So basically the only money coming off the books is the player Seattle picks

4 years wow. How much money are these teams losing now with the pandemic.
- Hockeyislife

No ticket sales, arena concessions, merchandise, parking fees. Plus fewer games played means less advertising. I'd say it's costing them a lot.

Because our socialist (and relatively inefficient) medical system cannot handle high case loads without significant risk of collapse. Hence the additional caution.
- Wildschwein

Fixed for accuracy

I've been to anchor bar and Duffs is better
- Upstate_isles

Both suck, STFU

4 years wow. How much money are these teams losing now with the pandemic.
- Hockeyislife

The cap was supposed to go up 3 to 5 million in 2020 and didn’t due to COVID and was frozen for the next 2 years. Gotta think that’s 5 to maybe 8 million off the cap from 2020 to 2022/23. That huge especially when it came out of nowhere and nobody could plan for it.

The cap was supposed to go up 3 to 5 million in 2020 and didn’t due to COVID and was frozen for the next 2 years. Gotta think that’s 5 to maybe 8 million off the cap from 2020 to 2022/23. That huge especially when it came out of nowhere and nobody could plan for it.
- nyisles7

As we all know, Isles aren’t the only team with the issue of bad contracts. There were rumors before the draft that the league may allow for buyouts or some type of relief for teams to help manage the “frozen” cap and bad contracts. Have to wonder if some type of relief will come to fruition this off-season.

As we all know, Isles aren’t the only team with the issue of bad contracts. There were rumors before the draft that the league may allow for buyouts or some type of relief for teams to help manage the “frozen” cap and bad contracts. Have to wonder if some type of relief will come to fruition this off-season.
- TogaIsles

Under these current conditions I’m shocked they haven’t already. As long as the player doesn’t get hurt on the way out it shouldn’t be an issue with the NHLPA. Clearly I’m biased with my opinion on this but to me it makes zero sense that there isn’t some kind of buyout option even for a player like Ladd who has a “buyout proof” contract. Why the (frank) in the world would Snow sign anyone to a contract like that? Jesus

Under these current conditions I’m shocked they haven’t already. As long as the player doesn’t get hurt on the way out it shouldn’t be an issue with the NHLPA. Clearly I’m biased with my opinion on this but to me it makes zero sense that there isn’t some kind of buyout option even for a player like Ladd who has a “buyout proof” contract. Why the (frank) in the world would Snow sign anyone to a contract like that? Jesus
- Cptmjl

If the cap is not moving the NHL will have to implement this. This contract is the worst in Islanders history Ladd. Yes worse than DiPietro. We can't afford to sign our own players. We cant do anything. Its really sad when your waiting for the expansion draft to get cap relief. Have to enjoy this great run we are on and see if we have the personel to win the cup.

Under these current conditions I’m shocked they haven’t already. As long as the player doesn’t get hurt on the way out it shouldn’t be an issue with the NHLPA. Clearly I’m biased with my opinion on this but to me it makes zero sense that there isn’t some kind of buyout option even for a player like Ladd who has a “buyout proof” contract. Why the (frank) in the world would Snow sign anyone to a contract like that? Jesus
- Cptmjl

Only way the Isles could get a named FA to sign I guess? It's not the same contract but why did Leo and Hickey get 4 year deals? Players seem to like playing for the Isles once they are on the team. The trick has been getting a quality UFA to sign.

Only way the Isles could get a named FA to sign I guess? It's not the same contract but why did Leo and Hickey get 4 year deals? Players seem to like playing for the Isles once they are on the team. The trick has been getting a quality UFA to sign.
- ses111

I’ve beaten the stupidity of hickey’s and Leo’s contracts into the ground and have gotten pumped on here for it. Neither were necessary and we’re paying the price for it now.

I’ve beaten the stupidity of hickey’s and Leo’s contracts into the ground and have gotten pumped on here for it. Neither were necessary and we’re paying the price for it now.
- Cptmjl

No way to justify those contract regardless of the success the last 2 years. Any team willing to give Leo or Hickey more than a year you say thanks very much. Lou seems to know he messed up with Leo and seems to want to dump him on another team.

As we all know, Isles aren’t the only team with the issue of bad contracts. There were rumors before the draft that the league may allow for buyouts or some type of relief for teams to help manage the “frozen” cap and bad contracts. Have to wonder if some type of relief will come to fruition this off-season.
- TogaIsles

Agreed, I think once the pandemic is under control (end of May, June) the league at that point knowing the fans can once again go to the Arenas next season and revenues will increase considerably the league will address the cap and or provide a buyout to help teams deal with their finances. As you said it’s not one team it’s most teams that are under the gun and handcuffed. I think the fans also are frustrated with the situation and it hurts the game because fans get into it more when their team make trades and new signings. It’s been pretty dismal as far as that goes this last year.

