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I don't understand your love of personal attacks nor your disdain for honest work. - Scoob
Who is a better drummer Clem Burke or Spit Stix? |
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Doc_Sarcasm
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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Who is a better drummer Clem Burke or Spit Stix? - login
how about you just be a better human being? |
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Over the last month or two there has been multiple coaching decisions I have questioned. And seems way more than normal. Way more. - Peter Richards
I agree 100% with this and the comment by ClaudeFather that you quoted..
Therien and Yeo can't get players to make fundamentally good decisions on ice.
In the main hockeybuzz thread about Flyers getting D someone alluded to a Flyers Country Club atmosphere. Maybe the vets/stars are mentally more into their families and golfing than being hockey players in the current Covid environment.There is something rotten in the locker room... |
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Letterkenney
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Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA Joined: 03.20.2020
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Considering the Flyers luck with top-5 picks and lottery luck, probably better to not pray for a tank. - Tomahawk
This. SMH |
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So are we cheering for a higher draft pick or are we xheerif for a first round loss in the playoffs?
What's the mood in here today? - Malkins right knee
Time for the higher draft picks. |
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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I agree 100% with this and the comment by ClaudeFather that you quoted..
Therien and Yeo can't get players to make fundamentally good decisions on ice.
In the main hockeybuzz thread about Flyers getting D someone alluded to a Flyers Country Club atmosphere. Maybe the vets/stars are mentally more into their families and golfing than being hockey players in the current Covid environment.There is something rotten in the locker room... - RajaAmpat
Haha half the team looks like they are out for a Sunday skate |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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I agree 100% with this and the comment by ClaudeFather that you quoted..
Therien and Yeo can't get players to make fundamentally good decisions on ice.
In the main hockeybuzz thread about Flyers getting D someone alluded to a Flyers Country Club atmosphere. Maybe the vets/stars are mentally more into their families and golfing than being hockey players in the current Covid environment.There is something rotten in the locker room... - RajaAmpat
4th youngest defense corps in the league. 22-yo starting goalie. It's called growing pains.
Matt Niskanen or Mattias Ekholm or Shea Weber weren't gonna push this team into SC contention. Reign in your expectations folks. |
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Joined: 08.21.2020
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4th youngest defense corps in the league. 22-yo starting goalie. It's called growing pains.
Matt Niskanen or Mattias Ekholm or Shea Weber weren't gonna put this team into SC contention. Reign in your expectations folks. - Tomahawk
4th youngest in experience or age? |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I don't totally disagree with you, though I feel if Fletcher can get a really good player for a reasonable price that he can fit within his ED plans I hope he does it. But I wonder what you define as "smart" moves? As you know I have been very consistent in posting this team needs a major shakeup, starting with the leadership. Do you consider this a priority for Fletcher in the off season, or do you believe this leadership group is still viable? And BTW, I think the shakeup should not just be in the players, I also believe 1 or both assistant coaches need to be replaced if AV is on board with it. - jd250
What constitutes a smart move is not overpaying and not creating a hole somewhere else in the lineup. Also not paying a hefty price and giving away a quality future asset in an attempt to win now.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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What does it matter at this point, who plays D I mean. This team has lots of problems, in net, defensively, special teams, etc. but none of these can be compared to the real problem on this team, and that is the lack of leadership and the culture that has resulted. Until this gets fixed, nothing else will get solved. - jd250
The biggest issue plaguing this team right now is poor fundamental team defense.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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What does it matter at this point, who plays D I mean. This team has lots of problems, in net, defensively, special teams, etc. but none of these can be compared to the real problem on this team, and that is the lack of leadership and the culture that has resulted. Until this gets fixed, nothing else will get solved. - jd250
The biggest issue plaguing this team right now is poor fundamental team defense.
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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The biggest issue plaguing this team right now is poor fundamental team defense. - MJL
There is no leadership on this team, the team is rudderless and its clear AV is at his wits end. Until this gets solved you can forget about getting these players to play sound fundamental team defense or anything else for that matter. When Nolan Patrick and Oscar Lindblom are the only players that apparently give a F*** on this team, you have a whole world of badness going on. I know you are going to reply that this is not the 1970s, but there are fundamental things that make a great team that never go out of style, like sticking up for a teammate that has been body slammed at center ice, or responding to a knee to knee hit on your captain, or pummeling someone after getting your doors blown off 9-0!! This is not a team we are watching right now, at least not a team that has any of the qualities necessary to be successful.
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Thors-Hammer
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Location: Daytona Beach, FL Joined: 08.12.2013
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Hopefully the wingers give the Defense some support instead of standing around. If the Flyers move their feet and stop puck watching then things will improve. I know that Pitlick wasn't a big goal scorer, but his motor never stopped running. The Flyers miss his energy on the ice. |
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PT21
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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From last blog:
The Flyers score enough most games to win. Need more toughness/heaviness, yes, but the guy has to be able to play, too, or still be able to if he was able in the past. Agree that not making a bold move to replace Niskanen and putting all your eggs in 9, 6 and 5 taking the next step was a risk then and a big mistake in hindsight - bmeltzer
It seems to me things can be called a mistake only if at the time the decision was taken, it was clearly irrational. Not based on how things turn out.
How could Fletcher have predicted that so many of the D would have simultaneously bad seasons and forwards would stop back-checking and so on? The price for Vet D was high, we were cap squeezed, what would have been the point of taking on a older vet contract who would not have been part of the future?
