I don’t think Brass is the choice for filling Lee’s roll. We will agree to disagree. There are better options out there for that
- nyisles7

Well, no one really knows obviously but before we become too dismissive of what WE consider a bad idea, do remember that Leo Komarov is presently your first line wing. In addition, with a minute left and the goalie pulled, he was Barry's choice to employ as the extra skater. Apparently only we fools search for logic

It was hilarious hearing the commentators suggest that Leo has made the top line better defensively, as though that's what the team needed with the loss of Lee. It's your top SCORING line and they are now producing less than half the gpg. How on iearth can a coach allow the top line to struggle like this without making a change?
- keaner17

I don't understand it.

I don't understand it.


- JimmyP

I can’t believe everyone keeps asking;

“What aren’t we scoring?”

Trotz napalmed the Pageau line along with our first line. I’ll also add he thought Johnston and Komarov had great games last night so expect more of the same. I’ll get attacked and I say bring it because I’ll own it but this is some terrible personnel decisions just as bad as Capuano. Anyone who does attack me I want you to explain your side and don’t tell me “Lee’s injured” there are other options besides Komarov on the first line. I invite anyone to tell me the thought process behind Leo Komarov being on the first line after being waived twice. I’ll be waiting...

Well, no one really knows obviously but before we become too dismissive of what WE consider a bad idea, do remember that Leo Komarov is presently your first line wing. In addition, with a minute left and the goalie pulled, he was Barry's choice to employ as the extra skater. Apparently only we fools search for logic
- keaner17

That was laughable when he was out there with varlamov pulled. I’ll say it again but it’s like trotz is trying to make a point that’s falling on deaf ears. That’s the only explanation I have for these line up decisions.

That was laughable when he was out there with varlamov pulled. I’ll say it again but it’s like trotz is trying to make a point that’s falling on deaf ears. That’s the only explanation I have for these line up decisions.
- Cptmjl

I still get a kick out of those announcers trying to tell us that despite the first lines lack of production, the goals against stat shows what Leo brings. So congratulations, we just turned our first line with one of the top players in the league into a checking line.

I'm not optimistic that we'll trade for a high impact guy, honestly. If Lee had been healthy and we had cap space, I think a high profile rental like Hall would make sense, but even if we acquire him now, we still won't be any better than we were with Lee in the lineup pre trade. So the question is, what price should we really be willlng to pay? I have a feeling because of that, any acquisitions will be fringe guys like a Derrick Brassard

I still get a kick out of those announcers trying to tell us that despite the first lines lack of production, the goals against stat shows what Leo brings. So congratulations, we just turned our first line with one of the top players in the league into a checking line.

I'm not optimistic that we'll trade for a high impact guy, honestly. If Lee had been healthy and we had cap space, I think a high profile rental like Hall would make sense, but even if we acquire him now, we still won't be any better than we were with Lee in the lineup pre trade. So the question is, what price should we really be willlng to pay? I have a feeling because of that, any acquisitions will be fringe guys like a Derrick Brassard
- keaner17

I think it can go either way. Acquire 2-3 decent players for depth including maybe a Brassard so you don’t have Komarov in the line up or 1 maybe 2 guys with one being a Palmieri or Hall type player to make an impact. I’m on board with either of those scenarios and hope we find some instant chemistry. If we don’t ok but I think we should 100% go for it this line up is getting long in the tooth...

Just watched some of last night's game and with 232 left and an empty net I saw Leo Komarov on the ice and for the life of me I can't figure out why. If he is one of your top 6 players at the most clutch time of the game then you are (frank)ed

The guy I’d be really into adding, someone mentioned the other day, is Dustin Brown. He’s respected, he’s a Cup winner and he’s the closest thing to Lee there is out there.

1) what would it cost to get him?
2) he has a 5 million cap hit for next season.

I want Palmeri but I question what it would cost for him and I don’t like trading within the division when you’re sending serious assets.

Garland is heavily rumoured to be available as well. He’s a scoring RFA winger making only 3/4 million. I’d happily give Arizona a 1st for him.
- Wildschwein

Yeah and at that number we can bring Brass back as well. That makes some sense

I think it’s time to fire Trotz. Since Lee’s injury he has lost his mind and it looks like dementia is starting to rear its evil head.

The guy I’d be really into adding, someone mentioned the other day, is Dustin Brown. He’s respected, he’s a Cup winner and he’s the closest thing to Lee there is our there.

1) what would it cost to get him?
2) he has a 5 million cap hit for next season.

I want Palmeri but I question what it would cost for him and I don’t like trading within the division when you’re sending serious assets.
- potvin05

Not sure it would take serious assets? He’s having a down year but I guess it depends on how many other teams are in on him...

