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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Mar 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
Good morning all, will get a blog up later. Great character win last night.

On Laf and Kakko, one word - patience. They are rounding their games and learning to play all 200 feet. Not every rookie or second year player will score at will immediately. Talent is there, give it a little time.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:59 PM ET
I missed the game but the highlights shows a solid team win, a continuation from yesterdays game (minus the blunder in the last 7 minutes).
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 1:20 PM ET
Good morning all, will get a blog up later. Great character win last night.

On Laf and Kakko, one word - patience. They are rounding their games and learning to play all 200 feet. Not every rookie or second year player will score at will immediately. Talent is there, give it a little time.

- airjan23


Patience for a 19 and 20yo???? Bite your tongue!!
ELew11
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 07.22.2016

Mar 21 @ 2:27 PM ET
Great win last night. Looks like Mika is back now, I expect him to revert to the player we expect him to be.

Funny stats

We have played 30 games, have 30 points
We are 13-13-4
Home we are 6-6-3
Road we are 7-7-1
S/O we are 1-1

Kramer would say we are Even Steven
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Mar 21 @ 2:37 PM ET
Patience for a 19 and 20yo???? Bite your tongue!!
- Brukie

Yes, I know, a very crazy concept.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 21 @ 3:26 PM ET
Good morning all, will get a blog up later. Great character win last night.

On Laf and Kakko, one word - patience. They are rounding their games and learning to play all 200 feet. Not every rookie or second year player will score at will immediately. Talent is there, give it a little time.

- airjan23

Patience is fine, but I think Kakko is at 19 games without a goal, Laf is at 9. And for anyone saying Kakko was playing great before he sat out those 4 games, prior to that he was goalless in 10 straight. That 3rd line is to young and inexperienced, they need to mix up these lines and get these guys going. Maybe once they get their scoring confidence they can put the line back together but until then they need to break them up.

Panarin Zib Kakko
Kreider Strome Laf
Buch Chytil Blackwell/Kravtsov
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 21 @ 7:38 PM ET
Patience is fine, but I think Kakko is at 19 games without a goal, Laf is at 9. And for anyone saying Kakko was playing great before he sat out those 4 games, prior to that he was goalless in 10 straight. That 3rd line is to young and inexperienced, they need to mix up these lines and get these guys going. Maybe once they get their scoring confidence they can put the line back together but until then they need to break them up.

Panarin Zib Kakko
Kreider Strome Laf
Buch Chytil Blackwell/Kravtsov

- nyrangers9479


So, no to patience, then?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 21 @ 7:47 PM ET
So, no to patience, then?
- Tonybere

19 games without a goal is more than enough patience. I don’t think they’re going to get their confidence by continually putting zeros up on the score sheet. You dont think they know how many games they’ve gone without a goal? Pretty soon they’ll start doubting themselves and then you have a whole other issue to deal with. Put each of the young guys on a line with 2 vets and let them start to build their confidence. If Zib is really back I’d even break up him and Panarin and have the lines look like this:

Laf Zib Buch
Panarin Chytil Blackwell/Gauthier
Kreider Strome Kakko
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 21 @ 10:43 PM ET
Let’s see who disagrees

Quinn has done a good job developing the young defenseman (Miller Lindgren Fox)

But terrible job developing the young forwards (Laf Kakko Chytil Gauthier Lemeuix Howden)
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Mar 22 @ 12:32 AM ET
Let’s see who disagrees

Quinn has done a good job developing the young defenseman (Miller Lindgren Fox)

But terrible job developing the young forwards (Laf Kakko Chytil Gauthier Lemeuix Howden)

- nyrangers9479


Quinn is a former defenseman, this should not surprise anyone he would have a greater impact on that position. I don't think he has done a "terrible " job developing forwards, but clearly not as good as with our young D...
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:02 AM ET
Let’s see who disagrees

Quinn has done a good job developing the young defenseman (Miller Lindgren Fox)

But terrible job developing the young forwards (Laf Kakko Chytil Gauthier Lemeuix Howden)

