I liked Schenn. At least he played with an edge. It’s like when they traded Carter and Richards. Loved the return....but they’ve won nothing since ....while I watched both of them raise the cup....hmmm I watched Schenn raise the cup too.

- landros 2

The reason those guys did well elsewhere is b/s they were complementary players to a better set of stars..

Schenn was not so great here. He finished his checks but was a pretty generic player otherwise, especially against good teams and playoffs

Fook this entire team. Except for Farabee and (just possibly at this point) Hart. Blow the rest the fook up. Bunch of gutless babies.

I actually think you might be able to get something decent for Elliot...if you wanted to go that route
- matman31

Everyone over 30 on this roster should be available no questions asked.

The reason those guys did well elsewhere is b/s they were complementary players to a better set of stars..

Schenn was not so great here. He finished his checks but was a pretty generic player otherwise, especially against good teams and playoffs
- PT21

Who were the better stars in St. Louis? A bottom feeding team that fired their coach but suddenly went from the bottom to Stanley cup champions in one season?

Everyone over 30 on this roster should be available no questions asked.
- hereticpride

I'll go a step further as I can think of a few 20 somethings available too.

It’s weird you truly believe this.
- SuperSchennBros

I do - I cut school and was at the 74 parade and at this point do not believe I will experience the Flyers winning another cup without a complete rebuild. This is not a funk that will self correct with a few practices imo. "Be a fu*k#% Flyer" is so not this team!

I'll go a step further as I can think of a few 20 somethings available too.
- Pelle31Forever

Oh definitely. My list of keepers is about 5 guys and it will be smaller than that if play like this continues.

Who were the better stars in St. Louis? A bottom feeding team that fired their coach but suddenly went from the bottom to Stanley cup champions in one season?
- SuperSchennBros

Bottom feeding team? What? Check their record the years before. If they did not have to go through that Chicago team, they would have had much more success. They played a heavy puck possession forechecking cycling style and they had good defense and they did not change that formula.

They had a below expectations year. Thats why Berube got the job after all.

We have no one in even the same galaxy as Tarasenko and Pietro. Then their trades worked out, and Binnington had the year he did.

if this turd GM does nothing substantial before Monday his balls are the size of tic tacs.
- PLindbergh31

In all honesty, why at this point? They aren’t good. He certainly shouldn’t be buying. The time for improvement is the offseason at this point.

There could be a market for JVR with the way he’s played. There probably would be one for Giroux. Voracek is an anchor. Hayes isn’t going anywhere. Raffl might have slight value to a team. Maybe Braun to a team looking for that voice in the room. I’m not proposing to trade all of them, but to rid themselves of one of those bigger contracts would be a dream.

If Ghost had any value they probably wouldn’t be benching him saying his defensive game is slipping. Usually not the route for a guy I’d trade. I’d explore moving Elliott to a team that could use a capable backup and bring up Lyon.

I’d be willing to part with Sanheim, Myers, Konecny, picks, prospects, whatever to bring a bonafide star to this team. They lack star power, toughness, and speed.

19 goals against and 6 for in the last three games.
Classic

Oh definitely. My list of keepers is about 5 guys and it will be smaller than that if play like this continues.
- hereticpride

Giving it some thought I think mine is exactly 5.

Hart
Provorov
Couturier
Farabee
Myers only because I'd hate to quit on a 6'5 RH shot who I still feel has talent

I don't want to quit on Patrick but he could be a piece that brings back something of value.

Oh ill say 6. I do like Laughton.

Prosser and Gus need to never play another game for the Flyers. Not sure why they won't play Morin and Ghost over those 2 given the recent defensive play. Additionally Provorov needs to sit a game - he has been horrible

In all honesty, why at this point? They aren’t good. He certainly shouldn’t be buying. The time for improvement is the offseason at this point.

There could be a market for JVR with the way he’s played. There probably would be one for Giroux. Voracek is an anchor. Hayes isn’t going anywhere. Raffl might have slight value to a team. Maybe Braun to a team looking for that voice in the room. I’m not proposing to trade all of them, but to rid themselves of one of those bigger contracts would be a dream.

If Ghost had any value they probably wouldn’t be benching him saying his defensive game is slipping. Usually not the route for a guy I’d trade. I’d explore moving Elliott to a team that could use a capable backup and bring up Lyon.

I’d be willing to part with Sanheim, Myers, Konecny, picks, prospects, whatever to bring a bonafide star to this team. They lack star power, toughness, and speed.
- Flyers1218

Something substantial doesn't have to mean a trade. Fire one of the bums who run the special teams. That might get someone's attention to start.

Something substantial doesn't have to mean a trade. Fire one of the bums who run the special teams. That might get someone's attention to start.
- PLindbergh31

Therrien and Yeo should definitely be off the staff for starters next season.

Bottom feeding team? What? Check their record the years before. If they did not have to go through that Chicago team, they would have had much more success. They played a heavy puck possession forechecking cycling style and they had good defense and they did not change that formula.

They had a below expectations year. Thats why Berube got the job after all.

