bet the farm this year and throw away 1st round picks are top prospects. Tweaks at most. One must also remember that any incoming player has a lot less time to learn a new system especially if they have to quarantine for 7 days. A trade might work best from a Canadian team such as VCR. The problem is that Guys like Edler and Benn both are lefties and Edler might cost too much anyways. So highly unlikely.

Expect tweaks only. Those who say this IS the year to win it are mistaken. The Jets have a very good locked-up core that will be here for several more years and Chevy has enough cap room and reserve talent to deal with any UFA losses on the third and fourth lines. The window is still 4 years.

- jetsnation



This post is full of many errors. Yes any team in this division can beat any other on any given night. Do you realistically believe that any Canadian team can beat the Jets in a 7 game series?

Our core is locked up for 3 more years and not infinity more years. Our best chance to win is while Scheifele is on his current contract after that we will have to overpay for him, thus really messing up our salary cap situation. Wheeler is 34 and Stastny is 35, do not really know how many more productive years those guys have (maybe 1 at max 2?).

If you believe that trading Vesalainen a first (32nd) overall (in a draft where no one really knows how to rank players) and Perreault is the farm, we have very different ideas on what selling the farm is.

Finally the Jets do not have to play an American opponent until the semi-finals and by that point it all comes down to coaching and goaltending. Goaltending we have the advantage on. Coaching.....you know my take.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Mar 30 @ 10:07 AM ET
We could all live on hypotheticals. I remember one time everyone on here was calling Laine a generational goal scorer and I boldly said he was following the Jimmy Carson career trajectory to only get laughed at. I called that. I also called a major upswing in Ehlers points after Laine, and correct me if I am wrong, I also called Logan Stanley being a stud. I think I am scoring pretty good these days.

I also called this team winning this division. No team in this division scares me and I think the Jets are a shoe in for the semi-finals and that is with Uncle Paul coaching this team. I have said it since the beginning, this is the year to make a run at the cup, especially considering that we do not have to face any central division rivals along the way!

- TheUltimateJet


And on numerous posts, I said that Ehlers was a RW not a LW.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 30 @ 10:18 AM ET
And on numerous posts, I said that Ehlers was a RW not a LW.
- bennythehat



Speaking of Ehlers, 36 points in 36 games. He’s officially a point per game player. The “generational goal scorer” really hampered this players development the most.

Ehlers can really drive a line and I think he’s ready for even more responsibility on this team. Connor is also showing evolution to his game. His one timer from the top of the circle keeps on getting better and better.

Funny how some on here thought that the “generational goal scorer” was the best out the 3.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Mar 30 @ 10:33 AM ET
This post is full of many errors. Yes any team in this division can beat any other on any given night. Do you realistically believe that any Canadian team can beat the Jets in a 7 game series?

Our core is locked up for 3 more years and not infinity more years. Our best chance to win is while Scheifele is on his current contract after that we will have to overpay for him, thus really messing up our salary cap situation. Wheeler is 34 and Stastny is 35, do not really know how many more productive years those guys have (maybe 1 at max 2?).

If you believe that trading Vesalainen a first (32nd) overall (in a draft where no one really knows how to rank players) and Perreault is the farm, we have very different ideas on what selling the farm is.

Finally the Jets do not have to play an American opponent until the semi-finals and by that point it all comes down to coaching and goaltending. Goaltending we have the advantage on. Coaching.....you know my take.

- TheUltimateJet


Wheeler looks done already, I'm hoping Vesalainen can be a top 6 winger replacement for him.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
Wheeler looks done already, I'm hoping Vesalainen can be a top 6 winger replacement for him.
- JetFuel


One area where Wheeler has excelled is the power play and that is what he is at this point of his career a power play specialist. Theoretically, he should be on the third line to limit his own minutes and only come out full force when the Jets have the man advantage. I would love to see what Apples can do with either Dubois or Scheifele.

Jetlag
Joined: 01.18.2021

Mar 30 @ 10:47 AM ET
I was reading comments on the Flames post and wow! You'd think there was a conspiracy to force the Jets into the Cup finals. The body check by Dubois on Tanev was a major for boarding (clean hit IMO), the kicked in goal by Thompson (50/50 and could've gone either way IMO - not to mention he was being heavily hooked), the no goal that should've been for Flames (Lucic clearly made contact with Helle's head knocking it into the crossbar and partially dislodging his mask). I know as Jets fans we don't always like the calls, but short of much of the 1st period they absolutely manhandled the Flames.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Mar 30 @ 10:53 AM ET
One area where Wheeler has excelled is the power play and that is what he is at this point of his career a power play specialist. Theoretically, he should be on the third line to limit his own minutes and only come out full force when the Jets have the man advantage. I would love to see what Apples can do with either Dubois or Scheifele.
- TheUltimateJet


I've been calling for 3rd line Wheeler for awhile, softer matchups and less minutes would do him good, he'd still get his powerplay time, also think it's time to give Appleton an audition in the top 6, he's earned it.

TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 30 @ 11:17 AM ET
I've been calling for 3rd line Wheeler for awhile, softer matchups and less minutes would do him good, he'd still get his powerplay time, also think it's time to give Appleton an audition in the top 6, he's earned it.
- JetFuel


Crazy to think that Appleton would never have been given an opportunity if Roslovic was still here!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 30 @ 11:22 AM ET
We could all live on hypotheticals. I remember one time everyone on here was calling Laine a generational goal scorer and I boldly said he was following the Jimmy Carson career trajectory to only get laughed at. I called that. I also called a major upswing in Ehlers points after Laine, and correct me if I am wrong, I also called Logan Stanley being a stud. I think I am scoring pretty good these days.

I also called this team winning this division. No team in this division scares me and I think the Jets are a shoe in for the semi-finals and that is with Uncle Paul coaching this team. I have said it since the beginning, this is the year to make a run at the cup, especially considering that we do not have to face any central division rivals along the way!

- TheUltimateJet


ease up on the self love pal, its a bit rich.

Laine and Stanley's career's are far from etched in stone. Stanley is NOT a stud yet, lets hope he becomes that but right now he is exceeding expectations of NOT being an NHL'er by showing he can play against the other teams bottoms 6 in a bottom pairing role. that's all he's shown thus far. I am hopeful for more but simmer down.

I have been all over how good Ehlers is for years, as have many so clearly not a hot ultimate take on that one.

we have traded multiple first rounders and prospects at the deadline in the past as you wanted and yet no cup, this is a fact. its not that easy.

our third line is performing as a top 3 third line in the league, have you not said for years Lowry sucks and is only a fourth liner? how then can he be centering a top 3 third line in the NHL? swing and a miss on that one hey?

we all make mistakes, I said Stanley will never play in the NHL, I am happy to be wrong. it's ok to admit mistakes.

how come you never admit your mistakes?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
Speaking of Ehlers, 36 points in 36 games. He’s officially a point per game player. The “generational goal scorer” really hampered this players development the most.

Ehlers can really drive a line and I think he’s ready for even more responsibility on this team. Connor is also showing evolution to his game. His one timer from the top of the circle keeps on getting better and better.

Funny how some on here thought that the “generational goal scorer” was the best out the 3.

- TheUltimateJet


I honestly don't remember anyone saying that. I know Rexy and I always said Ehlers was the best and many, many on here said Connor.
for the record, I still like Laine, and have always said he needs the right situation and right line mates, yes, way more needy than others but put in the right situation he can still score 50 every year.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 30 @ 12:14 PM ET
ease up on the self love pal, its a bit rich.

Laine and Stanley's career's are far from etched in stone. Stanley is NOT a stud yet, lets hope he becomes that but right now he is exceeding expectations of NOT being an NHL'er by showing he can play against the other teams bottoms 6 in a bottom pairing role. that's all he's shown thus far. I am hopeful for more but simmer down.

I have been all over how good Ehlers is for years, as have many so clearly not a hot ultimate take on that one.

we have traded multiple first rounders and prospects at the deadline in the past as you wanted and yet no cup, this is a fact. its not that easy.

our third line is performing as a top 3 third line in the league, have you not said for years Lowry sucks and is only a fourth liner? how then can he be centering a top 3 third line in the NHL? swing and a miss on that one hey?

we all make mistakes, I said Stanley will never play in the NHL, I am happy to be wrong. it's ok to admit mistakes.

how come you never admit your mistakes?

- Ross77



Last I checked, we traded 2 first rounders and one we ended up getting back in a trade. So essentially the Jets have only not had a first round pick once.

Lowry is terrible as a third line center. Majority of the production is coming from Copp and Appleton or Perreault when he was up with him. After his hot start during the first 6 games, how many points has he scored?

TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 30 @ 12:15 PM ET

I honestly don't remember anyone saying that. I know Rexy and I always said Ehlers was the best and many, many on here said Connor.
for the record, I still like Laine, and have always said he needs the right situation and right line mates, yes, way more needy than others but put in the right situation he can still score 50 every year.

- Ross77



Still score 50 every year? When was the last time he did that?
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Mar 30 @ 12:39 PM ET
Still score 50 every year? When was the last time he did that?
- TheUltimateJet


I'm reading Ross is saying "he's still young enough to score 50".

Does that make sense to you?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 30 @ 12:50 PM ET
Still score 50 every year? When was the last time he did that?
- TheUltimateJet


how old is he? is he retiring and I missed the memo. the kid has a lot of time to put up a couple 50 goal seasons. I hope he does, sorry I don't hate him or route against him. I wish the best for him.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 30 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'm reading Ross is saying "he's still young enough to score 50".

