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JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Mar 18 @ 8:19 AM ET
I would agree that the Isles could use a net front presence with that Captain out for the rest of the season. However, I hope Lou is smart enough here not to give away the farm.

I think Palmieri makes more sense then Hall. Both on the cost and impact side of things. I would really like to see Forsberg but I think that move would take away from the team chemistry too much.

What about making a play for Jamie Benn? What do you think the cost would be for that?

- Nfdbulldawg

Dallas is considering trading Jamie Benn who just captained the team to the Cup Finals??????

niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 18 @ 8:40 AM ET
https://theathletic.com/2...source=emp_shared_article staple speculating we would trade for Janmark. Interesting read...
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Mar 18 @ 8:43 AM ET
Good finish as well...

Flyers are going to be pretty inspired tonight after the arse whooping they got last night from the Rangers. Islanders have to be ready to weather the storm most likely in the first...

- Cptmjl


Agreed on both counts.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Mar 18 @ 8:47 AM ET
I would agree that the Isles could use a net front presence with that Captain out for the rest of the season. However, I hope Lou is smart enough here not to give away the farm.

I think Palmieri makes more sense then Hall. Both on the cost and impact side of things. I would really like to see Forsberg but I think that move would take away from the team chemistry too much.

What about making a play for Jamie Benn? What do you think the cost would be for that?

- Nfdbulldawg


IF Benn chose to waive his NMC, and IF Dallas decided to move their captain, then the price would be steep. Yet not quite as steep as his current 9.5 million per year deal, that STILL has 4 more years after this.

I’m a fan of the player, but I want no part of that contract.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Mar 18 @ 8:49 AM ET
https://theathletic.com/2457688/2021/03/18/why-the-islanders-could-trade-for-blackhawks-forward-mattias-janmark/?source=emp_shared_article staple speculating we would trade for Janmark. Interesting read...
- niteislander


Janmark makes a great deal of sense actually. And acquiring him would likely still leave enough room for Lou to grab additional defender.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 18 @ 8:49 AM ET
Flyers are going to be an angry bunch tomorrow wow
- Cptmjl



They're lost right now.. watched a few of their recent games. Young Defenseman are just lost out there and you can tell Hart and Elliot are just getting annoyed. some off the big forward contracts look like they just don't care (Voracek and TK). I hope they continue to struggle for a few more games.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 18 @ 8:50 AM ET
Janmark makes a great deal of sense actually. And acquiring him would likely still leave enough room for Lou to grab additional defender.
- Wildschwein


"Final thoughts
While Bowman and Lamoriello are talking, it might just make sense for them to discuss Andrew Ladd as well. A source said the Blackhawks are willing to take on a bad contract or two. Their preference is an expiring contract, but they’d explore something longer. They have a ton of cap space right now because of everyone who is on LTIR. They could easily fit Ladd’s $5.5 million cap hit into their books this season and next. The third season would be more challenging, but they could probably make it work if the return was enticing enough."

I would give a lot more up to get rid of Ladd.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 18 @ 8:58 AM ET
The Flyers Pairing of Sanheim/Myers has been just horrific. talking to a buddy of mine the last game and we were commenting while watching how lost those 3 were.. specifically Myers. Looks like Isles defense under Weight.... those 2 were -6 last night and AV didn't break them up.... hope we see them still together tonight.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Mar 18 @ 9:03 AM ET
The Flyers Pairing of Sanheim/Myers has been just horrific. talking to a buddy of mine the last game and we were commenting while watching how lost those 3 were.. specifically Myers. Looks like Isles defense under Weight.... those 2 were -6 last night and AV didn't break them up.... hope we see them still together tonight.
- niteislander


I think Gostisbehere will play tonight over one of them.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Mar 18 @ 9:04 AM ET
"Final thoughts
While Bowman and Lamoriello are talking, it might just make sense for them to discuss Andrew Ladd as well. A source said the Blackhawks are willing to take on a bad contract or two. Their preference is an expiring contract, but they’d explore something longer. They have a ton of cap space right now because of everyone who is on LTIR. They could easily fit Ladd’s $5.5 million cap hit into their books this season and next. The third season would be more challenging, but they could probably make it work if the return was enticing enough."

