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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:00 PM ET
Disagree there is something to think about; not too much. They are going to lose a solid forward more than likely in the ED. It wont be crippling to the team or organization in any way imo. You lose one of Jake JVR "Patty" Oscar or NAK. Protecting 4 d isn't a big deal to me. I do what I can to try to get Seattle to take Jake.

Acquiring a 2/3rd line forward is easier than a top 4 dman. If they acquire a top 4 guy I hope he has term left and can be part of the solution going forward. If it is a rental then I do not overpay and wait to until the summer.

- login

Spot On!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:01 PM ET
It’s days like this (when Bill hasn’t put up a new blog early in the morning) that I immediately think (hope) there is a trade or move coming, and he’s waiting to post.

Wishful thinking, but one can only hope, right?!

- BroadSTmayhem

Funny though he has not posted by now, NHL.com has been updated for a while with is thoughts from last night's game.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:06 PM ET
Cool fact:

Pitlick currently has more goals then both Lindblom and Patrick combined.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:08 PM ET

Maybe Fletcher can pull off two defenseman trades. Ekholm now and another for a top RHD this summer.


....quiet, just let me dream.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:11 PM ET
Maybe Fletcher can pull off two defenseman trades. Ekholm now and another for a top RHD this summer.


....quiet, just let me dream.

- NC Flyers Fan

I say you get Ekholm now, and you trade Nashville Patrick, Myers and a 3rd round pick.

Here is one of the best articles I have read bout Ekholm to the Flyers: https://phillysportsnetwo...tias-ekholm-done-already/
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:18 PM ET
I say you get Ekholm now, and you trade Nashville Patrick, Myers and a 3rd round pick.

Here is one of the best articles I have read bout Ekholm to the Flyers: https://phillysportsnetwo...tias-ekholm-done-already/

- jd250


I rather give Nashville the first. I know everyone has their price, but Myers is an overpay there. Myers is also part of the top 4 plan going forward.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
I say you get Ekholm now, and you trade Nashville Patrick, Myers and a 3rd round pick.
- jd250


You're on drugs.

I rather give Nashville the first. I know everyone has their price, but Myers is an overpay there. Myers is also part of the top 4 plan going forward.
- NC Flyers Fan


Let's trade a top-4 RHD for a top-4 LHD when the need is for another top-4 RHD.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Mar 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
I rather give Nashville the first. I know everyone has their price, but Myers is an overpay there. Myers is also part of the top 4 plan going forward.
- NC Flyers Fan


if you include myers or sanheim in a package you're just creating another hole on defense. for this season anyway. i also don't really like that first trade scenario. frost, a first, and sanheim or myers. seems like a huge overpay.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Mar 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
I say you get Ekholm now, and you trade Nashville Patrick, Myers and a 3rd round pick.

Here is one of the best articles I have read bout Ekholm to the Flyers: https://phillysportsnetwo...tias-ekholm-done-already/

- jd250


Lol.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
You're on drugs.



Let's trade a top-4 RHD for a top-4 LHD when the need is for another top-4 RHD.

- Tomahawk

I think you are taking heavy drugs if you consider what you have watched from Myers this year is a top 4 dman. Maybe on the Flyers, but not on other good teams. Ekholm immediately becomes the best Flyers defenseman if he joins the Flyers.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:40 PM ET
If they start a new rebuild today they can be mediocre again within 5 years!

BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:43 PM ET
If they start a new rebuild today they can be mediocre again within 5 years!


- MrBuzzcut




We are and have been, perhaps, the best mediocre team in the league for some time now!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
if you include myers or sanheim in a package you're just creating another hole on defense. for this season anyway. i also don't really like that first trade scenario. frost, a first, and sanheim or myers. seems like a huge overpay.
- Ftown19125

Yes I agree, the first option was too high of a price. But I do believe the Flyers are going to have to give up something significant to get Ekholm. Right now I am convinced if the Flyers do not make a significant trade, they are missing the playoffs this year.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:46 PM ET
You're on drugs.



Let's trade a top-4 RHD for a top-4 LHD when the need is for another top-4 RHD.

- Tomahawk

I also think this RHD - LHD nonsense is completely overblown.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:48 PM ET
I think you are taking heavy drugs if you consider what you have watched from Myers this year is a top 4 dman. Maybe on the Flyers, but not on other good teams. Ekholm immediately becomes the best Flyers defenseman if he joins the Flyers.
- jd250


I get that you are high on Ekholm and I could maybe be convinced a Ekholm and Myers 2nd pair is an upgrade; however, a team with cup aspirations that headlines Ekholm as their number 1, well...there is no nice way to say it.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
I say you get Ekholm now, and you trade Nashville Patrick, Myers and a 3rd round pick.

Here is one of the best articles I have read bout Ekholm to the Flyers: https://phillysportsnetwo...tias-ekholm-done-already/

- jd250


You realize this article is a joke right? Not Haha funny kind of joke. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. They guy considers Dunn to be a valid option for replacing Niskanen......