- nyrangers9479


the defensemen are all older though, it's not a coincidence

they havent tried breaking in 18 year old defensemen
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:05 AM ET
strange development last night was seeing Adam Huska on capfriendly added to the NHL roster, probably nothing, but I had thoughts they might try to see what he looks like in NHL game vs a team as bad as Buffalo to have a look at him
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:09 AM ET
the defensemen are all older though, it's not a coincidence

they havent tried breaking in 18 year old defensemen

- jimbro83


I do wish the young kids got some PP time. I hate that the first unit is out the entire time. It’s not like that unit is even good, bottom 5 in the league
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 22 @ 9:13 AM ET
the defensemen are all older though, it's not a coincidence

they havent tried breaking in 18 year old defensemen

- jimbro83

Lindgren 2016
Fox 2016
Miller 2018

Howden 2016
Lemeuix 2014
Gauthier 2016
Kakko 2019
Laf 2020
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 22 @ 9:14 AM ET
I do wish the young kids got some PP time. I hate that the first unit is out the entire time. It’s not like that unit is even good, bottom 5 in the league
- nyrangers2

Drives me crazy. Bottom 5 but they get 1:30 every PP
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:15 AM ET
I do wish the young kids got some PP time. I hate that the first unit is out the entire time. It’s not like that unit is even good, bottom 5 in the league
- nyrangers2


what they are really good at though is keeping the puck in the offensive zone

so by the time the opponent clears out, 1:30 has been killed off, so it's impossible usually to get PP2 out

PP1 just can't finish

Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Mar 22 @ 9:15 AM ET
Let’s see who disagrees

Quinn has done a good job developing the young defenseman (Miller Lindgren Fox)

But terrible job developing the young forwards (Laf Kakko Chytil Gauthier Lemeuix Howden)

- nyrangers9479

This list is a bit selective, no? What about how he's turned Buch and Strome into legit players? I get it, they were not kids when he got a hold of them, but Quinn did play a large role in their development. Same can be said about Zib. When Quinn became the coach, Zib gained 30pts...

There does seem to be a very clear path to success under Quinn, and for whatever reason it takes time and a level of responsibility to come to fruition. Not saying I agree with it one way or the other.

Much of the strong opinions about this team fail to acknowledge that things aren't so black and white. There is a lot of "grey area".
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:16 AM ET
Lindgren 2016
Fox 2016
Miller 2018

Howden 2016
Lemeuix 2014
Gauthier 2016
Kakko 2019
Laf 2020

- nyrangers9479


thanks man, I wasn't aware of any of this
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Mar 22 @ 9:17 AM ET
what they are really good at though is keeping the puck in the offensive zone

so by the time the opponent clears out, 1:30 has been killed off, so it's impossible usually to get PP2 out

PP1 just can't finish

- jimbro83

Possession doesn't put the puck in the back of the net though. They need to break up that unit and spread the wealth. Try to find chemistry in another form.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:17 AM ET
This list is a bit selective, no? What about how he's turned Buch and Strome into legit players? I get it, they were not kids when he got a hold of them, but Quinn did play a large role in their development. Same can be said about Zib. When Quinn became the coach, Zib gained 30pts...

There does seem to be a very clear path to success under Quinn and for whatever reason, it takes time and a level of responsibility to come to fruition. Not saying I agree with it one way or the other.

Much of the strong opinions about this team fail to acknowledge that things aren't so black and white. There is a lot of "grey area".

- Bean_Dip


obviously if you hate Quinn, you are going to design your argument and cherry pick stuff that fits your argument
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:18 AM ET
what they are really good at though is keeping the puck in the offensive zone

so by the time the opponent clears out, 1:30 has been killed off, so it's impossible usually to get PP2 out

PP1 just can't finish

- jimbro83



Agreed. They move the puck well. Panarin has been the best finisher. I think they need a shooter on the point there to help get some pucks at the net
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:18 AM ET
Possession doesn't put the puck in the back of the net though. They need to break up that unit and spread the wealth. Try to find chemistry in another form.
- Bean_Dip


yeah I get that, but it's like people want PP2 to change on the fly and you can't do that if the puck is in the offensive zone
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Mar 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
obviously if you hate Quinn, you are going to design your argument and cherry pick stuff that fits your argument
- jimbro83

Can say that about 100% of our culture these days
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:20 AM ET
Possession doesn't put the puck in the back of the net though. They need to break up that unit and spread the wealth. Try to find chemistry in another form.
- Bean_Dip



If they were as good as last year you could argue they would be in a PO spot right now
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 22 @ 9:23 AM ET
If they were as good as last year you could argue they would be in a PO spot right now
- nyrangers2


it's all Zibinajed, they need him to be great to win


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