I would give a lot more up to get rid of Ladd.

- niteislander


Ladd and a 1st for future considerations?

Or Ladd, Bellows and a 1st for Janmark?
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 18 @ 9:11 AM ET
I think Gostisbehere will play tonight over one of them.
- Wildschwein


He played the first game and looked terrible too. It looks to me like Myers is just completely lost and Sanheim is scrambling to cover for him. I wouldn't be surprised to see them trade a bunch of guys. keep Prov and Sanheim and trade one or 2 of Ghost and Myers to get a veteran D-man.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 18 @ 9:13 AM ET
Ladd and a 1st for future considerations?

Or Ladd, Bellows and a 1st for Janmark?

- Wildschwein



done...

I wasn't really interested in trading for Janmark as he is having a career year until I read that last part. You tell me you are willing to take Ladd? ... ok what do u want?
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 18 @ 9:18 AM ET
https://twitter.com/David.../1372281192234414083?s=20 Probably the only time you can be "relieved" when a player informs you he was out with a concussion. I feared the worst with Robin.... and while concussion is certainly not a good thing I am happy to hear his Mental health and addiction issues are still in check.
HolyDiver83
New York Islanders
Location: UBS Arena, NY
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 18 @ 9:29 AM ET
"Final thoughts
While Bowman and Lamoriello are talking, it might just make sense for them to discuss Andrew Ladd as well. A source said the Blackhawks are willing to take on a bad contract or two. Their preference is an expiring contract, but they’d explore something longer. They have a ton of cap space right now because of everyone who is on LTIR. They could easily fit Ladd’s $5.5 million cap hit into their books this season and next. The third season would be more challenging, but they could probably make it work if the return was enticing enough."

I would give a lot more up to get rid of Ladd.

- niteislander



Amen!

Time for Lou to make a deal!

Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 18 @ 10:32 AM ET

Obviously there are a lot of options on players and teams to deal with but the Devils are certainly capable of retaining salary to make a deal easier...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 18 @ 10:40 AM ET
Obviously there are a lot of options on players and teams to deal with but the Devils are certainly capable of retaining salary to make a deal easier...
- Queenie_5_hole

I don't think it's so much that the Islanders need salary retained in a deal as much as they do to dump someone off the current roster who is under contract next year. They'll probably want to include Komarov in any deal they make to clear a little room next year.

My gut says Lou will probably pay retail for rentals but, in return for not negotiating too hard, he'll want someone to take Komarov
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 18 @ 11:08 AM ET
I don't think it's so much that the Islanders need salary retained in a deal as much as they do to dump someone off the current roster who is under contract next year. They'll probably want to include Komarov in any deal they make to clear a little room next year.

My gut says Lou will probably pay retail for rentals but, in return for not negotiating too hard, he'll want someone to take Komarov

- eichiefs9


Clearing some space totally makes senses. Looks like Komarov had a no trade clause to boot. So certainly not an easy deal to get done...

Hypothetically if we traded K-Palms and took Komarov what would you give NJ?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 18 @ 11:11 AM ET
Janmark makes a great deal of sense actually. And acquiring him would likely still leave enough room for Lou to grab additional defender.
- Wildschwein


JAnmark for me would make a great addition to our 3rd line to play with JGP and Wally.
This definitely doesn’t replace Lee for me, however the fact his cap hit is only ~2.5 mil. I’m thinking Hickey or Komarov (and my God if Lou can pull off a Ladd unloading) then there’s more than enough room for Lou to go get Palmieri or similar and a depth d man with Lee’s LTIR relief on top of that. Just Hickey and or Komarov with Lee’s LTIR is enough without giving up too much.
I just don’t think the Isles have the Prospects or picks valuable enough to have Bowman take that 3 year Ladd deal so a Hickey or Komarov contract would be easier in-terms of cost imho.
Also looking ahead I think Ladd can become next year LTIR play which wouldn’t cost any assets. We all know Lou is constructing a Villa on Robidas Island with Mr Ladd’s name on it.
Have to think Lou is all over the phones looking to add the max he can to give this team a chance to win it all.
Leo_Union
New York Islanders
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 08.08.2015

