So Sam Reinhart is available out of Buffalo. Depending on cost he would be a good fit on Devs. Age wise he fits this teams horizon. He can score. Prospect plus a second round pick enough knowing he get a significant raise next year? What do you think?
- redmonsters

How does he do when not playing with eichel?

How does he do when not playing with eichel?
- dmarsden2988

How could he do playing with Nico or Jack? I am too lazy to search those non-Eichel stats....he could basically replace Palms on the right side.

How could he do playing with Nico or Jack? I am too lazy to search those non-Eichel stats....he could basically replace Palms on the right side.
- redmonsters

Maybe work out a trade involving K-Palms if we aren't resigning him. Taylor Ham could put in a good word Kyle....

How could he do playing with Nico or Jack? I am too lazy to search those non-Eichel stats....he could basically replace Palms on the right side.
- redmonsters

He has been a part of that squad for too many soul-less seasons. Hard to say if he is part of the problem, or one of their very few bright spots.

I say sell, sell, sell. Zacha has grown his stock greatly this season, and trading him if we can get a coleman-esque haul is something that must be considered. I don't wan't to be buyers right now. We have a plethora of great young talent itching to crack our lineup, so sell, and look at filling any remaining spots with UFA's this offseason. We have money to spend.

He has been a part of that squad for too many soul-less seasons. Hard to say if he is part of the problem, or one of their very few bright spots.

I say sell, sell, sell. Zacha has grown his stock greatly this season, and trading him if we can get a coleman-esque haul is something that must be considered. I don't wan't to be buyers right now. We have a plethora of great young talent itching to crack our lineup, so sell, and look at filling any remaining spots with UFA's this offseason. We have money to spend.
- bikeguy99

All on board with the "sell" train. But also looking to see if we can get a young scoring RW and "weaponize" our cap to also build. Just an idea.

He has been a part of that squad for too many soul-less seasons. Hard to say if he is part of the problem, or one of their very few bright spots.

I say sell, sell, sell. Zacha has grown his stock greatly this season, and trading him if we can get a coleman-esque haul is something that must be considered. I don't wan't to be buyers right now. We have a plethora of great young talent itching to crack our lineup, so sell, and look at filling any remaining spots with UFA's this offseason. We have money to spend.
- bikeguy99

What great young talent other than holtz and Mercer that could be potential top 6?

I think we should keep Zacha as he is young and on a decent contract, even if he is 3C

We need to be sellers but have to also be smart with it

I really don’t think Reinhardt moves the needle for us.

We're getting into Tyce Thompson watch season, as his college season could be ending in the next week. If Providence doesn't make a miracle run i'd like to see him sign and turn pro and get some games in this season, both in Bingo and a cup of tea with the big club

What great young talent other than holtz and Mercer that could be potential top 6?

I think we should keep Zacha as he is young and on a decent contract, even if he is 3C

We need to be sellers but have to also be smart with it
- dmarsden2988

Totally agree. Considering how few prospects turn into quality NHL players it is a suckers bet to turn legit NHLers into draft picks. Totally get trying to get a return on the guys becoming UFAs but for established NHL talent under contract it seems like gambling.... or buying magic beans....

Nothing against trading Zacha per se while his value is up, but we need to get a legit NHLer back.

I really don’t think Reinhardt moves the needle for us.
- MartysBetter88

If you are moving K-Palms and Pick for him you are getting a similarly production player that's 5 years younger and becoming a RFA vs. UFA. Franchise game changer, no. But it could be a good move.... in this hypothetical I made up in my head. Just saying.

Speaking of stuff going on in my head, Mirco Mueller killing it in the swiss league. We should have given him a shot under Ruff.....

What great young talent other than holtz and Mercer that could be potential top 6?

I think we should keep Zacha as he is young and on a decent contract, even if he is 3C

We need to be sellers but have to also be smart with it
- dmarsden2988

Foote should be ready to make the jump. Janne/Maltsev are sure making a great impression as well. Boq/Sharangovich will be x-factors. And like I said, there is no point giving up assets through trade, especially with the expansion draft around the corner. UFA's will be available and we will be one of the lucky teams with money to spend. So who cares about Zacha's contract being a bargain. It took him 6 seasons to finally pop off with a good one, so if a team is willing to give us a trade similar to Coleman's, bye bye Zacha. You don't turn down what is essentially two 1st rd selections for a 3C. Take the money and run. Lots of UFA's to target in the offseason to fill any voids.

