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Andersen is what he is, a 5M dollar goalie who is amongst the lead leaders in wins, and has given his team a performance that is more than fair value to dollar over the length of his contract in my opinion. He's not the best in the league but he's far better than the worst.

Someone else said it but I feel the same- no goalie will ever be good enough for Leafs fans.
- Cush29

Wins is a very poor statistic to prove a goalie's quality.

Among starting goalies in the league, where would you rank Freddie? Is he, today, a Top 10 guy?

Today @ 10:22 AM ET
You mean the perfect shot right under the bar... Come on Garnie.
- bixll


If that goes in on Freddie the earth explodes in here.

It is from the hash marks at the boards...I posted a link to all the goals.

I don’t see any marshmallows on us.

Im getting triggered

Bye 🤣

Hoping the original "perfect shot" comment was a joke (and if so it's funny) I agree with Garnie (Yes shocking) on the fact it was a complete garbage game winning soft goal that Hutch gave up and the reaction here would be much more, um, "passionate" if it had been given up by Andersen.

I'm got some meetings and stupid work stuff getting in the way of my Hockey Buzz reading today so I too am out for now.

Only slightly triggered here.

Ciao!
- Cush29

I, personally am not triggered at all. And, I am allowed to have my own opinion... So, you 2 can both bite me...

No way, I would do that deal. That's just me..
- bixll

Kerfoot, Liljegren and a turd. That’s it.

Are you a goalie? I ask because the #1 rule of an odd man rush is the goalie takes the shooter, the Defensive player is responsible for taking away the pass. NHL shooters are too good for the goalie to try and worry about the pass - if they do the shooter will expose them and score every single time.

The 2nd part - are you sure you aren't talking about HUTCH?
- Cush29

You're right, the job of the goalie on a 2-1 is to take the shooter and key in on the shooters stick, not the puck.

No one here actually believes Hutch is a better option.. For me, the issue with Freddy is he's too inconsistent.. When he is on his game, he's fantastic, when he is not, he's average... The Leafs need consistency in goal.

Ok, sure but that's not really Foligno anymore.
- PatC80

He would beat the crap out of any player the Leafs have..

He would beat the crap out of any player the Leafs have..
- bixll

Simmonds? Bogosian? Also, that's really not saying much, Leafs are not a bunch of goons.

Simmonds? Bogosian? Also, that's really not saying much, Leafs are not a bunch of goons.
- PatC80

Agreed, however, better than nothing, for the playoffs.

Not sure why the Leafs would want to bring in a small W for a playoff push. Granlund may be defensively responsible (oversold, IMHO - he rarely gets dZone starts) but his possession numbers aren't great and he's not really useful at C at all.
- mjones242

The priority is to get the third line where Dubas thought he had it at the start of the season; someone to play with Mik and Hyman. I really don’t think Dubas is worried about adding more toughness for its own sake, if he was he wouldn’t have started with Kerfoot in that spot. He’ll have Simmonds back.

Anyway I don’t agree that playoffs are won “after the whistles”. If that were the case the Leafs would not have gone to game 7s against much tougher Boston teams. They were a few mental mistakes away from taking those series.

He would beat the crap out of any player the Leafs have..
- bixll

How? They don’t play each other

Simmonds? Bogosian? Also, that's really not saying much, Leafs are not a bunch of goons.
- PatC80

To be fair, neither is Foligno. He rarely takes dumb penalties and is the definition of hustle.

Would love to see him on a line with Simmonds.

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- Atomic Wedgie

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You're right, the job of the goalie on a 2-1 is to take the shooter and key in on the shooters stick, not the puck.

No one here actually believes Hutch is a better option.. For me, the issue with Freddy is he's too inconsistent.. When he is on his game, he's fantastic, when he is not, he's average... The Leafs need consistency in goal.
- PatC80

Mirtle had a really interesting piece in the cost of a few beers a year Athletic on the improvements to the Leaf’s defensive play this year. He points out that shots from and passes to the slot are way down this year as are 2 on 1’s against.

The latter isn’t the result of any particular coaching schemes as much as a mindset change Keefe has hammered into them. As he explains it, players are making the decision to be in the right side of the puck more often. They take fewer chances in the centre ice zone, D don’t pinch as often or if they do, forwards make sure they cover.

They understand that 2 on 1s are not a particular strength of Freddie’s and that they have the offensive capabilities to generate scoring chances without the risks

The priority is to get the third line where Dubas thought he had it at the start of the season; someone to play with Mik and Hyman. I really don’t think Dubas is worried about adding more toughness for its own sake, if he was he wouldn’t have started with Kerfoot in that spot. He’ll have Simmonds back.

Anyway I don’t agree that playoffs are won “after the whistles”. If that were the case the Leafs would not have gone to game 7s against much tougher Boston teams. They were a few mental mistakes away from taking those series.
- Canada Cup

Lest we forget that Granlund is predominantly a W. He flirted with the C position earlier in his career (5ish years ago) but wasn't particularly good at it and isn't suddenly going to fill that role between Soup and Hyman.

No one is suggesting the Leafs add "toughness for its own sake", I'm suggesting the Leafs add toughness because it's a missing ingredient that is demonstrably important in a Cup run.

Imagine the Leafs had more grit than just Nazem Kadri in those playoffs against the Bs? Kadri stepped into that sandpaper role because no one else could fill those qualifications and got himself suspended twice because he lacks hockey IQ and overstepped himself.

