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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
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Mar 19 @ 2:33 PM ET
I think that's less likely having no real LTIR for Geno. I'd be looking into Staal right now.
- Rinosaur



Ok ok ...im fine with that too...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 19 @ 2:35 PM ET
Ok ok ...im fine with that too...
- MattStrat


I think a move like that would be wise right now knowing it may only be a few weeks.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Mar 19 @ 2:37 PM ET
I think a move like that would be wise right now knowing it may only be a few weeks.
- Rinosaur



Yeah, week to week means he could be back next week...I know that's probably not likely but not that far fetched either. All depends on the rehab.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 19 @ 2:38 PM ET
Yeah, week to week means he could be back next week...I know that's probably not likely but not that far fetched either. All depends on the rehab.
- MattStrat


I'm thinking/hoping no more than three to four weeks.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 19 @ 2:39 PM ET
But then he follows up with this:




I'm not sure what to make of that, but I'll definitely take week to week.

- Rinosaur

This is the same guy that said this in the same press conference: https://twitter.com/pensi.../1372977460510396424?s=21

None of what Sullivan says means anything. Malkin is week to week is all we can really take away from this
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 19 @ 3:17 PM ET
This is the same guy that said this in the same press conference: https://twitter.com/pensi.../1372977460510396424?s=21

None of what Sullivan says means anything. Malkin is week to week is all we can really take away from this

- Victoro311

Sully also said Marino was a maintenance day lol
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 19 @ 3:50 PM ET
So what's with the Zohan kid? Is he supposed to be a find?
- Rinosaur

I've been joking about him, but in the current situation, I'd like to give Zohorna a shot. The 2 WBS I got to watch, he just jumped out every shift as the best player on the ice. This is of course a terrible way to get behind a prospect. These European UFAs are all kinds of random for NHL success.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 19 @ 3:58 PM ET
I've been joking about him, but in the current situation, I'd like to give Zohorna a shot. The 2 WBS I got to watch, he just jumped out every shift as the best player on the ice. This is of course a terrible way to get behind a prospect. These European UFAs are all kinds of random for NHL success.
- Tojo.


They have nothing to lose at this point IMO. The fourth liners are so terrible. How much worse can he be?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
Didn't see it mentioned, but Zucker started skating on his own yesterday. I know his season hasn't bern great, but right now Sam Lafferty is a top 9 wing.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 19 @ 4:30 PM ET
Didn't see it mentioned, but Zucker started skating on his own yesterday. I know his season hasn't bern great, but right now Sam Lafferty is a top 9 wing.
- Tojo.


Zucker has skated for two days on his own, but I'm sure he's still a ways away.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 19 @ 4:35 PM ET
Zucker has skated for two days on his own, but I'm sure he's still a ways away.
- Rinosaur


Maybe back for some playoff depth sort of like 09 Satan.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Mar 19 @ 4:39 PM ET
Didn't see it mentioned, but Zucker started skating on his own yesterday. I know his season hasn't bern great, but right now Sam Lafferty is a top 9 wing.
- Tojo.



Skating is first step obviously and with no setbacks a week or two later non contact...he'll be back within a month. I say grab Staal now for his return and have a dandy 3rd line consisting of those two.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
Just to comment on Zucker for a second. I've gone back and forth with him and his place on the team.

I think Zucker is a very good player and he started very strong for the Pens last year: 12 points in 15 games. Against MTL he was one of our better players, scored two goals while playing on a line with Geno.

I think Zucker it's entirely possible that Zucker, like Geno, just wasn't in game shape yet and probably needs to Geno to be Geno for him to excel.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 19 @ 4:49 PM ET
Zucker has skated for two days on his own, but I'm sure he's still a ways away.
- Rinosaur

Yea we won't see him till April maybe not even. He may get those few games in May before playoffs.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
Just to comment on Zucker for a second. I've gone back and forth with him and his place on the team.

I think Zucker is a very good player and he started very strong for the Pens last year: 12 points in 15 games. Against MTL he was one of our better players, scored two goals while playing on a line with Geno.

I think Zucker it's entirely possible that Zucker, like Geno, just wasn't in game shape yet and probably needs to Geno to be Geno for him to excel.

