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RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 1:03 PM ET
“Hard work beats talent until talent works hard” and up until now Tre’s done a great job of acquiring talent/retaining it at a bargain but that talent just hasn’t seemed to want to work hard. Behind sutter this team could very well go down in flames but he’s also got to be one of the better options for pushing his players and establishing work ethic. This is about as close to a Hail Mary as this team can get cause if we went with some other soft “yes man” we would be committing to the same mediocrity we were in in the late 2000’s and that we are stuck in now.

I’m not saying I don’t think we should get a new set of eyes on this as we’ve been plateauing for a few years now but can anyone here name me one available option with a better track record? If not I’d rather keep Tre than bring someone in that will make this team even worse. Sure he hasn’t been the best but considering this team has actually selected in the top 10 only 3 times in the past decade and we have the talent that we do makes me laugh that people consider him among the worst in the league. It’s not like the lindholm, andersson, and Gaudreau contracts aren’t some of the best in the league and somehow we won both Hamilton trades. Just look to Vancouver and be thankful we aren’t stuck in a nightmare like that. For every Tre there’s a hundred feasters
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Mar 6 @ 1:28 PM ET
Good interview with Tre and Sutter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GXdwSERujY
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Mar 6 @ 1:29 PM ET
Encouraged by what's going on with Stockton (Rizicka especially) and cant help but wonder if his development may not make Mony expendable to bring in RW help?
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:39 PM ET
It's kind of gross how everyone, myself included, has already forgotten about the allegations made against Sutter a couple of years ago. If he was actively coaching when the allegations were made, everyone would still hate him.

Carcillo didn't forget.

Darryl is a bad human being. I believe that from all of my interactions with him and from what I saw him do to teammates. He didn't get rehabilitated. I definitely know that Darryl didn't step away and get rehabilitated in any way, shape or form. And now he's stepping back. And that's ... how hockey culture works. They stand by these guys that they hold in high regard despite their behavior. That's the epitome of the problem.

Was a 62-year-old cattle farmer with abuse allegations really the best option? Especially for a team that forced a coach to resign over abuse allegations just over a year ago.

- Hunkulese



Give it a rest...you’re probably on the wagon of Disney getting rid of Peter Pan, dumbo and lady and the tramp too. So sick of this b!tch and whine society were creating...I’m sure all bases were covered. What were the allegations anyways? Who’s feelings did he hurt?

Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Mar 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
Encouraged by what's going on with Stockton (Rizicka especially) and cant help but wonder if his development may not make Mony expendable to bring in RW help?
- DEDDIE


Ruzicka is a left shot LW.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Mar 6 @ 1:46 PM ET
Give it a rest...you’re probably on the wagon of Disney getting rid of Peter Pan, dumbo and lady and the tramp too. So sick of this b!tch and whine society were creating...I’m sure all bases were covered. What were the allegations anyways? Who’s feelings did he hurt?
- jessehub


he's a manipulative little b*tch - nobody should care what hunkulese has to say
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Mar 6 @ 1:48 PM ET
Give it a rest...you’re probably on the wagon of Disney getting rid of Peter Pan, dumbo and lady and the tramp too. So sick of this b!tch and whine society were creating...I’m sure all bases were covered. What were the allegations anyways? Who’s feelings did he hurt?
- jessehub

Carcillo. Lol
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
Carcillo. Lol
- Chuckywhip


Oh shocker, what did he do?
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Mar 6 @ 2:01 PM ET
Ruzicka is a left shot LW.
- fry


Good thing. LW is an organizational need.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 2:17 PM ET
Ruzicka is a left shot LW.
- fry


He played C in junior and has been playing C between zary and Phillips to start the year. I would like to see them both flank Ryan on the 4th line at some point this year if they bring them in but I believe that with a lack of strong C prospects and an abundance of LW it would likely be in the flames best interest to keep him at C
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
Carcillo. Lol
- Chuckywhip


Carcillo probably thinks sutter’s a Richard which is fair enough, lots of people I’ve met that I don’t like. But if the allegations had any merit he probably would have tweeted something about the hiring especially considering he’s already brought it up there’s nothing to lose by doing it again now.
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Mar 6 @ 2:49 PM ET
Oh shocker, what did he do?
- jessehub

He said Sutter kicked him and yelled at a player with a concussion.
Misterbator
Calgary Flames
Location: Monkeytown, NB
Joined: 10.13.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:42 PM ET
Yeah, no thanks
- Buff36

Exactly.
Misterbator
Calgary Flames
Location: Monkeytown, NB
Joined: 10.13.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:43 PM ET
You don’t think that was looked into? You prove you’re still a donkey!

- Chuckywhip

Why am I agreeing with you so much lately? I don't care what they say about you, you are alright in my books
Misterbator
Calgary Flames
Location: Monkeytown, NB
Joined: 10.13.2014

Mar 6 @ 4:10 PM ET
“Hard work beats talent until talent works hard” and up until now Tre’s done a great job of acquiring talent/retaining it at a bargain but that talent just hasn’t seemed to want to work hard. Behind sutter this team could very well go down in flames but he’s also got to be one of the better options for pushing his players and establishing work ethic. This is about as close to a Hail Mary as this team can get cause if we went with some other soft “yes man” we would be committing to the same mediocrity we were in in the late 2000’s and that we are stuck in now.