The proposed lottery changes are being reported:
1) Teams limited to no more than 2 lottery wins in a 5 year window.
2) Teams will only be allowed to jump a maximum of 10 spots.
3) The amount of lottery picks reduced from 3 to 2.

The reduction in lottery picks could take place for this upcoming draft but the rest won't start until 2022, and will be a clean slate. So previous lottery wins wont be counted against those teams

So Sam Reinhart is available out of Buffalo. Depending on cost he would be a good fit on Devs. Age wise he fits this teams horizon. He can score. Prospect plus a second round pick enough knowing he get a significant raise next year? What do you think?
- redmonsters

No (frank)ing thanks

I really don’t think Reinhardt moves the needle for us.
- MartysBetter88

Down lower perhaps

Down lower perhaps
- shvingter88

DOOMED.

Foote should be ready to make the jump. Janne/Maltsev are sure making a great impression as well. Boq/Sharangovich will be x-factors. And like I said, there is no point giving up assets through trade, especially with the expansion draft around the corner. UFA's will be available and we will be one of the lucky teams with money to spend. So who cares about Zacha's contract being a bargain. It took him 6 seasons to finally pop off with a good one, so if a team is willing to give us a trade similar to Coleman's, bye bye Zacha. You don't turn down what is essentially two 1st rd selections for a 3C. Take the money and run. Lots of UFA's to target in the offseason to fill any voids.
- bikeguy99

Zacha turns 24 in a month! I think people forget he entered the league as an 18 year old. Not everyone is a McDavid or Matthews putting up points in theirs first year!! In comparison, I think its safe to say Sean Couturier is a pretty good player right? Well guess what, he was never over 0.5 points per game until he was 24 years old... and he is just one example (I used him as I think they have a pretty similar style of play). I think Zacha was like 0.49 points per game in his year 23 season as well.
Look how many 1st rounders become absolutely nothing... and we have a decent player who is still young and getting better

Foote should be ready to make the jump. Janne/Maltsev are sure making a great impression as well. Boq/Sharangovich will be x-factors. And like I said, there is no point giving up assets through trade, especially with the expansion draft around the corner. UFA's will be available and we will be one of the lucky teams with money to spend. So who cares about Zacha's contract being a bargain. It took him 6 seasons to finally pop off with a good one, so if a team is willing to give us a trade similar to Coleman's, bye bye Zacha. You don't turn down what is essentially two 1st rd selections for a 3C. Take the money and run. Lots of UFA's to target in the offseason to fill any voids.
- bikeguy99

Blake Coleman put up better then 20 goals the last two season. He had 21 in 57 games last season before we traded him. He was an outstanding shorthanded scorer, defensively responsible, PK machine with a ton of grit and drive. He had a different skills set then Zacha. We were all blown away by the return we got for Blake and Tampa overpaid because they were confident he was the type of player they were missing for the playoffs. Thinking we are getting similar to that for Pavel Zacha seems very unlikely.

Resign Palmieri

Trade some vets now :Gusev ,Vats , and Zajac now.... get players not picks .

Sign a huge free agent ( its time ) . MAYBE D MAN STILL .

Hughes and NICO need help. OFF SEASON

Zacha turns 24 in a month! I think people forget he entered the league as an 18 year old - bc8819

How can people forget what didn't happen,

Blake Coleman put up better then 20 goals the last two season. He had 21 in 57 games last season before we traded him. He was an outstanding shorthanded scorer, defensively responsible, PK machine with a ton of grit and drive. He had a different skills set then Zacha. We were all blown away by the return we got for Blake and Tampa overpaid because they were confident he was the type of player they were missing for the playoffs. Thinking we are getting similar to that for Pavel Zacha seems very unlikely.
- Queenie_5_hole

Yes. But also no. Nobody has cap space. Maybe we don't get draft picks, but we can easily target a better player. I've circled him a dozen times because I think it could work for both teams, but Alex Tuch would be a perfect 1-for-1 deal. Vegas has zero space in the cap, and can't even afford a good rental player at the deadline without shedding some serious cap. We could retain some cap and send them Zacha for this season, and next at 1.25M AAV. Since they have Stone and Smith already playing RW, it seems the best place to shed some cap is that RW, and this move would save them 4M AAV. Tuch is the big RW sniper that this team needs desperately. His contract is more than fair and runs right through his prime years. He's got 12 goals already, and with Vegas being forced to ditch Statsny, they really need that depth at C back.

