Speaking of snipers.

Do you all think Stamkos > Bure? Or did he just play on better teams?
- DrMidnite

No. IMO, Bure in his prime was a consistently elite player. Injuries have hampered Stamkos’ play throughout his career.

Bure was something out of a video game: 99 speed, 99 hands, 99 shot.

A lot of what McDavid does these days... harkens back to Bure.

Ugh another loss to a blindganger like Buffalo will make this board sore. Even the blind Homer's will demand a firesale and quality players from abroad
- Landsbergfan

😆 But the Sabres is definitely a bomb that will go off. Hope flyers not have to blow it up if this season goes to the dogs
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It has been said here and in other places that they Flyers played a great 1st Pd overall and then were overwhelmed in the 2nd and 3rd. But I see it slightly different. One thing I noticed was the Flyers seemed a little less aggressive after their 1st PK in the 1P, which was the ridiculous one where TK got the bogus call for goalie interference. I think that is where the game really turned for them.

Not that it's an excuse, but when you get a crazy call like that, even if it doesn't affect the score, that afterward they could have just been a little too afraid of getting more of those absurd penalties and having to spend too much time on the PK. I think it subconsciously creeps in the heads of the players that the refs are going to do this kind of (poop), it tends to slow the players decision making down long enough for them to lose and edge to their game.

I don't know what the coaches said to them on the bench and in the locker room between periods after that call and PK, but I would have made it clear that even if the spend they rest of the night in the box for playing that aggressively, it's the right thing to do. I'd also tell them I'd rather it result in a loss with a clear admonishment on the refs than them holding back a little and playing not to lose.

On the other hand, these guys are pros and played enough games to know that they shouldn't let the bad calls dictate the way they play. At least that's the cliche. I still wonder it got into their heads just a little bit, though.

But that's just way I see it and I might not be totally right. There were other obvious factors that led to the loss this time. Such as Samsonov being underrated in this game. He did really tighten up real good after he let Farabee get his fivehole. But there were other reasons, as others have already pointed out.

😆 But the Sabres is definitely a bomb that will go off. Hope flyers not have to blow it up if this season goes to the dogs
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- THE EVIL WITHIN

They don't. Just move on from Clode and Bobby.

Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Caps 3 - Flyers 1; Quick Hits for March 8, 2021
- bmeltzer

There was a point in the first half of the game where the Giroux, Voracek and Patrick line had really good pressure going in the offensive zone. Really solid passing. Within this shift, I wanna say Patrick left a drop pass for Giroux on the left half wall and Giroux skates high near the blue line where he could have dropped the puck to Provorov (I believe it was) but decided to hang on to the puck and dumped it into an empty corner where the caps easily picked the puck up and took the play the other way. It was in that moment that I felt that Giroux needs to realize he’s not 26 anymore. There are certain things he can’t get away with anymore. It’s time he Simplifies his game.

Might be time to start talking about Hart having a down year so far and at almost -6 GSAA (Elliot is +3 GSAA) it's been a killer. It's not all him, but he's not erasing team defense mistakes like he was last season. Hopefully he can find his game soon. .
- atibus

Said this a month and half ago...They play better in front of Moose. And Moose has done a better job bailing them out.

Is it our system? Our opponents always seem to know where their teammates are and we seem to pass to no one in particular more times than not.

Is it our system? Our opponents always seem to know where their teammates are and we seem to pass to no one in particular more times than not.
- Bayareaflyer

Can anyone tell me what system they actually play? Dump the puck up the boards?

Overall I'm certain that Flyers management was hoping that Morin, Sanheim, and Provorov would be matched with Myers and Ghost to form a bedrock D corps for a long period. To think that all but one of those players has panned out is amazing. Adding Niskanen and Braun was needed to guide the youngsters. Losing Nisk was devastating. Likewise Frost, Patty, and Farabee should have allowed them to depend less on G and Jake. Its apparent that only Farabee is going to be a consistently reliable offensive force for the time being. There is a lot of youth with great potential on the way. Its up to Fletcher to decide to either stay patient and look to the future. Knowing his history, I believe it'll be the latter.

Jake on the PP is the other teams best PKer. How many times does he make a bad pass either out of the zone or right to the other team? The whole PP (both units, all combos) is frustrating.

I don't have an answer other than flipping special team coaches or flat out firing Therian. I have to imagine that would be difficult mid-season especially with lack of practice time. Hard to install a new PP system that way.

One or two breakdowns almost every game have ended up in the net and costing us. Hart's numbers are poor this season but he's getting very little help.

I actually think that our record should/could be worse.

Said this a month and half ago...They play better in front of Moose. And Moose has done a better job bailing them out.
- JW98FlyerFan

It's a Catch 22. We need to win and need to get Carter minutes. But Carter is not helping us win and he can't get minutes on the bench.

Speaking of snipers.