Does that make sense to you?

- grahamzky



thank you,
I didn't read this before responding, but yes, that's what i was trying to say
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 30 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'm reading Ross is saying "he's still young enough to score 50".

Does that make sense to you?

- grahamzky



thank you,
I didn't read this before responding, but yes, that's what i was trying to say
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Mar 30 @ 12:53 PM ET
Wondering if Giordano is becoming available as flames have about 1% chance of making the playoffs. He has one more year on his 6.75m contract, LD.

It would cost lots, likely Heinola or Samburg and a 1st. Low maintenance vet on from a Canadian club, still with decent advanced stats, PP or PK, at least a top four d.

no idea if he wants to stay or go or if Wpg is on his 19team approved trade list.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 30 @ 12:55 PM ET
Last I checked, we traded 2 first rounders and one we ended up getting back in a trade. So essentially the Jets have only not had a first round pick once.

Lowry is terrible as a third line center. Majority of the production is coming from Copp and Appleton or Perreault when he was up with him. After his hot start during the first 6 games, how many points has he scored?

- TheUltimateJet


Well if you goy minutes Lowry's line is actually our 2nd line. and therefor the position we are in, in the standings ( which you have said we will finish first ) I guess is largely in part to whoever is playing the most. so ya, you are wrong about Lowry since he is clearly playing a major part in us winning hockey games.

but if you want to keep thinking Stanley is Bobby Orr and Lowry is Peter Taglianetti, knock yourself out.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Mar 30 @ 12:57 PM ET
Wondering if Giordano is becoming available as flames have about 1% chance of making the playoffs. He has one more year on his 6.75m contract, LD.

It would cost lots, likely Heinola or Samburg and a 1st. Low maintenance vet on from a Canadian club, still with decent advanced stats, PP or PK, at least a top four d.

no idea if he wants to stay or go or if Wpg is on his 19team approved trade list.

- 2.0



I wouldn't pay that price or anything close it, he has not looked very good to me at all. Cant pay for the player he was 4 years ago, he is not that anymore.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Mar 30 @ 2:05 PM ET
The missing piece for the Jets right now.....

He used to wear #33.
Too bad he is probably out of shape and maybe unmotivated to come back....
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Mar 30 @ 2:06 PM ET
I wouldn't pay that price or anything close it, he has not looked very good to me at all. Cant pay for the player he was 4 years ago, he is not that anymore.
- Ross77


I'm running with the theory that a 1st (around 22-27th overall) isn't as much of a sure thing this year, and to make room for a top defensemen in the lineup we need to shuffle someone down and someone out. If left exposed to Seattle then Jets have essentially lost (heinola/samberg) and an iffy 1st rounder. Jets D overall would be in good shape for at least another year.

Ultimately what stops me from doing this is that he is LD and not RD. Maybe they trade Stanley and a pick and keep Heinola/Samberg.

Morrissey-Poolman
Forbort-Pionk
Giordano-Demelo

PP gets Giordano.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Mar 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
Well if you goy minutes Lowry's line is actually our 2nd line. and therefor the position we are in, in the standings ( which you have said we will finish first ) I guess is largely in part to whoever is playing the most. so ya, you are wrong about Lowry since he is clearly playing a major part in us winning hockey games.

but if you want to keep thinking Stanley is Bobby Orr and Lowry is Peter Taglianetti, knock yourself out.

- Ross77


I will believe that Copp is a 25G 60P player, Appleton is a 20G 40P, and Lowry 15G 40P next year when they play an 82 game season against the entire NHL and not just this garbage North division where the playoff teams are already set with 20 games still to go.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 30 @ 2:56 PM ET
how old is he? is he retiring and I missed the memo. the kid has a lot of time to put up a couple 50 goal seasons. I hope he does, sorry I don't hate him or route against him. I wish the best for him.
- Ross77



Let’s just start with him getting another 20 goal season first. Torts has been great with talented players in the past: Lecavalier, St. Louis, Richards, Panarin, just to name a few. With #29, it always seems that he needs a special player to make him special, and now I am also hearing he needs a special coach too.

No one is routing against him, just identifying him for what he is.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Mar 30 @ 2:58 PM ET
Wondering if Giordano is becoming available as flames have about 1% chance of making the playoffs. He has one more year on his 6.75m contract, LD.

It would cost lots, likely Heinola or Samburg and a 1st. Low maintenance vet on from a Canadian club, still with decent advanced stats, PP or PK, at least a top four d.

no idea if he wants to stay or go or if Wpg is on his 19team approved trade list.

- 2.0


Never would it cost that much, as BW pointed out earlier, Karlsson and Stone never got that big of a return for the Sens.
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