That clip of Dorion throwing his water bottle after the Leafs won....classic
- AxlRose91

imagine not having the balls to post for over a week, and then tiptoeing back in to try and troll after your supposed cup contending team had to eek out a win, in OT, against the last place team, who was on the 2nd half of a back to back, and was playing their 5th string goalie who they picked up on waivers in an emergency roster move.

leafs are primed for another 1st round embarassment this year.....easy pickings for whoever they play.

imagine not having the balls to post for over a week, and then tiptoeing back in to try and troll after your supposed cup contending team had to eek out a win, in OT, against the last place team, who was on the 2nd half of a back to back, and was playing their 5th string goalie who they picked up on waivers in an emergency roster move.

leafs are primed for another 1st round embarassment this year.....easy pickings for whoever they play.
- sensarmy_11

Jeez man, grumpy? It’s Friday, lighten up

I don’t live here, and have never posted daily. I pop in when the Sens play the Leafs. So your comment is nonsense

And come on, that clip of Dorion? Gold

Jeez man, grumpy? It’s Friday, lighten up

I don’t live here, and have never posted daily. I pop in when the Sens play the Leafs. So your comment is nonsense

And come on, that clip of Dorion? Gold
- AxlRose91

"i'm not a troll, i just pop in to chat every now and then"

AxlRose91, trying to show he isn't a troll so we don't mock him as much when his team gets dumped in the 1st rd again.

"i'm not a troll, i just pop in to chat every now and then"

AxlRose91, trying to show he isn't a troll so we don't mock him as much when his team gets dumped in the 1st rd again.
- sensarmy_11

OT loss on back to back nights against the 3rd best team in the division....I'll take it!!!

Leafs will not be a very good hockey team for playoffs.

Find myself wishing that the Sens were playing the Leafs again in their next game. Watching last night, I had the sense of the inevitable. The more the Sens play against the Leafs the better the young Sens look. Conversely, the more fragile the Leafs' appear to be.

Hard to imagine the Leafs being able to win a 7 game series against either Winnipeg or Edmonton.
- spatso

the shot attempts were 57-38, scoring chances 32-19 and high danger chances 17-10.

Campbell had to serve up a gimme to help the sens out.
you might be a tad biased in your analysis

the shot attempts were 57-38, scoring chances 32-19 and high danger chances 17-10.

Campbell had to serve up a gimme to help the sens out.
you might be a tad biased in your analysis
- senstroll

Biased??? Spatso? You watch your mouth! He has genuine pity for the Leafs and their fans

Let these long-suffering fans enjoy their loser point. This is big for them

Sorry fellas, enjoy your day

Biased??? Spatso? You watch your mouth! He has genuine pity for the Leafs and their fans

Let these long-suffering fans enjoy their loser point. This is big for them

Sorry fellas, enjoy your day
- AxlRose91

I love a fan of the only team to not win a playoff series in the cap era calling someone else a "long-suffering fan"

speaking of long suffering.......

The guy is overplayed. in a bigger media market he'd get more consideration and if the Sens were a legit challenger the way they were in their heyday with Alfie/ Spezza/ Chara... and co.

Chabot with the bad pass tonight that matthews picked off... skate that harder out and make matthews turn... then pass it... or lob it over the guy... poop pass
- MisterBrown

Every 3 on 3 overtime Chabot looks awful. Everyone seems to contribute it to coaching/the fact he is playing lots and he gets tired, but at the end of the day, he didn't need to make a hero cross ice pass at waist height, let a guy walk around him, and have a crummy hustle to get the attacking guy. At some point, you have to hold him accountable.

I know I'll get eaten alive here, but honestly this has been a theme in OT for a couple of seasons now. While 3 on 3 is a crapshoot, you still have to be aware. I wanted to throw my drink like Dorion in that sequence.

He's a solid d-man due to his offensive abilities, but the guy gets a free ride in terms of accountability. For a player getting 8 mill, that boggles my mind. Meanwhile, fans, coaches, and media will give flak to every other defenseman the moment they make a mistake. Where is the consistency?

Every 3 on 3 overtime Chabot looks awful. Everyone seems to contribute it to coaching/the fact he is playing lots and he gets tired, but at the end of the day, he didn't need to make a hero cross ice pass at waist height, let a guy walk around him, and have a crummy hustle to get the attacking guy. At some point, you have to hold him accountable.

I know I'll get eaten alive here, but honestly this has been a theme in OT for a couple of seasons now. While 3 on 3 is a crapshoot, you still have to be aware. I wanted to throw my drink like Dorion in that sequence.