Do you all think Stamkos > Bure? Or did he just play on better teams?
- DrMidnite

no

blindganger

German for dud.

Nice

- MBFlyerfan

I am convinced he is German. This is not the first time such idiosyncratic idiom has crept in. But he will not engage on that front so I can't be certain.

And the dude whose book you plugged before erasing the post - he is an amateur musician who has played gigs in South Jersey, and you have mentioned you are from that area and "fairly successful musician" yourself. Do you guys know each other in real life?

Can anyone tell me what system they actually play? Dump the puck up the boards?
- login

Its called MOFO: Mad Outlets Freestyling w/o Order

Last year in the 2nd half of season, for the first time in years, I saw Flyers take time to compose their rush from the back end. They would methodically establish possession, one guy turning to shake off forwards, and perhaps a 2nd D man coming close to help out, and a F taking the first forward pass when in the zone, then hitting center ice with speed.

But in the playoffs, we learned that this personnel was vulnerable to a determined forecheck. I can't tell if what we are seeing is a reaction to that, or if it just reflects short training camp and so many new faces and new lines and it will improve.

It has been said here and in other places that they Flyers played a great 1st Pd overall and then were overwhelmed in the 2nd and 3rd. But I see it slightly different. One thing I noticed was the Flyers seemed a little less aggressive after their 1st PK in the 1P, which was the ridiculous one where TK got the bogus call for goalie interference. I think that is where the game really turned for them.

Not that it's an excuse, but when you get a crazy call like that, even if it doesn't affect the score, that afterward they could have just been a little too afraid of getting more of those absurd penalties and having to spend too much time on the PK. I think it subconsciously creeps in the heads of the players that the refs are going to do this kind of (poop), it tends to slow the players decision making down long enough for them to lose and edge to their game.

I don't know what the coaches said to them on the bench and in the locker room between periods after that call and PK, but I would have made it clear that even if the spend they rest of the night in the box for playing that aggressively, it's the right thing to do. I'd also tell them I'd rather it result in a loss with a clear admonishment on the refs than them holding back a little and playing not to lose.

On the other hand, these guys are pros and played enough games to know that they shouldn't let the bad calls dictate the way they play. At least that's the cliche. I still wonder it got into their heads just a little bit, though.

But that's just way I see it and I might not be totally right. There were other obvious factors that led to the loss this time. Such as Samsonov being underrated in this game. He did really tighten up real good after he let Farabee get his fivehole. But there were other reasons, as others have already pointed out.
- Bendecko

Blimey mate.

I go away for a few weeks and Hierogif man starts to turn into Hamlet.

I thing AV has been as AWESOME coach.

Might be time to start talking about Hart having a down year so far and at almost -6 GSAA (Elliot is +3 GSAA) it's been a killer. It's not all him, but he's not erasing team defense mistakes like he was last season. Hopefully he can find his game soon. .
- atibus

And a lot of mid/top shelf goals. Not too often a deflection beats him, or a low hard shot along the ice. It almost seems like his reflexes are too quick, and he ends up over-reacting and getting down a tad too much.

T Its up to Fletcher to decide to either stay patient and look to the future. Knowing his history, I believe it'll be the latter.
- DANCER

Yes.

There was a point in the first half of the game where the Giroux, Voracek and Patrick line had really good pressure going in the offensive zone. Really solid passing. Within this shift, I wanna say Patrick left a drop pass for Giroux on the left half wall and Giroux skates high near the blue line where he could have dropped the puck to Provorov (I believe it was) but decided to hang on to the puck and dumped it into an empty corner where the caps easily picked the puck up and took the play the other way. It was in that moment that I felt that Giroux needs to realize he’s not 26 anymore. There are certain things he can’t get away with anymore. It’s time he Simplifies his game.
- SuperSchennBros

Did you see your man JVR make that no-look behind-the-back pass on the pp? I have never seen JVR play like that. Not even when he was potting 30+ in Toronto.

no
- KINGKENZO

Ok

Blimey mate.

I go away for a few weeks and Hierogif man starts to turn into Hamlet.
- PT21

You can go away for a few few few more weeks (in other words: forever) and we'd all be way much better for it, Asshole.

Is it our system? Our opponents always seem to know where their teammates are and we seem to pass to no one in particular more times than not.
- Bayareaflyer

I think that the opposition know how to get a player behind the D on the back side..the Bruins did it mercilessly on PP and other teams also have spotted something. It is primarily from the circles down to the goal line and slightly behind the goal line. The opposition pass the puck with purpose to create a situation where the Flyers D and low forwards over compensate or leave the net/ are too far adjusted to one side and back doors are open, sometimes front doors

You can go away for a few few few more weeks (in other words: forever) and we'd all be way much better for it, Asshole.
- Bendecko

Double take.

Whats up, buddy? Having a bad day?

Ok
- DrMidnite