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NC Flyers Fan
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Mar 20 @ 1:40 PM ET

Today’s Flyers Daily podcast with the Wade Allison interview is a good one. It’s worth the listen. Kid has a great head on his shoulders. Future leadership group. Hopefully he stays healthy and gets playing experience with the Phantoms for the rest of this season. What a shot!

Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 20 @ 2:09 PM ET
Today’s Flyers Daily podcast with the Wade Allison interview is a good one. It’s worth the listen. Kid has a great head on his shoulders. Future leadership group. Hopefully he stays healthy and gets playing experience with the Phantoms for the rest of this season. What a shot!
- NC Flyers Fan


This year was a tough start for a lot of our prospects. So many injuries.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Mar 20 @ 2:20 PM ET
Win. Just win.

Let’s go Flyers!

- NC Flyers Fan


peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Mar 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
Braun is by far the Flyers best defender among the teams defenseman. He has had a good season. The problem is that he can only defend. Puck skills are diminished but he finds a way to contribute. Like he did with the center net drive on a goal last game.
- MJL


Not that I’m a big +\- guy but Braun has the D’s best at plus 10. Provy is a plus 5. Both have been pretty good in our D zone. I think Braun is solid against the wall taking hits and making smart plays with the puck. This year he has played within his means. I think Provy has played the toughest min overall. He does a lot on all three zones. I think he is different then Braun in the D zone but as effective. Not sure I would say he is by far a better defender then Provy. But I can see how you could argue that fact.

Bottom line is that seems like the only option for a successful top pair. Not ideal but it is what it is now. Man I miss Nisky.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Mar 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
Today’s Flyers Daily podcast with the Wade Allison interview is a good one. It’s worth the listen. Kid has a great head on his shoulders. Future leadership group. Hopefully he stays healthy and gets playing experience with the Phantoms for the rest of this season. What a shot!
- NC Flyers Fan


Thanks for the heads up. I will try and catch that interview.

Allison just fell to that injury bug. Hope he can continue to bounce back. He has some tools that are NHL ready from what I’ve been reading. Haven’t seen him much (just some clips).
corduroy
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Mar 20 @ 2:38 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 3/20/21 @ NYI
- bmeltzer



Will Hart give up 3+ goals tonight? Will the forwards commit to backchecking? Will the defense bail Hart out or doom him in?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
Gostisebehere is sitting once again. I'd be interested to see how many times he has been in the lineup as Gustafsson. I bet the answer is not many.

Another "maintenance" day for Raffl. Probably means his hand is worse off than anticipated.

Vigneault says Hart is "trending in right direction" This after he's allowed 7 goals on the last 41 shots he has faced.

- PLindbergh31


That means he has stopped 34 of the 41 though!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 2:41 PM ET
Not that I’m a big +\- guy but Braun has the D’s best at plus 10. Provy is a plus 5. Both have been pretty good in our D zone. I think Braun is solid against the wall taking hits and making smart plays with the puck. This year he has played within his means. I think Provy has played the toughest min overall. He does a lot on all three zones. I think he is different then Braun in the D zone but as effective. Not sure I would say he is by far a better defender then Provy. But I can see how you could argue that fact.

Bottom line is that seems like the only option for a successful top pair. Not ideal but it is what it is now. Man I miss Nisky.

- peesinwind


In my view, Provorov has had a disappointing season overall. The Flyers are having to overplay Braun. Braun gets criticized but he can play on the 3rd pair for me anytime. You can do a lot worse.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
In my view, Provorov has had a disappointing season overall. The Flyers are having to overplay Braun. Braun gets criticized but he can play on the 3rd pair for me anytime. You can do a lot worse.
- MJL


Yeah. To me Braun is a solid third pair guy that can eat up some PK time and a some D zone starts. Makes him pretty valuable as a team aspect.