Seems like the perfect match to me.

How can people forget what didn't happen,
- cu45161

Exactly!!!! He put up 24 points every season until now it seems. Even in his draft year, he was the only single OHL player with under 1ppg, including D. He has never shown an offensive presence until just now, so to assume it will last the rest of his career is wishful thinking in my opinion. Happy to see him having success now, but always happy when we sell while their values are high.

While it's true that Zacha got drafted then played a 2nd season in the OHL it doesn't mean he isn't right about Zacha being a serviceable player that this fan base has absolutely poop on. Just because his draft positions was probably too high isn't personally his fault. It has to do with the Devils being a horrible drafting and prospect development team.

I think people saying we should trade him while his stock is up are crazy. He is still young and developing and maybe his ceiling is only 3rd line center but you need players like that on your team. Also, he looked great playing wing before Hischier got injured so maybe that is where he should have been playing all along. At worst he is a quality defensive center and at best he can be an offensive threat if utilized correctly. It's not like the middling draft pick we'd get in return for him has a much higher chance of NHL success.

While it's true that Zacha got drafted then played a 2nd season in the OHL it doesn't mean he isn't right about Zacha being a serviceable player that this fan base has absolutely poop on. Just because his draft positions was probably too high isn't personally his fault. It has to do with the Devils being a horrible drafting and prospect development team.

I think people saying we should trade him while his stock is up are crazy. He is still young and developing and maybe his ceiling is only 3rd line center but you need players like that on your team. Also, he looked great playing wing before Hischier got injured so maybe that is where he should have been playing all along. At worst he is a quality defensive center and at best he can be an offensive threat if utilized correctly. It's not like the middling draft pick we'd get in return for him has a much higher chance of NHL success.
- Pomegrant

I agree he is a full time, serviceable NHL'er. Never said he wasn't. Great PK guy, and has a very well rounded skill set. But his career high is still just 32 points as he is in his 6th season. You'd sooner retain him as a 3C then trade him for a potential 1st or guy like Alex Tuch?

Our past 1st rounders of Mercer/Shak/Holtz all look like studs, and Smith certainly did not disappoint at 17th overall. So ya, I would move him for a chance at one of those guys. We already have Sharangovich knocking at the door for the 3C role. If not free agency can find good defensive centres that put up 25 points per season.

I agree he is a full time, serviceable NHL'er. Never said he wasn't. Great PK guy, and has a very well rounded skill set. But his career high is still just 32 points as he is in his 6th season. You'd sooner retain him as a 3C then trade him for a potential 1st or guy like Alex Tuch?

Our past 1st rounders of Mercer/Shak/Holtz all look like studs, and Smith certainly did not disappoint at 17th overall. So ya, I would move him for a chance at one of those guys. We already have Sharangovich knocking at the door for the 3C role. If not free agency can find good defensive centres that put up 25 points per season.
- bikeguy99

Zacha isn't going to recoup assets of those quality. At best you're going to get a middling draft pick (late 2nd/early 3rd) or somebody else's failed prospect in a scenery swap.

I don't have the data on hand but the fail rate of first round picks becoming every day NHL players is pretty high. I think we should be happy with Zacha and retain.

Yes. But also no. Nobody has cap space. Maybe we don't get draft picks, but we can easily target a better player. I've circled him a dozen times because I think it could work for both teams, but Alex Tuch would be a perfect 1-for-1 deal. Vegas has zero space in the cap, and can't even afford a good rental player at the deadline without shedding some serious cap. We could retain some cap and send them Zacha for this season, and next at 1.25M AAV. Since they have Stone and Smith already playing RW, it seems the best place to shed some cap is that RW, and this move would save them 4M AAV. Tuch is the big RW sniper that this team needs desperately. His contract is more than fair and runs right through his prime years. He's got 12 goals already, and with Vegas being forced to ditch Statsny, they really need that depth at C back.

Seems like the perfect match to me.
- bikeguy99

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These are all hypothetical in a very unusual season. So who knows what could happen. So with that caveat, IF Fitzy can work out a killer deal including Zacha then I have no problem with moving him. I'm just doubtful it'll happen. BUT I'm wrong plenty. Your scenario of trading for established NHLer makes a lot more sense then moving him for prospects.