He's a solid d-man due to his offensive abilities, but the guy gets a free ride in terms of accountability. For a player getting 8 mill, that boggles my mind. Meanwhile, fans, coaches, and media will give flak to every other defenseman the moment they make a mistake. Where is the consistency?
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

i agree with you 100%....but to be fair, i think a lot of his struggles have to do with his ice-time and him just trying to do too much. you can very clearly see that he's not the same player at the end of the games, he's just bagged. Smith needs to stop playing him 30+ minutes a night, it's not helping anyone.

Every 3 on 3 overtime Chabot looks awful. Everyone seems to contribute it to coaching/the fact he is playing lots and he gets tired, but at the end of the day, he didn't need to make a hero cross ice pass at waist height, let a guy walk around him, and have a crummy hustle to get the attacking guy. At some point, you have to hold him accountable.

I know I'll get eaten alive here, but honestly this has been a theme in OT for a couple of seasons now. While 3 on 3 is a crapshoot, you still have to be aware. I wanted to throw my drink like Dorion in that sequence.

He's a solid d-man due to his offensive abilities, but the guy gets a free ride in terms of accountability. For a player getting 8 mill, that boggles my mind. Meanwhile, fans, coaches, and media will give flak to every other defenseman the moment they make a mistake. Where is the consistency?
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

There nothing wrong with your comment, it is essentially correct.

But, it does not account for the incredible influence that fatigue has on the body and, especially on the mind. In overtime Chabot is expected to support the attack and at the same time defend against elite players who have logged half his minutes over the game.

Your suggestion that he gets a free ride while playing 31 minutes a night is ironic.

i agree with you 100%....but to be fair, i think a lot of his struggles have to do with his ice-time and him just trying to do too much. you can very clearly see that he's not the same player at the end of the games, he's just bagged. Smith needs to stop playing him 30+ minutes a night, it's not helping anyone.
- sensarmy_11

It's fair, obviously but errors are happening early to mid games too. His penalty on Mikheyev was an outcome of him just not moving his feet quick enough and results with him diving and slashing. While Mikheyev is effing fast, Chabot knew what he did when he destroyed his stick in the box in frustration.

He is a good d-man, but am not sure the about the Norris and Team Canada talk that constantly revolves around him. There are some glaring holes in his game. Some can be attributed to too much ice time but some has to fall on the player himself. Happens to every other player on this roster and then some.

i agree with you 100%....but to be fair, i think a lot of his struggles have to do with his ice-time and him just trying to do too much. you can very clearly see that he's not the same player at the end of the games, he's just bagged. Smith needs to stop playing him 30+ minutes a night, it's not helping anyone.
- sensarmy_11

Chabot will be the #1 Dman for Team Canada. Local folks will get a chance to see just how good he really is.

Zub has played well. Zaitsev has had some good nights recently. But the Sens have nothing else to help out on the blue line.

It's fair, obviously but errors are happening early to mid games too. His penalty on Mikheyev was an outcome of him just not moving his feet quick enough and results with him diving and slashing. While Mikheyev is effing fast, Chabot knew what he did when he destroyed his stick in the box in frustration.

He is a good d-man, but am not sure the about the Norris and Team Canada talk that constantly revolves around him. There are some glaring holes in his game. Some can be attributed to too much ice time but some has to fall on the player himself. Happens to every other player on this roster and then some.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Give Chabot less minutes and a top flight defensive partner who has his back and all the criticism will begin to fade.

There nothing wrong with your comment, it is essentially correct.

But, it does not account for the incredible influence that fatigue has on the body and, especially on the mind. In overtime Chabot is expected to support the attack and at the same time defend against elite players who have logged half his minutes over the game.

Your suggestion that he gets a free ride while playing 31 minutes a night is ironic.
- spatso

What about the errors mid game as my post above? Is that fatigue as well? Or trying to not give it 100% to have more left over at the end of the game? Or just crappy defense?

I tend to think it's a bit of everything, but no one really wants to hold him accountable for the poor defense and would rather trump the ice time card.

Give Chabot less minutes and a top flight defensive partner who has his back and all the criticism will begin to fade.
- spatso

There is no criticism/accountability towards his defensive play. That's my main point.

What about the errors mid game as my post above? Is that fatigue as well? Or trying to not give it 100% to have more left over at the end of the game? Or just crappy defense?

I tend to think it's a bit of everything, but no one really wants to hold him accountable for the poor defense and would rather trump the ice time card.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

i think he should absolutely be held accountable.....but i think DJ should share equally in the blame. i think he realizes that his coach really doesn't trust anyone other than him.....which leads him to try and do too much. there is ZERO reason that Branny shouldn't be up here, and taking 5 of those minutes away from Chabby.

