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NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Mar 15 @ 12:47 PM ET
He may not be happy with the idea of a one-year deal. But, Buch had better realize that he is going to be one of a bunch of guys who get (frank)ed by the 4 year flat cap. He is due a raise, for sure. But, I doubt he will be near the $5M level. Under normal circumstances I would think $5M is about right for him. This summer? I'd say $4.5 max. Maybe even more like $4.25M
I know someone has to be moved. And, I know it likely is Buch. But, that would be good value for what he gives us.

- Tonybere


Oh I bet he'd be really annoyed. He will definitely want his pay day contract. But being an RFA, this is the business, so he will have to choose how he deals with it. If the Rangers were to be able to sign Buch at 4.25Mil a year, that would be a steal IMO. I can see his value on the market being 5+. Not saying that's what the Rangers should sign him for at all.
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Mar 15 @ 12:54 PM ET
Does this happen very often? Honestly asking. It seems counterintuitive that someone would move from wing to the middle as they take a big step up in competition.
- Tonybere


It’s definitely happened but not very often. But you’re right, Rookie season is probably a tough time to try it. Claude Giroux was a winger when drafted (think he’s back to wing now). PLD was a winger most of his life, and the big one... Mark Messier was drafted a winger lol. Also believe Zetterberg may have been a wing when drafted.

Edit: Sebastian Aho too
DONMURDOCH14
New York Rangers
Joined: 04.21.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:23 PM ET


I remember TJ's man crush on Bickell.

- mdw7413




That's a LOOOOONNNNGGGGGG time ago
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 15 @ 2:06 PM ET
It’s definitely happened but not very often. But you’re right, Rookie season is probably a tough time to try it. Claude Giroux was a winger when drafted (think he’s back to wing now). PLD was a winger most of his life, and the big one... Mark Messier was drafted a winger lol. Also believe Zetterberg may have been a wing when drafted.

Edit: Sebastian Aho too

- TC88


Hmmm. More high profile names then I would have thought.
I always thought Moose was just moved to the wing from center due to Edmonton's roster make up.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Mar 15 @ 2:14 PM ET
The year Barkov is having is tremendous, so Im a little concerned about what the cost would be to get him. The one good thing with him unlike Eichel is that he has leverage with a NMC. So if he puts his foot down and says this team and only this team then someone will hit the jackpot.

Moving onto next season... personally, Id like for them to get rid of Greg Brown and David Oliver. I want to see someone come in who can really pull the skill out of these guys. The extreme would be to fire Quinn and the whole staff (except Jacques Martin). I know Ive not been a Quinn-bandwagoner but I also kinda want to consider this year a mulligan. Im extremely curious and would very muck like to see Malhotra be our head coach.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 15 @ 3:21 PM ET
The year Barkov is having is tremendous, so Im a little concerned about what the cost would be to get him. The one good thing with him unlike Eichel is that he has leverage with a NMC. So if he puts his foot down and says this team and only this team then someone will hit the jackpot.

Moving onto next season... personally, Id like for them to get rid of Greg Brown and David Oliver. I want to see someone come in who can really pull the skill out of these guys. The extreme would be to fire Quinn and the whole staff (except Jacques Martin). I know Ive not been a Quinn-bandwagoner but I also kinda want to consider this year a mulligan. Im extremely curious and would very muck like to see Malhotra be our head coach.

- aecliptic


starting July 1st, Barkov goes from a NMC to a 12 team NTC
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 15 @ 3:28 PM ET
Kakko 2021 1st

Pettersson and Podkolzin

You doing it?
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 15 @ 3:31 PM ET
starting July 1st, Barkov goes from a NMC to a 12 team NTC
- jimbro83


I fail to see how trying to sign Barkov to his next contract would be that much different than trying to fit Eichel's in. I would take Barkov over Eichel every day of the week, but we'd still have ~$30M on the books for 3 guys, with multiple players coming off ELC's each of the next few years.
My feeling is that we will go forward with superstar wingers, superstar d-men, hopefully a superstar goalie, and will have to find value at center. Not the normal recipe for a Cup, but hopefully the depth will offset it.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 15 @ 3:32 PM ET
Kakko 2021 1st

Pettersson and Podkolzin

You doing it?

- nyrangers9479


Vancouver isn't.
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Mar 15 @ 3:33 PM ET
Kakko 2021 1st

Pettersson and Podkolzin

You doing it?

- nyrangers9479

Yeah, probably. Resign Buch, Kravs/Gaut fight for middle 6 RW and add to the cupboard with Podkolzin. Would stink to see Kakko go elsewhere, especially given his much improved season even with a lack of pts. At least he would be across the continent if he did start to light the lamp.

I don't see why Vancouver would do this, though.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 15 @ 3:44 PM ET
I fail to see how trying to sign Barkov to his next contract would be that much different than trying to fit Eichel's in. I would take Barkov over Eichel every day of the week, but we'd still have ~$30M on the books for 3 guys, with multiple players coming off ELC's each of the next few years.
My feeling is that we will go forward with superstar wingers, superstar d-men, hopefully a superstar goalie, and will have to find value at center. Not the normal recipe for a Cup, but hopefully the depth will offset it.

- Tonybere


Eichel is done as a trade target, Buffalo blew it, damaged goods
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 15 @ 3:47 PM ET
Kakko 2021 1st

Pettersson and Podkolzin

You doing it?

- nyrangers9479

TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Mar 15 @ 3:54 PM ET
Kakko 2021 1st

Pettersson and Podkolzin

You doing it?

- nyrangers9479



I would do it and Vancouver can keep Podkolzin...
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 15 @ 4:02 PM ET

- eichiefs9


I would have done that but he gets mad when I diss his trade proposals
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 15 @ 4:11 PM ET
Eichel is done as a trade target, Buffalo blew it, damaged goods
- jimbro83


That wasn't my point.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Mar 15 @ 4:16 PM ET
I would have done that but he gets mad when I diss his trade proposals
- jimbro83



jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
That wasn't my point.
- Tonybere


oh I get it, I am just doing that everytime I see Eichel's name now regardless of context
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 15 @ 5:00 PM ET
oh I get it, I am just doing that everytime I see Eichel's name now regardless of context
- jimbro83

He must clean up with the girls. Just got to rock that paper bag but keep the wallet out
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 15 @ 5:20 PM ET
It’s like a playoff game tonight fellas.👍
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Mar 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
Tarmo called up....
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 15 @ 5:35 PM ET
I would have done that but he gets mad when I diss his trade proposals
- jimbro83

Na, I realized as soon as I hit submit, why would Vancouver but just left it haha. Point being, if we targeted a guy like Pettersson would guys be ok with giving up Kakko
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 15 @ 5:35 PM ET
It’s like a playoff game tonight fellas.👍
- Vukota

frank off and go enjoy your regular season trophy
Rangers99
New York Rangers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 15 @ 5:36 PM ET
Fox and buch on covid list
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 15 @ 5:37 PM ET
Tarmo called up....
- airjan23

Buch and Fox both out tonight?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 15 @ 5:37 PM ET
Fox and buch on covid list
- Rangers99

surprised they are playing this game tonight
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