Under these current conditions I’m shocked they haven’t already. As long as the player doesn’t get hurt on the way out it shouldn’t be an issue with the NHLPA. Clearly I’m biased with my opinion on this but to me it makes zero sense that there isn’t some kind of buyout option even for a player like Ladd who has a “buyout proof” contract. Why the (frank) in the world would Snow sign anyone to a contract like that? Jesus
- Cptmjl

I wouldn't bank on the NHLPA doing the NHL any favors. They're already not going to be happy, by no fault of the NHL really, that UFA's are going to see significantly lower contracts than they would have and I don't think the PA is going to start making concessions heading into another negotiation in four years. I don't think we're going to see the league throwing teams any bones. Most of the league is affected, so the playing field is really pretty level.

I wouldn't bank on the NHLPA doing the NHL any favors. They're already not going to be happy, by no fault of the NHL really, that UFA's are going to see significantly lower contracts than they would have and I don't think the PA is going to start making concessions heading into another negotiation in four years. I don't think we're going to see the league throwing teams any bones. Most of the league is affected, so the playing field is mostly pretty level.
- eichiefs9

It's hard to feel bad for teams on a lot of these contracts. You have to know the players you have to take a hard line with and the ones you need to pay and overpay.

Agreed, I think once the pandemic is under control (end of May, June) the league at that point knowing the fans can once again go to the Arenas next season and revenues will increase considerably the league will address the cap and or provide a buyout to help teams deal with their finances. As you said it’s not one team it’s most teams that are under the gun and handcuffed. I think the fans also are frustrated with the situation and it hurts the game because fans get into it more when their team make trades and new signings. It’s been pretty dismal as far as that goes this last year.
- nyisles7

Did someone say trades and signing?

It does bring more excitement and interest.

I’ve beaten the stupidity of hickey’s and Leo’s contracts into the ground and have gotten pumped on here for it. Neither were necessary and we’re paying the price for it now.
- Cptmjl

Meh, once again those signings were bad however the pandemic freezing the cap has exaggerated their effect not only on contracts The Islanders have but most teams in the league.

Did someone say trades and signing?

It does bring more excitement and interest.
- ses111

I knew this would pull you away from your work
100%, this off season was the worst in the history of the modern NHL. The league knows this and will address the Cap and or buy out options. If they don’t they are doing a dis service to the game and it’s stock holders, us fans.

I knew this would pull you out from your work
100%, this off season was the worst in the history of the modern NHL. The league knows this and will address the Cap and or buy out options. If they don’t they are doing a dis service to the game and it’s stock holders, us fans.
- nyisles7

Just barely. I had to do a jail break and I have to go back now.

You can like or hate the MLB, NBA, and NFL but those sports have exciting offseasons that the fans love.

I wouldn't bank on the NHLPA doing the NHL any favors. They're already not going to be happy, by no fault of the NHL really, that UFA's are going to see significantly lower contracts than they would have and I don't think the PA is going to start making concessions heading into another negotiation in four years. I don't think we're going to see the league throwing teams any bones. Most of the league is affected, so the playing field is really pretty level.
- eichiefs9

I don’t think it’s perceived the way you’re describing of “throwing teams any bones” but more along the lines of the reality of the current situation. You can’t expect teams to meander through this new landscape there has to be some mutual adjustment to it. Like I said as long as it’s amicable and players aren’t getting hurt on the way out I don’t really see it as owners one upping the players union.

Meh, once again those signings were bad however the pandemic freezing the cap has exaggerated their effect not only on contracts The Islanders have but most teams in the league.
- nyisles7

Of course but this just highlights how (frank)ing stupid those contracts are and were. Not sure how many times I said, “If this team starts performing well we’re going to need that space and it all adds up.” Only to be bludgeoned on here.

Of course but this just highlights how (frank)ing stupid those contracts are and were. Not sure how many times I said, “If this team starts performing well we’re going to need that space and it all adds up.” Only to be bludgeoned on here.
- Cptmjl

Well you have a .889% chance of being correct

Well you have a .889% chance of being correct
- Upstate_isles

That’s a little to high a percentage! This is Cpt not sOrOk4n we are talking about!

I wouldn't bank on the NHLPA doing the NHL any favors. They're already not going to be happy, by no fault of the NHL really, that UFA's are going to see significantly lower contracts than they would have and I don't think the PA is going to start making concessions heading into another negotiation in four years. I don't think we're going to see the league throwing teams any bones. Most of the league is affected, so the playing field is really pretty level.
- eichiefs9

Why would the NHLPA be against some buyouts? The bought out player gets paid and the cap relief will be spent on another player?

Of course but this just highlights how (frank)ing stupid those contracts are and were. Not sure how many times I said, “If this team starts performing well we’re going to need that space and it all adds up.” Only to be bludgeoned on here.
- Cptmjl

You have to hold firm on contracts for players like Leo and Hickey or there will be trouble down the line. It's one thing to have to pay a top 6 player and another to have to pay a bottom pairing player. You have to be able to save money with the bottom 9 when possible.

That’s a little to high a percentage! This is Cpt not sOrOk4n we are talking about!
- nyisles7

Very fair