Provy just hasn’t had a solid pairing to play the tough minutes he is asked to play in my opinion. The only time I felt he was given the proper support was with Nisky. Provy played a great game with that pairing. I figured he was ready for the role he was given this year but it proved to be to much for the youngster. He’s been in the league for awhile but he is still very young for a defender, especially on that top line without another top line guy to play with. Braun has been okay for him since they have been re-paired. I think he needs better support to play at that high level.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
By the way. G’s Face off win percentage is 61.5 right now. Pretty freaking good.

He takes a lot of heat on most threads but he is a very effective player. So versatile. He puts up so many points and can do so many things well. Not a bad late first round pick. Of course that draft year was sick.
arichardson22
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Mar 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
In my view, Provorov has had a disappointing season overall. The Flyers are having to overplay Braun. Braun gets criticized but he can play on the 3rd pair for me anytime. You can do a lot worse.
- MJL


Provy def having an underwhelming season. I was thinking to myself last game, I really don’t notice Braun some games. But that’s a good thing, you don’t see him standing out with these egregious turnovers like most our D commit. He’s certainly not flashy, but definitely has a nice consistency. Especially compared to our other d men
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
Yeah. To me Braun is a solid third pair guy that can eat up some PK time and a some D zone starts. Makes him pretty valuable as a team aspect.

Provy just hasn’t had a solid pairing to play the tough minutes he is asked to play in my opinion. The only time I felt he was given the proper support was with Nisky. Provy played a great game with that pairing. I figured he was ready for the role he was given this year but it proved to be to much for the youngster. He’s been in the league for awhile but he is still very young for a defender, especially on that top line without another top line guy to play with. Braun has been okay for him since they have been re-paired. I think he needs better support to play at that high level.

- peesinwind


In my view, even with Niskanen, Provorov has been in the wrong role. They've had to do that with Provorov since he came in the league. The Flyers did the same thing with Couturier. In my opinion, Provorov should not be the main shutdown defender on a team. I think to get his full value, he should play less in the D zone and more offensively with better linemates and better offensive situations. He's already had a season where he led all NHL defenseman in goals scored. It's similar in Chicago in their heyday. Keith got all the accolades and deservedly so but it was Hjamarlsson that took on a lot of heavy lifting to allow Keith to do what he did.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 20 @ 4:09 PM ET
Ghost scratched for the third straight game.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 20 @ 4:20 PM ET
Ghost scratched for the third straight game.
- StepfordSam



I don't get it unless he has some sort of nagging injury they are keeping quiet.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Mar 20 @ 4:23 PM ET
Ghost scratched for the third straight game.
- StepfordSam

I think Sanhiem or Myers could really use a game off to regroup.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 4:27 PM ET
I don't get it unless he has some sort of nagging injury they are keeping quiet.
- MBFlyerfan


I think that Gostisbehere belongs in the lineup. The coach was sitting him to send a message as his defensive game was weakening. Gostisbehere obviously doesn't have as much "in the bank" as some other players do. The only thing I can say is that they won the last game so he doesn't want to change the defense. I think he also doesn't want to play the "G and G" pairing.
MBFlyerfan
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Mar 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
I think that Gostisbehere belongs in the lineup. The coach was sitting him to send a message as his defensive game was weakening. Gostisbehere obviously doesn't have as much "in the bank" as some other players do. The only thing I can say is that they won the last game so he doesn't want to change the defense. I think he also doesn't want to play the "G and G" pairing.
- MJL



After the 9-0 game I thought he would get back in.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.06.2017

Mar 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
I certainly understand the rationale of the coach. They won last game so let's keep it going. But if this team wants to take a step forward, part of it is with Ghost in the lineup playing up to his ability.

