He’s putting up 1.5 pts/60 5v5 (bottom six rate), shooting on a very unsustainable 18.2%, and his relative to teammates numbers absolutely suck. 4 of his 12 points have come on the PP. In his past two seasons Perry has put up 1.2 and 0.9 pts/60 at 5v5 which are 4th liner and non-NHL rates respectively, so it stands to reason that the decline of Perry is very real and his good season to date is being held up by his shooting percentage. That will probably equalize at some point and when it does he’ll become utterly useless.

If there’s no way Montreal will trade him, I say good for them. Let them keep him.
- Victoro311

I also think that while there probably will be some, I think we'll see few US/CAN trades even though they downgraded the wait to a week. I don't think any US/CAN trades happen unless it's a big deal.

He has a sick name though so he’s cool in my book.
- Victoro311

Dude was literally questioning Bobby Ryan’s character in the main blog the other day because of his off ice issues. Dude is a (frank)ing loser.

I also think that while there probably will be some, I think we'll see few US/CAN trades even though they downgraded the wait to a week. I don't think any US/CAN trades happen unless it's a big deal.
- Rinosaur

A week isn’t much different than normal. Usually there’s a few day delay getting visa stuff situated.

If I'm a betting man, the Pens are going to get the type of player most of us don't want. Ever since he was brought up I can't help that think he's the exact type they will run after if they can make it happen and that's Dustin Brown. Just seems like the obvious Burke/Hex move.

It wouldn't shock me if they moved Zucker to get him.

If I'm a betting man, the Pens are going to get the type of player most of us don't want. Ever since he was brought up I can't help that think he's the exact type they will run after if they can make it happen and that's Dustin Brown. Just seems like the obvious Burke/Hex move.

It wouldn't shock me if they moved Zucker to get him.
- Rinosaur

There has been, at least, 2 sources speculating DB to the Pens. Is he worth Zucker? Personally, I don't think so.

I would love that lineup. That looks like a forward group good enough to win a cup. I have no idea why we completely overlooked Perry but he is making about the same as Jank. Zuck-Getz-Perry could be a dominant 3rd line. Same could be said for the 4th line.

Only problem is that Montreal isn't trading Perry.
- MacPatty

Getz and Ryan. Problem solved. And basically they will be 4th liners here so as long as they can be above average 4th liners that’s a win.

There has been, at least, 2 sources speculating DB to the Pens. Is he worth Zucker? Personally, I don't think so.
- Beatnic57

I'm not going to speculate who's worth what, but I just think they have their agenda and we shouldn't be shocked to see them do a dynamic change. I agree with you, but if they value getting someone like Brown and want to change the composition of this team, I won't be shocked to see them move a significant player to make that happen.

If they're true to their word and they don't want to move any picks or prospects, that leaves roster players and who can they move to get the players they want?

If you asked me a month ago if I thought they'd move McCann to make something happen I would agreed. Now that he's re-surging and is a fairly cheap player? I doubt it.

Mind you, they also said they don't want to move any dmen, so I don't know that I buy everything they're saying because if you don't want move picks, prospects or dmen then WTF are going use to get good players back?

Dude was literally questioning Bobby Ryan’s character in the main blog the other day because of his off ice issues. Dude is a (frank)ing loser.
- Feds91Stammer

dude must be brian burke

Getz and Ryan. Problem solved. And basically they will be 4th liners here so as long as they can be above average 4th liners that’s a win.
- 10inchTerror

Why is everyone talking about Ryan Getzlauf? He has a contract of $8.25 mm a year. He is way out of our price range and even if Ducks retain half, (which they won't) that is still way too much for a 4th line center....

I'm not going to speculate who's worth what, but I just think they have their agenda and we shouldn't be shocked to see them do a dynamic change. I agree with you, but if they value getting someone like Brown and want to change the composition of this team, I won't be shocked to see them move a significant player to make that happen.

If they're true to their word and they don't want to move any picks or prospects, that leaves roster players and who can they move to get the players they want?

If you asked me a month ago if I thought they'd move McCann to make something happen I would agreed. Now that he's re-surging and is a fairly cheap player? I doubt it.

Mind you, they also said they don't want to move any dmen, so I don't know that I buy everything they're saying because if you don't want move picks, prospects or dmen then WTF are going use to get good players back?
- Rinosaur

Zucker for Brown would be a terrible trade. Zucker is younger and signed an extra year for a marginally lower cap hit. Brown at 36 has had a bit of a resurgence the last few years, and I wouldn't mind adding him and just exposing him at the expansion draft, but I wouldn't give up anything significant for him. It all depends on what the Kings want in return.

Why is everyone talking about Ryan Getzlauf? He has a contract of $8.25 mm a year. He is way out of our price range and even if Ducks retain half, (which they won't) that is still way too much for a 4th line center....
- Beatnic57

Pens should have money banked from LTIR and given that 70% of the season will be gone, they won't be covering his entire cap hit. Theoretically they could get something done with maybe a little bit of retention.

Zucker for Brown would be a terrible trade. Zucker is younger and signed an extra year for a marginally lower cap hit. Brown at 36 has had a bit of a resurgence the last few years, and I wouldn't mind adding him and just exposing him at the expansion draft, but I wouldn't give up anything significant for him. It all depends on what the Kings want in return.
- j.boyd919

I don't disagree. I'm just saying what I could see them doing, not what I would want. You can never put anything past a GM's mission and what they'll do to accomplish that mission.

I'm not going to speculate who's worth what, but I just think they have their agenda and we shouldn't be shocked to see them do a dynamic change. I agree with you, but if they value getting someone like Brown and want to change the composition of this team, I won't be shocked to see them move a significant player to make that happen.

