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black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Mar 20 @ 8:50 PM ET
fletcher should fire AV AND trade G/Voracek then step down
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 20 @ 8:53 PM ET
Farabee has been killing penalties all season
- SuperSchennBros

I know
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 20 @ 8:53 PM ET
Same. I’m just saying if they decided to go that route I wouldn’t mind it. Its just time to try something else.
- hereticpride



Not going to lie...I’m startled that Fletcher hasn’t tried to do more. I’m not saying go out and start to unload all your future assets but it was obvious they needed a solid replacement for Niskanen on the back end, a sniper type winger and some more physical players coming into this year. He’s addressed nothing.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 8:53 PM ET
fletcher should fire AV AND trade G/Voracek then step down
- black_francis

I’d take A if it guarantees B
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 20 @ 8:58 PM ET
I wanna offer my opinion on Nolan Patrick.

First, I’m a Nolan Patrick guy. The only thing to me that stands out that I don’t like is his skating. You can question his decision making. Behind the back blind passes. A lot of players do this but definitely looks bad when they don’t work.

My issue is, his lack of organizational help with his development. I have no issue with putting him on the fourth line to work things out or scratching him for a game. It’s the rushing him to the NHL at age 18. He probably doesn’t deserve PP time right now and a guy like Scott Laughton does. It’s a lot of mixed messages on his progression. Lately I’ve noticed him on the PK a little, after years of not using him there. Why? What’s his defined role? I think they use him weird.

- SuperSchennBros

For the record I really hoped Patrick would bring it this year after an adjustment period, but its hasn't panned out. Everyone tells me how talented this kid is, but I don't see it. I don't watch him practice and I bet he looks great in shootouts, but during a game he has shown next to nothing. But this is not totally surprising. When he got drafted the knock against Patrick was 1. his skating and 2. his pass first mentality, and he have seen this abundantly since he has entered the league. Maybe the Flyers (Hextall actually) rushed him into the lineup because physically he was ready and was drafted so high. But the bottom line, he has not developed into anything that I am sure the Flyers had hoped. If I could trade him for a piece, I would.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 20 @ 9:02 PM ET
How is Cazinkas WIDE OPEN in the slot again??
DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Mar 20 @ 9:03 PM ET
Would someone tell Konecny that this isn't the ice capades pretty passes don't get points in front of the net. Shoot the puck when you have a slot shot
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 9:03 PM ET
For the record I really hoped Patrick would bring it this year after an adjustment period, but its hasn't panned out. Everyone tells me how talented this kid is, but I don't see it. I don't watch him practice and I bet he looks great in shootouts, but during a game he has shown next to nothing. But this is not totally surprising. When he got drafted the knock against Patrick was 1. his skating and 2. his pass first mentality, and he have seen this abundantly since he has entered the league. Maybe the Flyers (Hextall actually) rushed him into the lineup because physically he was ready and was drafted so high. But the bottom line, he has not developed into anything that I am sure the Flyers had hoped. If I could trade him for a piece, I would.
- jd250

Watching Patrick in junior it obvious how much he used his size to his advantage. I’d like to see him put on some more muscle still playing at the NHL level. He’s still very young and I see flashes of great passing ability. I’d like to hang onto him and just let him develop in the 3C role.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Mar 20 @ 9:04 PM ET
How many times do we see a puck up for grabs and there's no Flyers anywhere near it? A friggin lot. That's how many times.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 20 @ 9:05 PM ET
How is Cazinkas WIDE OPEN in the slot again??
- jd250

Black Widow level stealth skills
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Mar 20 @ 9:07 PM ET
Black Widow level stealth skills
- 2Real


Or blind D
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 20 @ 9:07 PM ET
Watching Patrick in junior it obvious how much he used his size to his advantage. I’d like to see him put on some more muscle still playing at the NHL level. He’s still very young and I see flashes of great passing ability. I’d like to hang onto him and just let him develop in the 3C role.
- hereticpride

I mean, if he has no trade value I guess I would hang onto him, but if teams value him I would trade him. After all, you can trip over 3C players in this league. We have some good centers coming, including hopefully Frost if he recovers completely, Foerster and O'Brien.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Mar 20 @ 9:08 PM ET
Flyers have given up 30 goals in the last 6 games.
😳😳
matman31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: In Cognito
Joined: 12.14.2005

Mar 20 @ 9:09 PM ET
I mean, if he has no trade value I guess I would hang onto him, but if teams value him I would trade him. We have some good centers coming, including hopefully Frost if he recovers completely, Foerster and O'Brien.
- jd250

I would def hold onto him at this point...not sure he brings you much in return
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 20 @ 9:09 PM ET
For the record I really hoped Patrick would bring it this year after an adjustment period, but its hasn't panned out. Everyone tells me how talented this kid is, but I don't see it. I don't watch him practice and I bet he looks great in shootouts, but during a game he has shown next to nothing. But this is not totally surprising. When he got drafted the knock against Patrick was 1. his skating and 2. his pass first mentality, and he have seen this abundantly since he has entered the league. Maybe the Flyers (Hextall actually) rushed him into the lineup because physically he was ready and was drafted so high. But the bottom line, he has not developed into anything that I am sure the Flyers had hoped. If I could trade him for a piece, I would.
- jd250

Yeah but he’s 22. Sometimes it takes player to the age 22 before getting into the league. He’s not a man, he’s a boy. He’s a developing player. I would argue power forwards take the longest to develop.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
the (frank) was that?

there's your boy PLind
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
Prosser 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
Nate!!!!
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
Hahahahaha Prosser.

I'm surprised Hart just doesn't skate off the himself.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
Gus and Pressor are awful. Ghost better be dead if you’re not gonna play him.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET


When you think the goals can’t get any uglier.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
For the record I really hoped Patrick would bring it this year after an adjustment period, but its hasn't panned out. Everyone tells me how talented this kid is, but I don't see it. I don't watch him practice and I bet he looks great in shootouts, but during a game he has shown next to nothing. But this is not totally surprising. When he got drafted the knock against Patrick was 1. his skating and 2. his pass first mentality, and he have seen this abundantly since he has entered the league. Maybe the Flyers (Hextall actually) rushed him into the lineup because physically he was ready and was drafted so high. But the bottom line, he has not developed into anything that I am sure the Flyers had hoped. If I could trade him for a piece, I would.
- jd250



He might have been rushed. Hextall dealt Schenn with the idea Patrick would be ready. I think Patrick’s best year was his rookie year. So maybe he was rushed. But honestly some of this has to be on the player. Yes he missed the entire year with a headache or concussion but he’s being given every opportunity to succeed this year and I see a kid that doesn’t want to engage...until he is willing to play as hard as his opponent he’ll continue to be a liability.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
Im sure we will be seeing Ghost on Monday.
matman31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: In Cognito
Joined: 12.14.2005

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
Man, your struggling to score, you cant wait for this team to show up
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
Poor Carter Hart .. that is all I can say! Good night folks ... I have seen enough of the train wreck tonight!
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