- Rinosaur

Yea that's a possibility too. But with this injury I think it would be best to try and have Zucker-McCann be a steady part of a third line.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 19 @ 4:56 PM ET
Skating is first step obviously and with no setbacks a week or two later non contact...he'll be back within a month. I say grab Staal now for his return and have a dandy 3rd line consisting of those two.
- MattStrat

Or this. Are you thinking?:
Guentz-Sid-Rust
McCann-Geno-Kap
Zuck-Staal-Rod(Trade)
ZAR-Blue-Tanev
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 19 @ 7:02 PM ET
I feel Staal is going to be like Brassard if he joins us. I would rather get Glendening. Or Dzingel as a winger. I think McCann can fill in for Malkin and possibly as our 4th line center option when Malkin comes back from injury. I think Dzingel would fill in well with Kapanen and Malkin until Zucker comes back from injury. I wouldn't mind Watson or Dzingel on the 4th line instead of Sceviour. Angello is the only bigger body we have. I think we need some size on the 4th line.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
I feel Staal is going to be like Brassard if he joins us. I would rather get Glendening. Or Dzingel as a winger. I think McCann can fill in for Malkin and possibly as our 4th line center option when Malkin comes back from injury. I think Dzingel would fill in well with Kapanen and Malkin until Zucker comes back from injury. I wouldn't mind Watson or Dzingel on the 4th line instead of Sceviour. Angello is the only bigger body we have. I think we need some size on the 4th line.
- 123Kid

Brassard and Staal are 2 different situations. Brassard was 30 when he came here and was still 2nd line material. Staal is no longer that. Not saying that I exactly want Staal but it's definitely different.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
Madden said he was told 3 weeks for Malkin. Could be worse I guess. I don't see how they get by with no Bluegs and Malkin for "weeks". Hextall needs to get something competent ASAP.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 19 @ 9:14 PM ET
Or this. Are you thinking?:
Guentz-Sid-Rust
McCann-Geno-Kap
Zuck-Staal-Rod(Trade)
ZAR-Blue-Tanev

- 668710


I think that looks fanfvckingtastic, yes. ERod can take a hike but if he doesn't I don't think he's been a negative factor to the Geno line... Perhaps I'm wrong.. But in a more sheltered role he should be ok I guess haha
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
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Mar 19 @ 9:27 PM ET
Madden said he was told 3 weeks for Malkin. Could be worse I guess. I don't see how they get by with no Bluegs and Malkin for "weeks". Hextall needs to get something competent ASAP.
- madmike71


Could be so much worse. At 3 weeks he'd still have around 13/14ish games left in regular season...around what it took for him to get going this season. Now he's getting rested as well.

I agree about Hex. Sooner than later, please.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 19 @ 9:29 PM ET
Brassard and Staal are 2 different situations. Brassard was 30 when he came here and was still 2nd line material. Staal is no longer that. Not saying that I exactly want Staal but it's definitely different.
- 668710


More so meant a lot of the fan base is calling for Staal to come here in hopes he will resurrect his career. I think he won't help this team move the needle. Much like Brassard didn't after he was acquired.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
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Mar 19 @ 9:31 PM ET
I feel Staal is going to be like Brassard if he joins us. I would rather get Glendening. Or Dzingel as a winger. I think McCann can fill in for Malkin and possibly as our 4th line center option when Malkin comes back from injury. I think Dzingel would fill in well with Kapanen and Malkin until Zucker comes back from injury. I wouldn't mind Watson or Dzingel on the 4th line instead of Sceviour. Angello is the only bigger body we have. I think we need some size on the 4th line.
- 123Kid


I don't see good o'le Ontario farm boy Staal being a diva like Frenchie Brassard. I think he was 3C'n for the Wild for extended periods of time, as well as wing, but could be wrong.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 19 @ 9:35 PM ET
More so meant a lot of the fan base is calling for Staal to come here in hopes he will resurrect his career. I think he won't help this team move the needle. Much like Brassard didn't after he was acquired.
- 123Kid


When Janko is no longer there and is replaced by Staal you've greatly improved your on ice product. Nobody is expecting a career resurrection at 35 but the guy can still play. He's great on FO's and PK. Was the captain of cup winner and maybe hungry to taste again. He and Zucker have been on the same line before. I think he'd be a good addition.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 19 @ 9:44 PM ET
When Janko is no longer there and is replaced by Staal you've greatly improved your on ice product. Nobody is expecting a career resurrection at 35 but the guy can still play. He's great on FO's and PK. Was the captain of cup winner and maybe hungry to taste again. He and Zucker have been on the same line before. I think he'd be a good addition.
- MattStrat


Not to mention prob would be stoked to get out of dumpster fire Buffalo
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