If they're true to their word and they don't want to move any picks or prospects, that leaves roster players and who can they move to get the players they want?

If you asked me a month ago if I thought they'd move McCann to make something happen I would agreed. Now that he's re-surging and is a fairly cheap player? I doubt it.

Mind you, they also said they don't want to move any dmen, so I don't know that I buy everything they're saying because if you don't want move picks, prospects or dmen then WTF are going use to get good players back?
- Rinosaur

I agree with you that a roster player is going. I don't remember reading/hearing anywhere that Dmen are off limits. That is where we have the most flexibility.

I don't really understand the idea of holding on to this year's picks though. What are we going to do with our 5th, and 3 7th's? (Seriously)

I agree with you that a roster player is going. I don't remember reading/hearing anywhere that Dmen are off limits. That is where we have the most flexibility.

I don't really understand the idea of holding on to this year's picks though. What are we going to do with our 5th, and 3 7th's? (Seriously)
- Beatnic57

No idea. We also don't know how much is misdirection. We are so used to JR's transparency that we forget many GM's say one thing, but do another.

Pens should have money banked from LTIR and given that 70% of the season will be gone, they won't be covering his entire cap hit. Theoretically they could get something done with maybe a little bit of retention.
- j.boyd919

Isn’t LTIR only if they miss the rest of the reg season?

I'm honestly just ready for anything at this point. We have no real precedent here for how Hex and Burke will operate with the Pens. They've made it abundantly clear they want to change the dynamic of this team making them bigger and tougher. We have no idea what lengths they will go through to accomplish that.

What makes sense or seems like a logical trade isn't always what happens.

Isn’t LTIR only if they miss the rest of the reg season?
- wsldck

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq#acsl

I dunno, I always get confused at this point of the season. You'd think I would understand how it works with the Pens players in bandages every season. I thought. I usually just ask Feds to explain it to me like I'm 5.

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq#acsl

I dunno, I always get confused at this point of the season. You'd think I would understand how it works with the Pens players in bandages every season. I thought. I usually just ask Feds to explain it to me like I'm 5.
- j.boyd919

Lol

I'm honestly just ready for anything at this point. We have no real precedent here for how Hex and Burke will operate with the Pens. They've made it abundantly clear they want to change the dynamic of this team making them bigger and tougher. We have no idea what lengths they will go through to accomplish that.

What makes sense or seems like a logical trade isn't always what happens.
- Rinosaur

I really don't understand the need to "change the identity of the Pens"... Since 1990 Pens have more cups than anyone (yes Feds, Detroit is a close 2nd at 4).

What they have done is proven to work. People keep comparing us to Boston as a model. In that timeframe Boston has won 1 cup. Heck, as a franchise Boston, as an original 6 team, only has 6 cups.

I am, in no way, saying that Pens don't need to make a change. But to change the identity of the franchise... is both drastic and unnecessary...

When healthy we are 2 forwards away from rolling 3 solid scoring lines and a dominating 4th line...

We should embrace what we are and get it done, while we still can....

I really don't understand the need to "change the identity of the Pens"... Since 1990 Pens have more cups than anyone (yes Feds, Detroit is a close 2nd at 4).

What they have done is proven to work. People keep comparing us to Boston as a model. In that timeframe Boston has won 1 cup. Heck, as a franchise Boston, as an original 6 team, only has 6 cups.

I am, in no way, saying that Pens don't need to make a change. But to change the identity of the franchise... is both drastic and unnecessary...

When healthy we are 2 forwards away from rolling 3 solid scoring lines and a dominating 4th line...

We should embrace what we are and get it done, while we still can....
- Beatnic57

Take this logic out of here lol

If I'm a betting man, the Pens are going to get the type of player most of us don't want. Ever since he was brought up I can't help that think he's the exact type they will run after if they can make it happen and that's Dustin Brown. Just seems like the obvious Burke/Hex move.

It wouldn't shock me if they moved Zucker to get him.
- Rinosaur

I can't stand the thought of trading Zucker. He's still young enough, signed for a few more years, great speed, can score, and is perhaps the best forechecker on the team. He was our best winger, if not player, in the Montreal series. He had a slow start this season and I feel like people are ready to write him off.

Keep Zucker. Keep McCann. Keep Kapanen. All three have bouts of inconsistency but we will regret the instant we trade them, imo.

I'm onboard with bringing in Dustin Brown. But dont see how to make the money work other than Pettersson and ... meh...

I can't stand the thought of trading Zucker. He's still young enough, signed for a few more years, great speed, can score, and is perhaps the best forechecker on the team. He was our best winger, if not player, in the Montreal series. He had a slow start this season and I feel like people are ready to write him off.

Keep Zucker. Keep McCann. Keep Kapanen. All three have bouts of inconsistency but we will regret the instant we trade them, imo.

I'm onboard with bringing in Dustin Brown. But dont see how to make the money work other than Pettersson and ... meh...
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Petts and MM. and LA was apparently hard in on Mm before we got him.

Why is everyone talking about Ryan Getzlauf? He has a contract of $8.25 mm a year. He is way out of our price range and even if Ducks retain half, (which they won't) that is still way too much for a 4th line center....
- Beatnic57

I’m just here to solve problems. They said perry was unobtainable. So now it’s Getz and Ryan.

Ducks would absolutely retain half. They get even a 7th for him, that’s 1 7th more than they had before, plus whatever roster player goes to offset cap, then he goes right back there and resigns in the off season. If Ana moves Getz it’s because he wants it and it’s a favour to him.