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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
Geno with 7 points in his last 8.
- j.boyd919


Definitely playing better.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
stop criticizing the Flyers powerplay.. they're trying their very bes... oh.. wait.. nevermind.
- Doc_Sarcasm


That was good. Had me fooled for a second.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Mar 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
Faceoffs 41-22
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Mar 6 @ 3:33 PM ET
Every time Tanev ends up top six good things happen.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 6 @ 3:36 PM ET
LOL at anyone who thought ERod was an upgrade of any kind to this lineup.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 6 @ 3:37 PM ET
LOL at anyone who thought ERod was an upgrade of any kind to this lineup.
- Rinosaur


That post was as Erod as it gets haha
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 6 @ 3:38 PM ET
That post was as Erod as it gets haha
- 10inchTerror


He's equally as hot garbage as Jank.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:39 PM ET
4 of 6 points. No loser points. Not bad.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 6 @ 3:40 PM ET
He's equally as hot garbage as Jank.
- Rinosaur


I mean the 4th line is trash. Might as well try out any healthy body that hasn’t tried yet. Send them all to wbs and try out some ppl down there.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Mar 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
Hell yeah!
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 4:01 PM ET
I'm going with-we aren't trading Dumoulin anytime soon.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Mar 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
That was good. Had me fooled for a second.
- Thunderbolt



your comment was almost exactly what my criticism of the Flyers PP is. i couldnt resist the funny. so many hard-arounds and dumps into the corners with no one in position to maintain possession and just a flat, emotionless effort.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 6 @ 4:25 PM ET
What about Skinner (with salary retained) or E.Staal for Pettersson/Sceviour?
- Barnaby36


Would rather take Lucic over Skinner if we are trading for players with a bigger cap hit in hope they play better here. I wouldn't mind Staal. I think Skinner would add to the problem of us having too many smaller quicker players with no net front power forward type players to complement their play.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Mar 6 @ 4:26 PM ET
Faceoffs 41-22
- Hockey66


Glendening would help that.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Mar 6 @ 4:30 PM ET
LOL at anyone who thought ERod was an upgrade of any kind to this lineup.
- Rinosaur

Says the Simon guy.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 6 @ 4:48 PM ET
Says the Simon guy.
- Grinder47


You mean the guy who helped drive offense when he was here? Then yup.

Don't you have a Lucic poster to go jack off to?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 6 @ 5:08 PM ET
Get Lafferty the hell out of here. He's bum. Dude makes constant bad decisions.
- madmike71

Sully always seems to give him a lot of rope, but Lafferty only got 3 and a half minutes so maybe he'll be out next game.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 6 @ 5:28 PM ET
I question whether he is a #4. That is his ceiling, though. Still not worth $4M.
- Hockey66

A number 4 actually is worth 4M.

I’m not educated enough in this to fairly evaluate someone’s worth. IMO 4m if you are a play driving and decent point producing 2nd pair Dman. He is a passenger who offers nothing special. No grit, strength, net clearing, shooting, etc . He shouldn’t be in the same pay bracket as Marino or dumo, yet I’m sure there are plenty worse Dmen that make more money that therefor could be argued he easily deserves his paycheque. Prices were just going up and up now with the flat cap they are coming down. Obviously petts got a contract on hopeful future production.
- 10inchTerror

Dumoulin has definitely been worth more than 4M. That's why teams give so many young defensemen 4M on long-term second NHL contracts. If they are a solid top 4 you got your money's worth. If they do better, you got excess value.

With Marino, I think you have a good shot at winning that bet and getting excess a value and feels pretty safe you'll at least get 4M worth.

Can Pettersson be a solid #4 and live up to his contract? I think so, but he's gone a bit backwards this year instead of improve. I agree with the mostly vanilla. The one thing I like is he's played well with guys like JJ and Gudbranson, something you have to do as a 4 when injuries hit and my big complaint about Maatta who fell apart without a good partner.

But when you don't have the upside to go beyond a #4, you should just get a bridge deal. Vic is right, you really don't want to pay those mid roster guys market value unless you really can't fill that hole any other way. #4 LHD isn't the hardest thing to get and a guy like POJ might be ready for that spot a year from now.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 6 @ 5:58 PM ET
Wow... I've never missed a game due to thinking it started at a different time before haha. I thought the game was tonight... all week I thought it was tonight Haha. Well they won in regulation and I had an awesome day outside hiking and sliding with little guy. Double win.

What time did it it start, anyway?... Now that its done the start time isn't on scoreboards.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
LOL at anyone who thought ERod was an upgrade of any kind to this lineup.
- Rinosaur


LOL at anyone who doesn't take into consideration a player is returning for their first game in a month and a half, after only playing 5.5 games to begin with and after an offseason loads of other players around the league have struggled with.

ERod is sh!t haha.. Just not quite as sh!tty as most of what we've been seeing deployed on 4th line for weeks now.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Mar 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
A number 4 actually is worth 4M.


Dumoulin has definitely been worth more than 4M. That's why teams give so many young defensemen 4M on long-term second NHL contracts. If they are a solid top 4 you got your money's worth. If they do better, you got excess value.

With Marino, I think you have a good shot at winning that bet and getting excess a value and feels pretty safe you'll at least get 4M worth.

Can Pettersson be a solid #4 and live up to his contract? I think so, but he's gone a bit backwards this year instead of improve. I agree with the mostly vanilla. The one thing I like is he's played well with guys like JJ and Gudbranson, something you have to do as a 4 when injuries hit and my big complaint about Maatta who fell apart without a good partner.

But when you don't have the upside to go beyond a #4, you should just get a bridge deal. Vic is right, you really don't want to pay those mid roster guys market value unless you really can't fill that hole any other way. #4 LHD isn't the hardest thing to get and a guy like POJ might be ready for that spot a year from now.

- Tojo.

This is why I don't think a #4 is worth $4M.

POJ and Riikola can approximate what Petts is doing (or not doing) for around league minimum. Sure, if you get a stud bona fide top 4, then pay him $4M+.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Mar 6 @ 6:06 PM ET
Glendening would help that.
- pens4life-66

That would be good. Ended up 44-24. That's not good, especially come playoff time at the end of the game.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
That would be good. Ended up 44-24. That's not good, especially come playoff time at the end of the game.
- Hockey66


That's pretty bad haha
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 6 @ 6:25 PM ET
It’s pretty obvious Pettersson has to go. Trade for anything (pick or attached to some other player). We now have PO Joseph who clearly has a better ceiling not to mention the good addition of Friedman and Riikola on the roster.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 6 @ 6:26 PM ET
Would rather take Lucic over Skinner if we are trading for players with a bigger cap hit in hope they play better here. I wouldn't mind Staal. I think Skinner would add to the problem of us having too many smaller quicker players with no net front power forward type players to complement their play.
- 123Kid

Honestly I wouldn’t be against bringing Lucic for the 4th line. The guy can scrap and hit.
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