I don't buy the mental mistakes narrative. The Leafs play a soft game and their skill took them as far as it could go. A bit more grit and grind and this team goes a lot farther.

Granlund ain't the answer.

Lest we forget that Granlund is predominantly a W. He flirted with the C position earlier in his career (5ish years ago) but wasn't particularly good at it and isn't suddenly going to fill that role between Soup and Hyman.

No one is suggesting the Leafs add "toughness for its own sake", I'm suggesting the Leafs add toughness because it's a missing ingredient that is demonstrably important in a Cup run.

Imagine the Leafs had more grit than just Nazem Kadri in those playoffs against the Bs? Kadri stepped into that sandpaper role because no one else could fill those qualifications and got himself suspended twice because he lacks hockey IQ and overstepped himself.

I don't buy the mental mistakes narrative. The Leafs play a soft game and their skill took them as far as it could go. A bit more grit and grind and this team goes a lot farther.

Granlund ain't the answer.
- mjones242

I not wedded to that particular player (things didn’t work out and he broke it off) but he was mentioned and someone who fills that role makes sense on a rental contract for the right $ and return.

Rumors: Steve Simmons from the Toronto Sun reported that he has heard #CBJ  Nick Foligno’s name keeps popping up in #LeafsForever  rumors. Simmons said a package could include pieces like Alex Kerfoot, Rasmus Sandin, Timothy Liljegren, Nick Robertson or an early draft pick.



Steve Simmons lol
- burn

I don't know what's worse, his opinions in his columns or the "rumors" he reports.

I'd trade exactly nothing he said there for Foligno.

https://twitter.com/JeffV...tatus/1368721114130743296

(frank)ing goof, Marchand.

Lest we forget that Granlund is predominantly a W. He flirted with the C position earlier in his career (5ish years ago) but wasn't particularly good at it and isn't suddenly going to fill that role between Soup and Hyman.

No one is suggesting the Leafs add "toughness for its own sake", I'm suggesting the Leafs add toughness because it's a missing ingredient that is demonstrably important in a Cup run.

Imagine the Leafs had more grit than just Nazem Kadri in those playoffs against the Bs? Kadri stepped into that sandpaper role because no one else could fill those qualifications and got himself suspended twice because he lacks hockey IQ and overstepped himself.

I don't buy the mental mistakes narrative. The Leafs play a soft game and their skill took them as far as it could go. A bit more grit and grind and this team goes a lot farther.

Granlund ain't the answer.
- mjones242

Granlund is a big meh for me, just think there are lots of other better targets.

Granlund is a big meh for me, just think there are lots of other better targets.
- senstroll

I think he is a last resort.

Taylor Hall would be sweet, I assume the price won't be massive as some previously thought.

Lest we forget that Granlund is predominantly a W. He flirted with the C position earlier in his career (5ish years ago) but wasn't particularly good at it and isn't suddenly going to fill that role between Soup and Hyman.

No one is suggesting the Leafs add "toughness for its own sake", I'm suggesting the Leafs add toughness because it's a missing ingredient that is demonstrably important in a Cup run.

Imagine the Leafs had more grit than just Nazem Kadri in those playoffs against the Bs? Kadri stepped into that sandpaper role because no one else could fill those qualifications and got himself suspended twice because he lacks hockey IQ and overstepped himself.

I don't buy the mental mistakes narrative. The Leafs play a soft game and their skill took them as far as it could go. A bit more grit and grind and this team goes a lot farther.

Granlund ain't the answer.
- mjones242

The Leafs have toughness.

They need a guy who can elevate the JT/Nylander line. They need some talent on that wing position.

I don't think we need Savard at this point (off-season acquisition?) but Jenner would be a real nice fit and he has another year left which, apparently, is big for Dubas.

I like Foligno too but would prefer Jenner if the cost isn't ridiculous.
- mjones242

Was thinking this too...but as long as we know whoever they trade for with term they likely have to make a deal with the Kraken to not take him in the expansion draft which adds to the price.

I think he is a last resort.

Taylor Hall would be sweet, I assume the price won't be massive as some previously thought.
- Santo_44

maybe not, some teams dont want to add $$ with the lost revenue.

Hall would be nice add.

maybe not, some teams dont want to add $$ with the lost revenue.

Hall would be nice add.
- senstroll

With the previous interest in Kerfoot there could be something there.

Simmonds mentioned Foligno...although he is spewing bs, he would be a nice add as well.

I think he is a last resort.

Taylor Hall would be sweet, I assume the price won't be massive as some previously thought.
- Santo_44

Seems like wherever that guy goes the team sucks.

He would be able to hide a bit with the leafs. We have enough good players to rag on every game.

The Leafs have toughness.

They need a guy who can elevate the JT/Nylander line. They need some talent on that wing position.
- Santo_44

I agree with that.. Target someone that can play with JT and Nylander.


Assuming full health;
Thornton - Matthews - Marner is your top line.

2nd line is what Vesey? Tavares- Nylander
3rd line is Hyman-Engvall-Mikheyev
4th line is Boyd-Spezza-Simmonds

I agree with that.. Target someone that can play with JT and Nylander.


Assuming full health;
Thornton - Matthews - Marner is your top line.

2nd line is what Vesey? Tavares- Nylander
3rd line is Hyman-Engvall-Mikheyev
4th line is Boyd-Spezza-Simmonds
- PatC80

Hall Tavares nylander would be a pretty good 2nd line.

Which would make kerfoot expendable