Adams really needs to blow that thing up and start over, some great young pieces there they could use to expedite things. Get the rotten attitudes out and start over.
- Pacificgem

Benning got the process right in finding players to help the youngsters grow into the game. Plus drafting well has helped.

I probably wouldn't go with blow up but definitely finding a way to get some things that would help the team in another 2-3 years.

Trading Hall, Staal, Montour, Eakin, Mittelstadt. Basically allow for a 1/3 of the roster to be revamped next season.

Don't trade for pouty individuals next season either

There’s people who are ok with what’s happening, people who on the fence and people who’ve had enough....at the end of the day we all want the organization to be successful.

I’m outspoken about my dislike for Benning, have been for a long time, if someone shares that opinion they just share that opinion. If you and other chose to defend the process you guys are the gloryholers, by definition, lol, or as an adult would say, you’re just some random guys who share the same opinions
- Pacificgem

It doesn't bother me that you dislike him and the same as me sticking up for him should not matter.

Have you ever said to anyone here lets go to this thread and cause poop?

I don't need to call out names of the gang. They will come in and defend themselves even though I have not mentioned their name.

I honestly don't understand the ganging up of Nuck Up . I don't honestly give a flying fuk if he was Nuk4U or Marry Poppins on his last namesake.

I could not give a rats ass if Mister Brown was Kaptaan with his last ID .

I didn't see a need for people to gang up on Dragon.

If Booner comes in here and gets in it with you then within 5 minutes there are three others attacking him.

Always the same or part of the same group that gang up .

It doesn't bother me that you dislike him and the same as me sticking up for him should not matter.

Have you ever said to anyone here lets go to this thread and cause poop?

I don't need to call out names of the gang. They will come in and defend themselves even though I have not mentioned their name.

I honestly don't understand the ganging up of Nuck Up . I don't honestly give a flying fuk if he was Nuk4U or Marry Poppins on his last namesake.

I could not give a rats ass if Mister Brown was Kaptaan with his last ID .

I didn't see a need for people to gang up on Dragon.

If Booner comes in here and gets in it with you then within 5 minutes there are three others attacking him.

Always the same or part of the same group that gang up .
- VANTEL

I never had an issue with Dragon.

It doesn't bother me that you dislike him and the same as me sticking up for him should not matter.

Have you ever said to anyone here lets go to this thread and cause poop?

I don't need to call out names of the gang. They will come in and defend themselves even though I have not mentioned their name.

I honestly don't understand the ganging up of Nuck Up . I don't honestly give a flying fuk if he was Nuk4U or Marry Poppins on his last namesake.

I could not give a rats ass if Mister Brown was Kaptaan with his last ID .

I didn't see a need for people to gang up on Dragon.

If Booner comes in here and gets in it with you then within 5 minutes there are three others attacking him.

Always the same or part of the same group that gang up .
- VANTEL

I never had an issue with Dragon.
- VanHockeyGuy

This is what I am saying. I never mentioned your name and you are here defending yourself.

I have told you before I like you and you are are another one that I like giving the gears to.

This is what I am saying. I never mentioned your name and you are here defending yourself.

I have told you before I like you and you are are another one that I like giving the gears to.
- VANTEL

I'm not defending myself?

I know I'm an asshole.

I never had an issue with Dragon.
- VanHockeyGuy

Canucks been slaying dragons as the season goes on. Winning games in WPG. Beating the TML in early games. Scoring against Markstrom. Montreal is up next. A better showing vs them could go a long ways for the teams confidence and wrecking their chance at another high draft pick.

Can't forget not giving up a goal on the first shot and even last night a come from behind victory.

I'm not defending myself?

I know I'm an asshole.
- VanHockeyGuy

We all do


I think you know and I know we like pushing each other and most of the time it is fun. I don't get offeneded

It doesn't bother me that you dislike him and the same as me sticking up for him should not matter.

Have you ever said to anyone here lets go to this thread and cause poop?

I don't need to call out names of the gang. They will come in and defend themselves even though I have not mentioned their name.

