@NHL_Watcher

Dreger on TSN690 says there is a decent chance Jack Eichel gets dealt, but if it happens it will happen in the offseason. #LetsGoBuffalo

I'm firmly in the camp that trading Eichel would be a massive mistake (especially given the current Sabres brain trust).

When he's right, he's a baaad man.

If the Sabres changed their organizational structure, I'd have a bit more faith in a trade being something other than a complete disaster
- jcragcrumple

But if you change the organizational structure you may appease jack enough to actually have a happy jack a happy, captain Jack and will get you high tonight And take you to your special island.

And there in lies the catch .22... zero organizational structure change, jack is miffed, forces a trade after the NTC kicks in and limits the team options and forces the hands of the current brain trust to move jack which might be like watching a car full of kittens crash and burn over a cliff....

Structural change and there is a chance the organization can reconcile with Jack and I feel like the team is dancing on that razors...

It’s going to be 10 more years of a black hole or the Pegula’s finally, FINALLY, open their eyes and realize the error of their ways... so very many errors in so many different ways...

1- owner sets budget.

2- hire a president (experienced, successful, hockey president) send Kim to the yacht

3- let the president do hockey things

* Kevyn can stay on as AGM, GM of the America... I’d say clean house, but Kevyn has been a loyal soldier and Pegs seems to like being loyal (to a fault sometimes) to those that are loyal to him...

You're not gonna watch Sheahan center tall guy on the first line tonight?

Your loss
- jcragcrumple

Oh. I’m gonna have it on! I wanna see Ovie make history! He can get to 5 tonight? Or is it 6? He can jump two spots, he’s gonna be motivated....

Eichel is more than a tier above him. Come on now.
- kingcong39

I'll try to explain this slowly.

Right now, Eichel is a far more valuable player than Johansen. Not even close.

But at the time of the Johansen-Jones trade, Johansen was widely considered as a 1C that was still improving. Even at his height, still a notch below where Eichel stands today.

Not rocket science here. The point is...Eichel is still highly valued around the NHL and could land several premium assets. To simply claim that he shouldn't be traded because 1C's are hard to find is foolish. Every deal should be on the table.

I'll try to explain this slowly.

Right now, Eichel is a far more valuable player than Johansen. Not even close.

But at the time of the Johansen-Jones trade, Johansen was widely considered as a 1C that was still improving. Even at his height, still a notch below where Eichel stands today.

Not rocket science here. The point is...Eichel is still highly valued around the NHL and could land several premium assets. To simply claim that he shouldn't be traded because 1C's are hard to find is foolish. Every deal should be on the table.
- Kooleus

Ok. What are you giving up from the Kings to land Eichel?

@NHL_Watcher

Dreger on TSN690 says there is a decent chance Jack Eichel gets dealt, but if it happens it will happen in the offseason. #LetsGoBuffalo
- Elite Josh Allen

Is Dahlin good yet? I'd rather trade him.

I'll try to explain this slowly.

Right now, Eichel is a far more valuable player than Johansen. Not even close.

But at the time of the Johansen-Jones trade, Johansen was widely considered as a 1C that was still improving. Even at his height, still a notch below where Eichel stands today.

Not rocket science here. The point is...Eichel is still highly valued around the NHL and could land several premium assets. To simply claim that he shouldn't be traded because 1C's are hard to find is foolish. Every deal should be on the table.
- Kooleus

I’m certainly listening to any and all offers and I’ll use other teams to drive the cost up where possible but the list of teams I’d actually trade Jack to is pretty short... a young center would have to come back...

So you look at LA, Ducks, Ottawa... the rangers can take a walk... as well as Boston.

But if I don’t get a deal that pretty much screams, I gotta do it, I’m probably not trading jack.

Is Dahlin good yet? I'd rather trade him.

- Sir Tindoom

Nope nope nope... hire a real coach and Dahlin will be fine! Ralph is trying to make Dahlin something he isn’t. Hell, Ralph is trying to make the entire team something it was never constructed to be and he has zero clue how to adjust. Just keeps trying to smash round pegs into square holes.

Find a real coach!

Nice read and thanks for doing that. Look forward to more if you are given the opportunity.

The #Bills are rumored to be interested in WR/KR Cordarrelle Patterson.

With the departure of Andre Roberts to the #Texans, Patterson can fill the void in the return game.

Patterson also has experience as a wide receiver, and running back. In 2020, Patterson had over 1K kick return yards, and 1 TD.

#BuffaloBills #BillsMafia #GoBills #OneBuffalo #BuiltInBuffalo

Nope nope nope... hire a real coach and Dahlin will be fine! Ralph is trying to make Dahlin something he isn’t. Hell, Ralph is trying to make the entire team something it was never constructed to be and he has zero clue how to adjust. Just keeps trying to smash round pegs into square holes.

Find a real coach!
- Gr8daygo

So easy , it's the coach.

Bring in bbq

Also, gilles as hockey president

I'm firmly in the camp that trading Eichel would be a massive mistake (especially given the current Sabres brain trust).

When he's right, he's a baaad man.