Just watched some of last night's game and with 232 left and an empty net I saw Leo Komarov on the ice and for the life of me I can't figure out why. If he is one of your top 6 players at the most clutch time of the game then you are (frank)ed
- Upstate_isles

Arizona is 1 point out of a playoff spot so why would they trade anybody?

Not sure it would take serious assets? He’s having a down year but I guess it depends on how many other teams are in on him...
- Cptmjl

He has 14 goals. He’d be on pace for a 40-goal season if they were playing the usual amount of games. The Kings are clearly not making the playoffs though and I could see Brown waiving his NTC to play here. He’s a native NYer too, but I don’t know if that means anything this late in his career.

Obviously his 5.8 million number for next season would be a concern though.

Not sure it would take serious assets? He’s having a down year but I guess it depends on how many other teams are in on him...
- Cptmjl

Boston seems to be in the mix on Palmieri and as I said yesterday he lives in Ma. in the off season. They also can dangle DeBrusk to Jersey which is immediate help in replacing Palmieri. With DeBrusk moved they can also probs sign Palmieri to a contract as well.

Arizona is 1 point out of a playoff spot so why would they trade anybody?
- potvin05

Haven’t a clue. But most insiders are saying they’re shopping players. Good ones too.

Arizona is 1 point out of a playoff spot so why would they trade anybody?
- potvin05

Because they have no money to sign UFAs and RFAs. Kinda like the Islanders in the Millstein etc. years.

The guy I’d be really into adding, someone mentioned the other day, is Dustin Brown. He’s respected, he’s a Cup winner and he’s the closest thing to Lee there is out there.

1) what would it cost to get him?
2) he has a 5 million cap hit for next season.

I want Palmeri but I question what it would cost for him and I don’t like trading within the division when you’re sending serious assets.
- potvin05

I’d want LA to eat some of that contract, but yeah. He wouldn’t be the worst option.

He has 14 goals. He’d be on pace for a 40-goal season if they were playing the usual amount of games. The Kings are clearly not making the playoffs though and I could see Brown waiving his NTC to play here. He’s a native NYer too, but I don’t know if that means anything this late in his career.
- potvin05

I was referring to Palmieri when I said “down year”. The problem with Brown is that second year and that’s a big problem for multiple reasons.

Because they have no money to sign UFAs and RFAs. Kinda like the Islanders in the Millstein etc. years.
- nyisles7

Oof, don’t remind me.

Boston seems to be in the mix on Palmieri and as I said yesterday he lives in Ma. in the off season. They also can dangle DeBrusk to Jersey which is immediate help in replacing Palmieri. With DeBrusk moved they can also probs sign Palmieri to a contract as well.
- nyisles7

Yep. If it were that easy of a sale and no brainer for the Devils and Bruins it would’ve happened already though. If the Bruins are buyers they wouldn’t be waiting to make moves they’re not exactly in the best spot. Not saying the bruins aren’t making a play for Palmieri I’m saying there’s something delaying it if they are. It’s not a slam dunk.


Also, not so sure how much Palmieri wanting to go to the bruins even if that we’re the case is going to play into the Devils decision on who to trade him too. You can also say he’s from smithtown. Haha. He’ll go to whomever the Devils can get the best deal from barring NTC or NMC of course...

I was referring to Palmieri when I said “down year”. The problem with Brown is that second year and that’s a big problem for multiple reasons.
- Cptmjl

Oh.

Yeah, I added it a late edit to my last post. Next years number is an obvious concern.

A guy like Brown makes us a real serious Cup contender as far as I’m concerned so I think if you have a chance to get him, and Lou has shown this in the past, you say (frank) next season and go for it now.

He has 14 goals. He’d be on pace for a 40-goal season if they were playing the usual amount of games. The Kings are clearly not making the playoffs though and I could see Brown waiving his NTC to play here. He’s a native NYer too, but I don’t know if that means anything this late in his career.

Obviously his 5.8 million number for next season would be a concern though.
- potvin05

That year left at 5.8 makes it real tough next year when Lee’s 7 million hits and Pelech, Beau and sOROk9n have to be signed with about 75 million invested in 15 players with a Cap of 81.5.

Oof, don’t remind me.
- potvin05

yeah I know I had flashbacks while writing it, but that’s where the Yotes are at and have been for years.
They could have easily have moved them to LV but then the NHL doesn’t get the 500 million dollars Entry/Franchise Fee. It’s always about the $$$$$.

I wonder if the Blues wouldn’t part with Hoffman?

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