I honestly don't understand the ganging up of Nuck Up . I don't honestly give a flying fuk if he was Nuk4U or Marry Poppins on his last namesake.

I could not give a rats ass if Mister Brown was Kaptaan with his last ID .

I didn't see a need for people to gang up on Dragon.

If Booner comes in here and gets in it with you then within 5 minutes there are three others attacking him.

Always the same or part of the same group that gang up .
- VANTEL

Vantel, it works both ways, random internet people don’t care for an internet persona. There’s a group of people who don’t like or share my opinions, yourself included, I’ve never said you’re all a gang, come on, that’s childish. You just see things differently than me, whatever, so be it.

Booner, Vantel, Mini, VGH, Marwood, Makita, etc. have all gone after me at some point, I probably deserved it because I poke the proverbial bear all to often. It’s cyclical, sometimes things are cosher, sometimes they’re not.

Vantel, it works both ways, random internet people don’t care for an internet persona. There’s a group of people who don’t like or share my opinions, yourself included, I’ve never said you’re all a gang, come on, that’s childish. You just see things differently than me, whatever, so be it.

Booner, Vantel, Mini, VGH, Marwood, Makita, etc. have all gone after me at some point, I probably deserved it because I poke the proverbial bear all to often. It’s cyclical, sometimes things are cosher, sometimes they’re not.
- Pacificgem

You couldn't be more wrong . You are one of the guys I like talking to most


Even if it gets heated we are back at it the next day.

Edit: We seldom agree but it does get busy in here

Benning got the process right in finding players to help the youngsters grow into the game. Plus drafting well has helped.

I probably wouldn't go with blow up but definitely finding a way to get some things that would help the team in another 2-3 years.

Trading Hall, Staal, Montour, Eakin, Mittelstadt. Basically allow for a 1/3 of the roster to be revamped next season.

Don't trade for pouty individuals next season either
- manvanfan

Agree, kids need insulating, which Benning did nicely in the beginning, however, he overcommitted to that process. Which is now biting us in the ass.

Honestly I would trade Eichel along with Hall and Staal and start fresh. Eichel doesn’t seem to be happy anyways. Get a boatload and start over.

Vantel, it works both ways, random internet people don’t care for an internet persona. There’s a group of people who don’t like or share my opinions, yourself included, I’ve never said you’re all a gang, come on, that’s childish. You just see things differently than me, whatever, so be it.

Booner, Vantel, Mini, VGH, Marwood, Makita, etc. have all gone after me at some point, I probably deserved it because I poke the proverbial bear all to often. It’s cyclical, sometimes things are cosher, sometimes they’re not.
- Pacificgem

My co-worker who used to be on this site, he has a completely different view on the team then I do. He always gets so mad during our conversations because according to him "I won't acknowledge any wrong doings by Benning".

Which is not true at all. I know Benning has done a lot of wrong but I'm not focusing on what he has done wrong because at this point, it really hasn't hampered the organization to any significance.

I see into the future and it's a hell of a lot brighter than the past was.

You couldn't be more wrong . You are one of the guys I like talking to most


Even if it gets heated we are back at it the next day,
- VANTEL

Like I said, just because we agree sometimes or disagree others doesn’t mean anything. I enjoy debating with you and the others. Marwood hated my takes at one point but now we agree on Benning, he still thinks I’m an idiot though

Like I said, just because we agree sometimes or disagree others doesn’t mean anything. I enjoy debating with you and the others. Marwood hated my takes at one point but now we agree on Benning, he still thinks I’m an idiot though
- Pacificgem

Newsflash : Marwood hates everything

We all do


I think you know and I know we like pushing each other and most of the time it is fun. I don't get offeneded
- VANTEL

Nope, I've actually been making an effort to tone it down. Then the hillbilly comes out with something stupid. It's a vicious cycle.

My co-worker who used to be on this site, he has a completely different view on the team then I do. He always gets so mad during our conversations because according to him "I won't acknowledge any wrong doings by Benning".