Pietro did not want to come here, and that's the only guy I wanted.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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There is no leadership on this team, the team is rudderless and its clear AV is at his wits end. Until this gets solved you can forget about getting these players to play sound fundamental team defense or anything else for that matter. When Nolan Patrick and Oscar Lindblom are the only players that apparently give a F*** on this team, you have a whole world of badness going on. I know you are going to reply that this is not the 1970s, but there are fundamental things that make a great team that never go out of style, like sticking up for a teammate that has been body slammed at center ice, or responding to a knee to knee hit on your captain, or pummeling someone after getting your doors blown off 9-0!! This is not a team we are watching right now, at least not a team that has any of the qualities necessary to be successful. - jd250
This team of pretty much the same players in the leadership group was able to play strong fundamental team defense last season. How was that possible if what you say is true? We'll start with that. |
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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The biggest issue plaguing this team right now is poor fundamental team defense. - MJL
Why is it so hard for this team to be locked in? The mental errors are ridiculous at this point. 20 give aways last game, something is wrong . |
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goenzoy
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Joined: 04.11.2014
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There is no leadership on this team, the team is rudderless and its clear AV is at his wits end. Until this gets solved you can forget about getting these players to play sound fundamental team defense or anything else for that matter. When Nolan Patrick and Oscar Lindblom are the only players that apparently give a F*** on this team, you have a whole world of badness going on. I know you are going to reply that this is not the 1970s, but there are fundamental things that make a great team that never go out of style, like sticking up for a teammate that has been body slammed at center ice, or responding to a knee to knee hit on your captain, or pummeling someone after getting your doors blown off 9-0!! This is not a team we are watching right now, at least not a team that has any of the qualities necessary to be successful. - jd250
Come on if you lose 9:0 or 1:0 makes no difference
2021 will be for most teams a season to forget and even a team what plays well at the moment like Florida does it with a 10 million goalkeeper
Yes also Flyers need to accept that Giroux is not a franchise player anymore but only top 6 winger and even on this level inconsistent .All other players are a best overpaid ( Jake , JVR last year ,Hayes ) Trades will not do anything for this season
They only need to focus at goals against and try to hang on to playoff as long as possible .Boston is still in distance
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Pixote Andolini
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Location: South Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.23.2007
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Damn they lost Friedman and now Prosser is a staple on the Flyers d-corps. Also they gave up on Morin. Rough. |
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PT21
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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The biggest issue plaguing this team right now is poor fundamental team defense. - MJL
Yes, I agree. The guy we trade for is not going to be on the ice at all times. If he plays across from Provorov, will his psychological effect on the bench prevent the (frank)-ups being committed by Gus/Prosser? The turnovers by Patrick? The poor-PK? The horrendous defensive play?
Short of an inspirational player, who is not coming here now, I just don't see why there is such a clamor for a trade. If it was one guy/one pair having a poor season, then I would get it. |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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This team of pretty much the same players in the leadership group was able to play strong fundamental team defense last season. How was that possible if what you say is true? We'll start with that. - MJL
This team for the past several years has demonstrated that they can do a lot of things well for a short period of time. Last season was no different, they had a stretch of weeks where they played well, but the start of their season was poor as has been the case most seasons. In the playoffs last year you watched what resulted when they played Montreal and the Islanders. This year the team's record at the start was a total ruse, since it was clear to everyone that they were not playing well and eventually it would catch up to them which it has.
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wcorvette
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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you can trade Patrick and you can trade Lindblom, just make sure you fill a hole. I do believe the Flyers are deeper on wing than D or center. So if the right D is out there, go ahead make the deal. As long as that deal is not for just for the next 18 months. |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Come on if you lose 9:0 or 1:0 makes no difference
- goenzoy
Actually it does ... and if you ever played a competitive team sport you would know that.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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This team for the past several years has demonstrated that they can do a lot of things well for a short period of time. Last season was no different, they had a stretch of weeks where they played well, but the start of their season was poor as has been the case most seasons. In the playoffs last year you watched what resulted when they played Montreal and the Islanders. This year the team's record at the start was a total ruse, since it was clear to everyone that they were not playing well and eventually it would catch up to them which it has. - jd250
They played well defensively all last season. They beat Montreal and took the Islanders to 7 games without playing well overall. I get what you're saying. I question the leadership at times also. However your statement that they can't play well defensively with this leadership group is simply not correct. |
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PT21
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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Considering the Flyers luck with top-5 picks and lottery luck, probably better to not pray for a tank. - Tomahawk
Eh.
There would be multiple benefits from a nice long losing streak before tdl.
1. It would take us firmly out of playoff contention and reduce the pressure for additions.
2. It might be possible to do subtractions, and offload some vet guys, in addition to hopefully doing the same at ED.
3. It would set more realistic expectations of where we are as a team for the seasons ahead.
4. Just because we got 2 less than ideal picks in the top 5 decade+ apart doesn't mean it will happen again.
All this trade talk is making me nervous. If anything, imo, we should be huge sellers, gird our loins, and wait a few years. |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Why is it so hard for this team to be locked in? The mental errors are ridiculous at this point. 20 give aways last game, something is wrong . - ClaudeFather
Yes, its a culture that does not value the details and one that has ZERO accountability
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