If the Sabres changed their organizational structure, I'd have a bit more faith in a trade being something other than a complete disaster
- jcragcrumple

There’s little chance you get back equal value for Eichel no matter who is your GM. Players of his caliber never get enough of a return that’s close to satisfy the fan base and think they did ok. With that said I don’t think that necessarily means you shouldn’t trade him. Sounds crazy I’m sure but you very well may be better off without him.

Looking at it from the outside albeit with a heck of a lot less knowledge of him then you I wouldn’t want that guy leading my team. He folds every time the team falters. That’s not a leader imo. I’ll also add I don’t think you’ll have much of a choice he doesn’t seem like he wants to see this through from where I’m sitting...

Who knows maybe it’ll be addition by subtraction long term for you guys...

I say Ristolainen and Girgensons are the foundation to build around.

Career losers with 0 playoff games.

Am I doing this right?

I say Ristolainen and Girgensons are the foundation to build around.

Career losers with 0 playoff games.

Am I doing this right?
- sbroads24

Well, points don't matter so......

Even strength scoring only matters when your proving a point about a player....

Girgensons career 52 out of 61 even strength goals
Risto career 31 out of 45 even strength goals


But jeff skinner is the best
Dahlin is a budding superstar
Ror was fine at hockey and would have a back injury by last year
Quinn hughes, terrible , he's out there when the other team scores. Disregard his point totals.
Tyler myers - 😀😀😀


Who's the next bad take?

Nice job JCgrag! Good read.

Nice job JCgrag! Good read.
- IonSabres

Thank you, and thanks to all for the kind words.

This community represents the die-hard fans who have weathered 10 years of incompetence. Somehow we're still here

Why is Kreuger hardly playing or not playing Skinner? From an outside perspective I don't get why Kreueger is still around. Hopefully things get better for the Sabres soon.

Well, points don't matter so......

Even strength scoring only matters when your proving a point about a player....

Girgensons career 52 out of 61 even strength goals
Risto career 31 out of 45 even strength goals


But jeff skinner is the best
Dahlin is a budding superstar
Ror was fine at hockey and would have a back injury by last year
Quinn hughes, terrible , he's out there when the other team scores. Disregard his point totals.
Tyler myers - 😀😀😀

Who's the next bad take?
- Boss34

Taylor Hall, a youthful player who rarely misses games and has sustained elite play ...
he is worth 8 x $8m!

Why is Kreuger hardly playing or not playing Skinner? From an outside perspective I don't get why Kreueger is still around. Hopefully things get better for the Sabres soon.
- FlamesFan1230

The Sabres are the NHL's version of the movie Inception. The damn totem keeps spinning in perpetuity!

Ok. What are you giving up from the Kings to land Eichel?
- kingcong39

If I was the Kings my only offer for Eichel would be a low-ball one. As I said, I think he's a bit of a loser that probably never leads a team to a championship. But suppose the Kings offered the following:

Byfield, Anderson-Dolan, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick

or

Turcotte, Kaliyev, 1st round pick, warm body like Kempe

That 1st rounder is likely in the top 10. I listen to that.

Taylor Hall, a youthful player who rarely misses games and has sustained elite play ...
he is worth 8 x $8m!
- IonSabres

Guy's a winner, everywhere he's been
Played great this season
Great leader , especially on the ice
Consistent
Durable
Real difference maker
Looks extremely fresh
Very competitive shift in and shift out
2 goals are Ralph's fault
Pp specialist and great pk guy
Dominating 5 x 5
Adds toughness
Hard to play against

If I was the Kings my only offer for Eichel would be a low-ball one. As I said, I think he's a bit of a loser that probably never leads a team to a championship. But suppose the Kings offered the following:

Byfield, Anderson-Dolan, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick

or

Turcotte, Kaliyev, 1st round pick, warm body like Kempe

That 1st rounder is likely in the top 10. I listen to that.
- Kooleus

Convinced of that already at the age of 24?

If I was the Kings my only offer for Eichel would be a low-ball one. As I said, I think he's a bit of a loser that probably never leads a team to a championship. But suppose the Kings offered the following:

Byfield, Anderson-Dolan, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick

or

Turcotte, Kaliyev, 1st round pick, warm body like Kempe

That 1st rounder is likely in the top 10. I listen to that.
- Kooleus

Eichel and Hall
For
Byfield, Turcott, 2021-1st, 2022-1st and Kempe

Why is Kreuger hardly playing or not playing Skinner? From an outside perspective I don't get why Kreueger is still around. Hopefully things get better for the Sabres soon.
- FlamesFan1230

Keep some consistency in the management ranks

Fire krueger

Can't keep starting over

Fire krueger


From my perspective, it's skimmers fault as well.
He just doesn't score or play within the system.

Although, point's really don't matter, so skimmer is earning his 9 million per. Having a great season.
%💯0 better than laine.
Better contract too

I'm not sure of his high pressure passing posession #'s , I'm sure they're off the charts..

Eichel and Hall
For
Byfield, Turcott, 2021-1st, 2022-1st and Kempe
- IonSabres

We doing that at the trade deadline