Which is not true at all. I know Benning has done a lot of wrong but I'm not focusing on what he has done wrong because at this point, it really hasn't hampered the organization to any significance.

I see into the future and it's a hell of a lot brighter than the past was.
- manvanfan

I’ve said both positive and negative things on Benning, at this point after seven years I’m ready for a change though, I’ve had enough of his stupidity.

That said, you’re 100% correct, all the losing has brought in some great draft picks, something Benning has clearly been good at.

Agree, kids need insulating, which Benning did nicely in the beginning, however, he overcommitted to that process. Which is now biting us in the ass.

Honestly I would trade Eichel along with Hall and Staal and start fresh. Eichel doesn’t seem to be happy anyways. Get a boatload and start over.
- Pacificgem

Too many see things in the black and white though. If Benning doesn't overcommit then maybe the kids are to do without and learn on their own. Not to mention the lesser compliment players are thrust into the line up sooner as well and don't get time to develop properly.

Development isn't linear so planning things 3-4 in advance is damn near impossible.

Why would Jack be happy, all he has ever done is lose? What they need to do is find a way to make the team at least respectable on the ice nightly.

Like I said, just because we agree sometimes or disagree others doesn’t mean anything. I enjoy debating with you and the others. Marwood hated my takes at one point but now we agree on Benning, he still thinks I’m an idiot though
- Pacificgem

No he doesn't. He's always enjoyed bantering with you. We don't always agree on everything but we both agree that Benning is an idiot.

My co-worker who used to be on this site, he has a completely different view on the team then I do. He always gets so mad during our conversations because according to him "I won't acknowledge any wrong doings by Benning".

Which is not true at all. I know Benning has done a lot of wrong but I'm not focusing on what he has done wrong because at this point, it really hasn't hampered the organization to any significance.

I see into the future and it's a hell of a lot brighter than the past was.
- manvanfan

We all seen what he has done. I hated the Eriksson signing and Sven .

Some of his deals piss people off. Most everyone said Sutter is useless and today they are saying he is a good shut down guy trade for a second

Roussels career ends and they bring in a replacement that is similar Lind.

I’ve said both positive and negative things on Benning, at this point after seven years I’m ready for a change though, I’ve had enough of his stupidity.

That said, you’re 100% correct, all the losing has brought in some great draft picks, something Benning has clearly been good at.
- Pacificgem

Yzerman had 9 years at the helm of the lightning.

Benning will never be un fireable to me, he just has to make the right moves for the future of the club.

Nope, I've actually been making an effort to tone it down. Then the hillbilly comes out with something stupid. It's a vicious cycle.
- VanHockeyGuy

You guys are funny ( Lordy and you). Vintsy and Lordy are fun too. I know he likes you guys . He gets a kick out of it.

Yzerman had 9 years at the helm of the lightning.

Benning will never be un fireable to me, he just has to make the right moves for the future of the club.
- manvanfan

Francesco has been on Twitter two games in a row giving praises.

Too many see things in the black and white though. If Benning doesn't overcommit then maybe the kids are to do without and learn on their own. Not to mention the lesser compliment players are thrust into the line up sooner as well and don't get time to develop properly.

Development isn't linear so planning things 3-4 in advance is damn near impossible.

Why would Jack be happy, all he has ever done is lose? What they need to do is find a way to make the team at least respectable on the ice nightly.
- manvanfan

I’m sure he’s sick of losing, but he’s been in the league five years, he needs to STFU and work hard. Stop whining and play.

Not many guys come into the league as a second overall pick and start winning immediately. I’ve said this before, took Sakic eight seasons to win a Cup, seven to just make the playoffs I think. Mario Lemieux won in his seventh year.

Kids are so entitled, they want everything right now these days. Things are bad in Buffalo like they were for the Nordiques for years, with the right manager I’m sure they’ll get better.

I never had an issue with Dragon.
- VanHockeyGuy

Me too, I enjoyed the discussions I had with him. He was pretty observant.

No he doesn't. He's always enjoyed bantering with you. We don't always agree on everything but we both agree that Benning is an idiot.
- Marwood

Yes we do