Then he goes on about how a package would be a prospect and pick then is dealing roster players like Myers, NoPa, Voracek and/or Sanheim for Ekholm
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
I get that you are high on Ekholm and I could maybe be convinced a Ekholm and Myers 2nd pair is an upgrade; however, a team with cup aspirations that headlines Ekholm as their number 1, well...there is no nice way to say it.
- NC Flyers Fan

Why why why?? Ekholm is a really good defenseman no matter how you look at it. Whether you want to face it or not, Ekholm is a top paring defenseman on any team in this league and adding him would be a huge upgrade the Flyers defenseman. He has good size, great mobility, plays with an edge, eats minutes, plays PK and PP, and can generate offense. I mean why are people on this forum so convinced Ekholm is not a significant upgrade. Someone tell me one fact that demonstrates otherwise!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:56 PM ET
You realize this article is a joke right? Not Haha funny kind of joke. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. They guy considers Dunn to be a valid option for replacing Niskanen......

Then he goes on about how a package would be a prospect and pick then is dealing roster players like Myers, NoPa, Voracek and/or Sanheim for Ekholm

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The article presents trade options, first with prospects and a 1st round pick, second with NHL roster players and a lower draft pick, and a third option to wait until the off season to get Ekholm. This article is well thought out and fact based.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 8 @ 1:05 PM ET
The article presents trade options, first with prospects and a 1st round pick, second with NHL roster players and a lower draft pick, and a third option to wait until the off season to get Ekholm. This article is well thought out and fact based.
- jd250


Yes trading one of our top players at 8 mill per season to a team with little to no Cap space. Well thought out indeed.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 8 @ 1:08 PM ET
BiggE wrote a book.

Go buy it, I did.



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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
Yes trading one of our top players at 8 mill per season to a team with little to no Cap space. Well thought out indeed.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Well, yes, adding Voracek to this deal wouldn't make sense, one little mistake ...
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 8 @ 1:21 PM ET
Why why why?? Ekholm is a really good defenseman no matter how you look at it. Whether you want to face it or not, Ekholm is a top paring defenseman on any team in this league and adding him would be a huge upgrade the Flyers defenseman. He has good size, great mobility, plays with an edge, eats minutes, plays PK and PP, and can generate offense. I mean why are people on this forum so convinced Ekholm is not a significant upgrade. Someone tell me one fact that demonstrates otherwise!
- jd250


I haven’t really watched Ekholm play much. So as such, you might be right. Hopefully, someone who does watch him a lot will comment. He is on Nashville’s 2nd pairing, right? Not currently on the top pairing of the “any” team that is is currently on, huh. Also, if he is at least a NHL no. 2 level defenseman, why would the Flyers bring him on to play out of position. As far as I can find, he has only played right defense briefly. Of course if you think he with Sanheim playing on the right side make a good top pair?Then we have Provy-Myers as a second pairing.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 8 @ 2:01 PM ET
I haven’t really watched Ekholm play much. So as such, you might be right. Hopefully, someone who does watch him a lot will comment. He is on Nashville’s 2nd pairing, right? Not currently on the top pairing of the “any” team that is is currently on, huh. Also, if he is at least a NHL no. 2 level defenseman, why would the Flyers bring him on to play out of position. As far as I can find, he has only played right defense briefly. Of course if you think he with Sanheim playing on the right side make a good top pair?Then we have Provy-Myers as a second pairing.
- NC Flyers Fan

Nashville pairs Roman Josie (LHD) and Ryan Ellis (RHD) as their top pair, and they play roughly 25 minutes a game. Their second pair is Ekholm (LHD) and Dante Fabbro (RHD) and they play about 22 minutes a game. Nashville obviously splits it up this way to get LHD-RHD on each pair, otherwise Ekholm would easily be in the top pair. Ekholm is better than Ryan Ellis and is absolutely a top pairing defenseman! On the Flyers it won't matter which pair is 1 and which pair is 2, because they would play about the same minutes. This would also allow Provorov to play less minutes, which I think is the main reason his game has dropped off this year.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Mar 8 @ 2:06 PM ET
I haven’t really watched Ekholm play much. So as such, you might be right. Hopefully, someone who does watch him a lot will comment. He is on Nashville’s 2nd pairing, right? Not currently on the top pairing of the “any” team that is is currently on, huh. Also, if he is at least a NHL no. 2 level defenseman, why would the Flyers bring him on to play out of position. As far as I can find, he has only played right defense briefly. Of course if you think he with Sanheim playing on the right side make a good top pair?Then we have Provy-Myers as a second pairing.
- NC Flyers Fan


1st pair, 2nd pair... whatever. Who do you want playing against Boston’s big line or OV or Crosby? Right now our answer is Prov and you fill in the blank.. it’s not good enough. Also you kinda have to wonder if what you see is what you get with Sanheim. The Sanheim Myers combo in the bubble playoffs did not really excite me all that much. Then Niskanen plays too many minutes and gets criticized. This team needs mult dmen in their top 4.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Mar 8 @ 2:08 PM ET
Nashville pairs Roman Josie (LHD) and Ryan Ellis (RHD) as their top pair, and they play roughly 25 minutes a game. Their second pair is Ekholm (LHD) and Dante Fabbro (RHD) and they play about 22 minutes a game. Nashville obviously splits it up this way to get LHD-RHD on each pair, otherwise Ekholm would easily be in the top pair. Ekholm is better than Ryan Ellis and is absolutely a top pairing defenseman! On the Flyers it won't matter which pair is 1 and which pair is 2, because they would play about the same minutes. This would also allow Provorov to play less minutes, which I think is the main reason his game has dropped off this year.
- jd250


Agree w all of that. Also think provy could still play 25 mins if paired w the right guy.
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