We have no one in even the same galaxy as Tarasenko and Pietro. Then their trades worked out, and Binnington had the year he did.
- PT21

Bro,

The season the St Louis Blues won, they fired their coach and Craig Berube took over as intern. They were dead last mid way through the season. What the Blues did was nothing short of a miracle but what they did wasn’t with bigger stars than what we have. Schenn was very much a Contributing player that season. Not to mention, you bring up seasons prior to their cup victory. That Cup win was Ryan O’Riley’s first year with the blues, so that’s one less start in prior seasons.

Something substantial doesn't have to mean a trade. Fire one of the bums who run the special teams. That might get someone's attention to start.
- PLindbergh31

Honestly, at this point I want roster changes. They have had 5 coaches now. Lavi and Berube have cups and AV has been to a SCF. Enough excuses.

Giving it some thought I think mine is exactly 5.

Hart
Provorov
Couturier
Farabee
Myers only because I'd hate to quit on a 6'5 RH shot who I still feel has talent

I don't want to quit on Patrick but he could be a piece that brings back something of value.

Oh ill say 6. I do like Laughton.
- Pelle31Forever

My 5 are

Coots
Provy
Hart
Farabee
Patrick

Hart
3.83 gaa
.875 save %

Both worst in the league. I fear playing behind this train wreck might ruin this kid.

For some 30 minutes in the middle of that game Hart stopped everything, even the horrid turnover kind, but the Flyers skaters didn’t score, PP opportunities, it just didn’t happen. You don’t score, you won’t win. Expecting a 1-0 victory with the current team defense is “lunacy.” That was pretty clear in the first 10 minutes going down 3-0.

I love Oskar. Someone tell me what happened to Coots?

Mixed bag...I should probably wait 6 more games to say this but I don’t believe they will win all 6 (Feel free to prove me wrong.)...trade whomever possible who are not part of the plan going forward. Acquire a stopgap, expiring contract on defense, preferably a right shot stay-at-home type.

Bro,

The season the St Louis Blues won, they fired their coach and Craig Berube took over as intern. They were dead last mid way through the season. What the Blues did was nothing short of a miracle but what they did wasn’t with bigger stars than what we have. Schenn was very much a Contributing player that season. Not to mention, you bring us seasons prior to their cup victory. That Cup win was Ryan O’Riley’s first year with the blues, so that’s one less start in prior seasons.
- SuperSchennBros

I disagree with all your points.

What Blues did was not a miracle. They had a team that had considerable success in the preceding few years. They were going through a bad spell. A good team with playoff success going through a bad run does not make them a bottom feeder.

(Btw, Same thing happened with LA during their first run. They were the eight seed, and won it all. Their year started horrid and their coach was fired.Pens during their second cup run were something like 25th or 26th in the league turn of the year).

Tarasenko was one of the top 3 RW, possibly for the several years before through their cup run. Playing in a D first system, he put up a poop load of goals during those years.

There were only a few guys better than Pietro at the start of their cup season: Hedman, Jones, Josi. I think guys like Karlsson, Burns, Carlson, Subban, Doughty get in on a top list then because they produce more points, but I would much rather start a playoff run with Pietro over those guys as my #1 D.

The only way I’m trading Provorov, Sanheim or Myers is for a player at a Similar age, who offers something one of these players doesn’t....and it would have to be a one for one.

The season Sanheim was drafted, Haydn Fleury and Julius Honka we’re drafted ahead of him. Travis Sanheim is better than both of them.

Can Hays make a pass this season without unnecessarily stopping and turning around?

I disagree with all your points.

What Blues did was not a miracle. They had a team that had considerable success in the preceding few years. They were going through a bad spell. A good team with playoff success going through a bad run does not make them a bottom feeder.

(Btw, Same thing happened with LA during their first run. They were the eight seed, and won it all. Their year started horrid and their coach was fired.Pens during their second cup run were something like 25th or 26th in the league turn of the year).

Tarasenko was one of the top 3 RW, possibly for the several years before through their cup run. Playing in a D first system, he put up a poop load of goals during those years.

There were only a few guys better than Pietro at the start of their cup season: Hedman, Jones, Josi. I think guys like Karlsson, Burns, Carlson, Subban, Doughty get in on a top list then because they produce more points, but I would much rather start a playoff run with Pietro over those guys as my #1 D.
- PT21

Who are the supposed stars the blues had who were better than our stars prior to their cup victory. I’d also like to welcome you to name exert team that was able to make the playoffs and win, while being last place at the middle of that season...because that’s what happened. A guy from St Louis on the news made a bet with Vegas and won. Like the odds were titanic.

The reason those guys did well elsewhere is b/s they were complementary players to a better set of stars..

Schenn was not so great here. He finished his checks but was a pretty generic player otherwise, especially against good teams and playoffs
- PT21

Actually all three were really good NHL players. Looking at those teams....both LA and St. Louis don’t win those cups without those players. So say what you will....I’m sure both those teams are just as happy with those trades as are the Flyers...if not more.

Bill tweeted this

The Flyers had 24 turnovers tonight.... 20 giveaways plus 4 takeaways by the Islanders.

Holy crap that’s baaaaaaad