There is no criticism/accountability towards his defensive play. That's my main point.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

there definitely is some criticism.....but not as much as others would receive (if they made the same plays)......partly due to some extenuating circumstances beyond his control (like ice time), and also the fact that his offensive contributions far outweigh his defensive miscues.

offensive minded d-men will always have more turnovers, based solely on the fact that they're the guys out there trying to move the puck up, and take more risks than traditional "stay at home" guys.

i do agree that he should be held more accountable, but there's a fine line between holding him accountable, and stiffling the risk taking and offense that make him such a special player.

i think he should absolutely be held accountable.....but i think DJ should share equally in the blame. i think he realizes that his coach really doesn't trust anyone other than him.....which leads him to try and do too much. there is ZERO reason that Branny shouldn't be up here, and taking 5 of those minutes away from Chabby.
- sensarmy_11

Agree with that. I am not sure the game plan to play Chabot 5 more minutes every game than every other d-man in the NHL. I get that the defence depth is terrible but so is the offense, but ice time seems to be spread out well considering.

Agree with that. I am not sure the game plan to play Chabot 5 more minutes every game than every other d-man in the NHL. I get that the defence depth is terrible but so is the offense, but ice time seems to be spread out well considering.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

i've been saying for weeks now.......DJ handles the forwards really well and does a great job there....but as good as he's handled the forwards, that's how horribly he's handled the D.

i don't understand how you can be so good with one group, and so horsepoop with another.

Marc Methot
@MarcMethot3
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If you’re the Toronto Maple Leafs, a game like this has got to be a little bit of a concern....no? Win or Lose, this isn’t good enough for a Cup contender.

Marc Methot
@MarcMethot3
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12h
If you’re the Toronto Maple Leafs, a game like this has got to be a little bit of a concern....no? Win or Lose, this isn’t good enough for a Cup contender.
- spatso

One of my favourite sub-plots from this division-leading season for the Leafs has been the vitriol from Marc Methot

That guy hates the Leafs more than you guys!

I think there’s something about playing for a pathetic, toxic franchise like OTT that converts an otherwise pleasant person into a ball of bitterness and anger. That’s my theory, anyways

One of my favourite sub-plots from this division-leading season for the Leafs has been the vitriol from Marc Methot

That guy hates the Leafs more than you guys!

I think there’s something about playing for a pathetic, toxic franchise like OTT that converts an otherwise pleasant person into a ball of bitterness and anger. That’s my theory, anyways
- AxlRose91

It is about, the years of mindless repetition from Leaf management encouraging the planning of the parade.

One of my favourite sub-plots from this division-leading season for the Leafs has been the vitriol from Marc Methot

That guy hates the Leafs more than you guys!

I think there’s something about playing for a pathetic, toxic franchise like OTT that converts an otherwise pleasant person into a ball of bitterness and anger. That’s my theory, anyways
- AxlRose91

he doesn't hate the leafs......he just realizes how fragile of a fan base you are and enjoys stirring the pot. he's said as much on his podcast. he has real good friends on that team..........but he knows that the fan base is full of easily triggered little twats...............and here you are to prove him right.

Every 3 on 3 overtime Chabot looks awful. Everyone seems to contribute it to coaching/the fact he is playing lots and he gets tired, but at the end of the day, he didn't need to make a hero cross ice pass at waist height, let a guy walk around him, and have a crummy hustle to get the attacking guy. At some point, you have to hold him accountable.

I know I'll get eaten alive here, but honestly this has been a theme in OT for a couple of seasons now. While 3 on 3 is a crapshoot, you still have to be aware. I wanted to throw my drink like Dorion in that sequence.

He's a solid d-man due to his offensive abilities, but the guy gets a free ride in terms of accountability. For a player getting 8 mill, that boggles my mind. Meanwhile, fans, coaches, and media will give flak to every other defenseman the moment they make a mistake. Where is the consistency?
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I agree but he's always been mediocre defensively. The amount of ice is a real problem because he has to defend all the time he's on the ice. The Sens are not a possession team and the play is mostly in Ottawa's half of the ice.

I agree but he's always been mediocre defensively. The amount of ice is a real problem because he has to defend all the time he's on the ice. The Sens are not a possession team and the play is mostly in Ottawa's half of the ice.
- granpa

their possession numbers actually aren't that bad, pretty much middle of the pack.......better than Wpg or Van, pretty much even with Tor, Edm, and Calgary.....only the Habs are a good 5v5 possession team in this division.

Ottawa has struggled because they have BY FAR the worst team sv% in the division, and 2nd worst in the league.....only better than Philly, who's recent skid has dropped their goalie numbers significantly

ottawa is also hampered by one of the worst PPs in the league.....rocking like 13% pp, which is almost 10% below the league average.....only Min, Ana, and Detroit are worse than Ottawa