Mar 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
If the ancient mariner Lou can trade Clutterbuck or Komorov or even Mayfield (losing him to Seattle) along with a first rd pick for Forsberg do it. But he must stay away from Hall and Duchane, losers who rot any room they go in.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
If the ancient mariner Lou can trade Clutterbuck or Komorov or even Mayfield (losing him to Seattle) along with a first rd pick for Forsberg do it. But he must stay away from Hall and Duchane, losers who rot any room they go in.
- Leo_Union


Why would you trade Clutter or Mayfield who are certainly a part of what makes this team work this year? We are looking to add depth to our d corps so trading any defender not named Hickey or Aho makes no sense to me at this point. Adding Forsberg would be great for this year but then becomes a huge problem next year with the $6.0 million cap hit for next year. It will mean trading pieces of the current team which Trotz can’t be too excited about with the Chemistry this team has.
Just my opinion of course.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 18 @ 11:32 AM ET
I don't think it's so much that the Islanders need salary retained in a deal as much as they do to dump someone off the current roster who is under contract next year. They'll probably want to include Komarov in any deal they make to clear a little room next year.

My gut says Lou will probably pay retail for rentals but, in return for not negotiating too hard, he'll want someone to take Komarov

- eichiefs9


100% agree.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 18 @ 11:36 AM ET
Why would you trade Clutter or Mayfield who are certainly a part of what makes this team work this year? We are looking to add depth to our d corps so trading any defender not named Hickey or Aho makes no sense to me at this point. Adding Forsberg would be great for this year but then becomes a huge problem next year with the $6.0 million cap hit for next year. It will mean trading pieces of the current team which Trotz can’t be too excited about with the Chemistry this team has.
Just my opinion of course.

- nyisles7

I believe he was referring to mayfield getting nabbed in the expansion draft? I would take it a step further and say that even aho is a little untouchable at this point. He looks at least serviceable so far unless Lou is looking for some depth with size for the playoffs(which he probably is). Unless we find a to get rid of a lot of salary we’re not taking any contracts on for next year.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Mar 18 @ 11:37 AM ET
JAnmark for me would make a great addition to our 3rd line to play with JGP and Wally. This definitely doesn’t replace Lee for me, however the fact his cap hit is only ~2.5 mil. I’m thinking Hickey or Komarov (and my God if Lou can pull off a Ladd unloading) then there’s more than enough room for Lou to go get Palmieri or similar and a depth d man with Lee’s LTIR relief on top of that. Just Hickey and or Komarov with Lee’s LTIR is enough without giving up too much.
- nyisles7


Certainly not. I’d hope Lou could add an additional D like Oleksiak as well, in addition to Janmark.

slapshot018
New York Islanders
Location: 4, NY
Joined: 08.04.2011

Mar 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
Why would you trade Clutter or Mayfield who are certainly a part of what makes this team work this year? We are looking to add depth to our d corps so trading any defender not named Hickey or Aho makes no sense to me at this point. Adding Forsberg would be great for this year but then becomes a huge problem next year with the $6.0 million cap hit for next year. It will mean trading pieces of the current team which Trotz can’t be too excited about with the Chemistry this team has.
Just my opinion of course.

- nyisles7


but isnt the goal to build a roster with the best players possible? forsberg is a good player, seems to be a good guy in the locker room. hes a legit first line player. i think if you can get him here, you worry about the cap over the summer. our cap situation sucks, so there has to be some creativity in play here.

janmark is an ok player but far from the deadline splash this team needs to contend.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 18 @ 11:49 AM ET
Clearing some space totally makes senses. Looks like Komarov had a no trade clause to boot. So certainly not an easy deal to get done...

Hypothetically if we traded K-Palms and took Komarov what would you give NJ?

- Queenie_5_hole

He has a 7-team no-trade list. It shouldn't be overly prohibitive, but I guess nobody has any idea who's on it.

I probably wouldn't pay any more than a 2021 1st for Palmieri with Komarov packaged along with it. A lot of speculation Palmieri might not even be worth that much. Ideally, without Komarov, I think something like two 2nd's would be fair for Palmieri...but if they took Komarov too I think a 1st this year would be reasonable. But not next year's, which it seems like is going to be the more desirable of the two draft years.
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