Hopefully it doesn't last another game.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 20 @ 5:08 PM ET
In my view, even with Niskanen, Provorov has been in the wrong role. They've had to do that with Provorov since he came in the league. The Flyers did the same thing with Couturier. In my opinion, Provorov should not be the main shutdown defender on a team. I think to get his full value, he should play less in the D zone and more offensively with better linemates and better offensive situations. He's already had a season where he led all NHL defenseman in goals scored. It's similar in Chicago in their heyday. Keith got all the accolades and deservedly so but it was Hjamarlsson that took on a lot of heavy lifting to allow Keith to do what he did.
- MJL

Totally disagree with the offensive zone, not that he’s a slouch but he severely lacks creativity in the offensive zone and it shows on the PP. he’s probably a bad #1 and a solid #2 if that makes sense. We just have had an uninspiring supporting cast for a long time
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 20 @ 5:10 PM ET
I think that Gostisbehere belongs in the lineup. The coach was sitting him to send a message as his defensive game was weakening. Gostisbehere obviously doesn't have as much "in the bank" as some other players do. The only thing I can say is that they won the last game so he doesn't want to change the defense. I think he also doesn't want to play the "G and G" pairing.
- MJL

Where was the message to Sanheim and Meyers? The fact that they stayed in the lineup and ghost came out after a bad game is ridiculous. Ghost has been much better than both of them the past 10 games
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 20 @ 5:48 PM ET
Totally disagree with the offensive zone, not that he’s a slouch but he severely lacks creativity in the offensive zone and it shows on the PP. he’s probably a bad #1 and a solid #2 if that makes sense. We just have had an uninspiring supporting cast for a long time
- ClaudeFather


I'm not talking about playing the point on the PP. I'm talking about 5 on 5. I specifically mentioned goal scoring and that he led the NHL in goals scored by a defenseman one season. A strength of Provorov's is coming up and filling holes on the rush and he has goal scoring ability. You also know that I have agreed with you on many occasions about not liking Provorov on the PP. Provorov has less opportunity to use that offensive ability at 5 on 5 if having to defend too much.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 20 @ 5:48 PM ET
Where was the message to Sanheim and Meyers? The fact that they stayed in the lineup and ghost came out after a bad game is ridiculous. Ghost has been much better than both of them the past 10 games
- ClaudeFather


I agree with you.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 20 @ 5:57 PM ET
Where was the message to Sanheim and Meyers? The fact that they stayed in the lineup and ghost came out after a bad game is ridiculous. Ghost has been much better than both of them the past 10 games
- ClaudeFather


Not defending the decision, but just wondering: the coach said (while benching Myers) that he was doing some things that he had been warned/told multiple times not to do.

Maybe Ghost is same story? Its not that he is the worst. Its that he is making repetitive errors. That led to first benching (against Rangers).

In Rangers game, everyone sucked so bad that they probably threw that game out of the evaluation process. That explains 2nd benching

Then they won against the Isles, and played a lot better team D until the end. No need to make changes, which explains 3rd benching (today).

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 20 @ 6:06 PM ET
I'm not talking about playing the point on the PP. I'm talking about 5 on 5. I specifically mentioned goal scoring and that he led the NHL in goals scored by a defenseman one season. A strength of Provorov's is coming up and filling holes on the rush and he has goal scoring ability. You also know that I have agreed with you on many occasions about not liking Provorov on the PP. Provorov has less opportunity to use that offensive ability at 5 on 5 if having to defend too much.
- MJL

He does have a knack for picking his spots on a rush. I see what you’re saying , idk I’m not looking as it as used wrong, because he is good in the Dzone. Kind of just the reality due to our depth. I’d love for him to get a more balanced usage but we just don’t have that luxury
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 20 @ 6:09 PM ET
Not defending the decision, but just wondering: the coach said (while benching Myers) that he was doing some things that he had been warned/told multiple times not to do.

Maybe Ghost is same story? Its not that he is the worst. Its that he is making repetitive errors. That led to first benching (against Rangers).

In Rangers game, everyone sucked so bad that they probably threw that game out of the evaluation process. That explains 2nd benching

Then they won against the Isles, and played a lot better team D until the end. No need to make changes, which explains 3rd benching (today).

- PT21

I guess we don’t know what is said behind closed doors but just watching the games , ghost has arguably been our best Dmen as of late . How much flack could he have gotten and besides the rangers game, was anything that egregious
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