I’m not saying I don’t think we should get a new set of eyes on this as we’ve been plateauing for a few years now but can anyone here name me one available option with a better track record? If not I’d rather keep Tre than bring someone in that will make this team even worse. Sure he hasn’t been the best but considering this team has actually selected in the top 10 only 3 times in the past decade and we have the talent that we do makes me laugh that people consider him among the worst in the league. It’s not like the lindholm, andersson, and Gaudreau contracts aren’t some of the best in the league and somehow we won both Hamilton trades. Just look to Vancouver and be thankful we aren’t stuck in a nightmare like that. For every Tre there’s a hundred feasters

- RedC21


I think you are bang on here. Sutter's record is second to none right now. He has the hardware to prove it, and ironically the best coach we hired since we hired...er...him?

I agree that Treliving has mostly done well in managing our club. He's carved out some good acquisitions in all areas, not perfect but a lot better than a good chunk of guys running teams. I know I have personally called for his head to be chopped, but after bringing Darryl back, I think he deserves some credit. He's never afraid to make bold moves.

I think we as fans sometimes forget how challenging it is to build a winner, especially now that Covid-19 has turned everything upside-down. I can't even fathom the unpredictable effects it has had on everything from the market itself to how players are performing. All that being said, it will be interesting to see how the team reacts to their new coach and pretty cool to see him behind our bench once again.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Mar 6 @ 5:40 PM ET
Huskas making his coaching debut. Dubes former junior coach

DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Mar 6 @ 5:41 PM ET
Ruzicka is a left shot LW.
- fry


Listed on the Heat website as a C, currently playing C, played C in the OHL.
I understand that AHL success does not necessarily translate to NHL success but just saying i'm encouraged by his and the Heats start!
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Mar 6 @ 6:24 PM ET
Why am I agreeing with you so much lately? I don't care what they say about you, you are alright in my books
- Misterbator

Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

Mar 6 @ 6:54 PM ET
I suspect Sutter was chosen for a few significant reasons.

1. Availability: He is available and willing to take the job.
2. Chemistry: He is capable of augmenting team chemistry. Poor leadership candidates likely wont be respected as leaders by Sutter.
3. Disciple: This flames squad has developed a reputation among officials as a bunch of delinquent whiners. Sutter will not approve of the nonsense. This team needs a tough, demanding coach.
4. Structure: I have no clue what system the Flames playing under Ward. I am confident this will not be the case under Sutter. Structured play will be demanded.
5 Respect: Sutter has won two cups and will demand the respect he is deserved.

While Sutter is far from the best coach, he is the type of coach needed by a team like the Flames. He accepted a tough job, is familiar with the team, will demand discipline, structure and accountability. If the Flames find traction and make the playoffs, Habs players, while shining their golf clubs early, will reflect on the promotion of Ducharme and wish they had played for Sutter instead.
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM ET
I suspect Sutter was chosen for a few significant reasons.

1. Availability: He is available and willing to take the job.
2. Chemistry: He is capable of augmenting team chemistry. Poor leadership candidates likely wont be respected as leaders by Sutter.
3. Disciple: This flames squad has developed a reputation among officials as a bunch of delinquent whiners. Sutter will not approve of the nonsense. This team needs a tough, demanding coach.
4. Structure: I have no clue what system the Flames playing under Ward. I am confident this will not be the case under Sutter. Structured play will be demanded.
5 Respect: Sutter has won two cups and will demand the respect he is deserved.

While Sutter is far from the best coach, he is the type of coach needed by a team like the Flames. He accepted a tough job, is familiar with the team, will demand discipline, structure and accountability. If the Flames find traction and make the playoffs, Habs players, while shining their golf clubs early, will reflect on the promotion of Ducharme and wish they had played for Sutter instead.

- Jackie Daytona

You can crawl back into your hole anytime.
Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM ET
You can crawl back into your hole anytime.
- Chuckywhip


You must be a Habs fan or very delicate to be so offended by my comment. You seem as fragile as the Flames roster had become under Ward's failed tuelage.

I suppose some may prefer watching loosing hockey, where the roster plays like dandies while being mocked by opponents and dismissed by officials, with the only response being continued players only female dog-fest. I do not approve.

I suppose I must remember how soft some of the younger fans have become. As such, I apologize sweet princess, I did not mean to insult your bubble-wrapped sensibilities.
Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Mar 6 @ 9:23 PM ET
Flames Fans, getting a lot of this in before tonights stressful loss ?

via GIPHY

RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 10:05 PM ET
Flames Fans, getting a lot of this in before tonights stressful loss ?

via GIPHY


- Benny Blanco


Why would I do that when I can have victory sex with your mum later
Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Mar 6 @ 10:11 PM ET
Why would I do that when I can have victory sex with your mum later
- RedC21

Gonna have to dig her up. They have a name for that, necrophilia, no. Prolly what you're used to though.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 10:19 PM ET
Gonna have to dig her up. They have a name for that, necrophilia, no. Prolly what you're used to though.
- Benny Blanco


Well I was going to say your wife but then I thought naw this guy doesn’t have one
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